I actually had tried iOS 11 on it last September and thanks to the ProMotion display, I could see minor stuttering and an awful battery drain on it. Whenever I get that upgrade itch I remember that experience and it goes away. iOS 12 is nice but I am not sure its iOS 10 nice atm
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iOS 12 and planned obsolescence
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I actually had tried iOS 11 on it last September and thanks to the ProMotion display, I could see minor stuttering and an awful battery drain on it. Whenever I get that upgrade itch I remember that experience and it goes away. iOS 12 is nice but I am not sure its iOS 10 nice atm
Most of the complaints on this forum are from people who are too picky and are LOOKING for problems. If an app takes half a second to open, they think it should take a quarter of a second. Stuff like that.
iOS 11 is great.
Or or or... people like you aren't too PICKY about issues and accept every issue thrown at you from Apple.
That quarter second lost adds up over time. The YouTube app was launching in 3-4 seconds on iOS 8. 3 releases later it takes 8 seconds which is significant
Actually, after I updated my iPad 4 to iOS 7 and it completely screwed it up, and after some issues with the iOS 5 update on an iPod Touch 4G, I said I'm never updating any iOS device again. So far - and I don't think that will change, unless there are major changes in Apple's policy - I've kept that promise, and also, instructed family members not to update. So far, they've listened. Every single device in my household barring two iPad 4 and an iPod Touch 5G is on its original version. They all are, of course, working flawlessly.
It's like saying you were forced to go to an event when all that really actually happened is that you simply decided to think about going to it. The obvious silliness just undermines it all, making for a completely moot discussion (and unfortunately not the first, or even the second one like that, for the same type of reasons).
First, if an app takes twice the time to open it is significant. If apps start crashing when they previously didn't it's significant. If battery life drops by 25-50% it's significant. If apps lag whereas before they didn't it's significant.
Second: If I expect a quarter of a second and it's impossible, then I'm delusional. If I actually get that quarter of a second on the device's original version, I'm not delusional. I just want that performance to maintain throughout the device's useful life.
Since it seems to were into counting milliseconds, how much time could one get back into their life they stopped posting on MR? One day abstinence will get you a lifetime of slowness back. Some things are slower and faster between releases which means the time nets to zero.
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There has not been any substantial change on my idevices over the course of time. Not that I notice in day to day normal use.
On my iPad Air 2, everything is slow. I have avoided using it ever since I updated to 11. It cant do a basic function like keep up with my typing speed. Whenever a message pops up and I tap on the notification, there is a white screen for 2 seconds before the message app loads. To me that delay is annoyingSince it seems to were into counting milliseconds, how much time could one get back into their life they stopped posting on MR? One day abstinence will get you a lifetime of slowness back. Some things are slower and faster between releases which means the time nets to zero.
I do not tolerate imperfections. Hence I buy the very best hardware and I expect the best experience for years to come
Battery life lost 3 hours when I updated my iPad 4 to iOS 7. Game Center and the App Store's search function crashed upon launch. Overall performance was slow. You had a flawless update, it's ok. I didn't, and that's what I base my opinion on. That's why my 9.7 Pro is now 3 iOS versions behind.Since it seems to were into counting milliseconds, how much time could one get back into their life they stopped posting on MR? One day abstinence will get you a lifetime of slowness back. Some things are slower and faster between releases which means the time nets to zero.
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There has not been any substantial change on my idevices over the course of time. Not that I notice in day to day normal use.
I base my opinion on 11.4.1b1 with its stellar battery life and performance. No crashing, resprings, smooth as silk. This is what is being said, people’s experiences have been different on different devices through different releases. Don’t mean there is an”planned obsolescence “ strategy.
I never said there was. My experiences with updates were negative, did Apple do it on purpose? Being that my device was near-current, my opinion is a resounding no. That doesn't mean that updates do sometimes decrease performance. And Apple should do better and/or allow downgrading.
On all my idevices on iOS 11 they are operating well. Since nothing is 100% and we are all imperfect and life is imperfect I give iOS 11 a 95%.
What Apple policies are is beyond what we can do, except voice our opinion. Updates also sometimes increase performance such as the JavaScript rewrite in iOS 9.
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Just because nothing is perfect I will give iOS 10 85%. This is because right now though it’s a bug fest.
I think iOS 9 finished screwing up the iPhone 4s, the iPod Touch 5G, and the iPad 3. I don't remember reading it improved performance. I might be mistaken, though. I am certain of the iPod Touch because I saw that myself.
To be honest, I’ve never major issues on any iOS version past x.2. This dates back to iOS 2.
If you set up your phone as new each yearly update, 90% of issues magically never appear.
iCloud Messages, iCloud Photo Library Notes, Apple Music. Pretty easy for most people these days. Or deal with “my battery sucks”. Your choice.
I’d have rather they had said at the September launch:
‘Since iPhone X is one of the biggest ever changes to both the iPhone and to iOS, we’re shipping iPhone X along with iOS 11 and then for our other customers later in the fall.’
Who knows if that would have increased the quality - I expect it would’ve helped them with this though.
Not for me though. My 7 Plus went from 1.5 days battery life to barely a day and none of this helped much except perhaps by half an hour or so. Apple also changed their home button behaviour with iOS 11 which prompted me to get the X as after using the iOS 10,home button, iOS 11 was pretty much unusable for me.
iOS 12 is just at Beta 1. So I would not dismiss it so easily. To be honest, I am actually impressed. For 1st beta, my iPhone 7 Plus is damn stable running for last 3 days. I expect things to get even better. My battery life is at 88% but it is still lasting me for a day with my regular use.
My iPhone 7 is about the same on 11.4 as 10.3.3. No real difference except my iPhone 7 is fully patched. No difference in the home button. I think that is a placebo effect.
Your story is a prime example that people upgrade their phones for reasons of their own. That is you claim you didn’t like the home button response in iOS 11.
Its not the placebo effect. My iPads home button is faster than the iPhone on ios 11. The Air 2 on ios 11 and iPhone 7 have the same response.