iOS 12.x.x Speculation Thread [Merged]

[robert1998]

If Apple releases iOS 12 GM on 12 September for developers, they will also release it for public beta testers on 12th ?

 

[Mlrollin91]

If Apple releases iOS 12 GM on 12 September for developers, they will also release it for public beta testers on 12th ?

No. Public beta testers have never gotten the GM. They have to wait for public release.

Don’t mind me.

 

[AhRiHmAn]

No. Public beta testers have never gotten the GM. They have to wait for public release.

So , if for exemple I have a Developper profile on my phone I will be able to download the GM OTA?
The past years if I remember well I had only PB profile and I downloaded the IPSW

 

[GreyOS]

No. Public beta testers have never gotten the GM. They have to wait for public release.

You sure about that?

Same day as developers for iOS 11: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/12/ios-11-golden-master-developers

Day after developers (but still before public release) for iOS 10: https://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/apple-releases-ios-10-gm-for-public-beta-testers/

 

[Mlrollin91]

You sure about that?

Same day as developers for iOS 11: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/12/ios-11-golden-master-developers

Day after developers (but still before public release) for iOS 10: https://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/apple-releases-ios-10-gm-for-public-beta-testers/

I stand corrected. My apologies. I Wonder what I am thinking of.
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So , if for exemple I have a Developper profile on my phone I will be able to download the GM OTA?
The past years if I remember well I had only PB profile and I downloaded the IPSW

Being that I was incorrect and PB does get GM, then the answer should be yes. It should be available for OTA.

 

[gwhizkids]

I stand corrected. My apologies. I Wonder what I am thinking of.
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Being that I was incorrect and PB does get GM, then the answer should be yes. It should be available for OTA.

I think this was new last year. We were surprised at the time if I recall correctly.

 

[GreyOS]

I stand corrected. My apologies. I Wonder what I am thinking of.

Possibly: no first beta, no IPSWs

I think this was new last year. We were surprised at the time if I recall correctly.

I posted two links, covering iOS 10 and 11. It may have been new to get GM with iOS 10 but a pattern of “no GM > GM day after > GM same day” suggests to me we’re more likely than ever to get it the same day this year.

 

[Blue Hawk]

I wished they would release the GM for the public at the same day. I will not have WiFi for the next weeks. lol

 

[GreyOS]

I wished they would release the GM for the public at the same day. I will not have WiFi for the next weeks. lol

You could install the public beta profile, install the GM and then remove the profile.

 

[bigjnyc]

I'm not one for attacking people's opinions most days.

Lucky for me, I skipped the betas that had the major issues and am really basing my opinion off of the last two. I think it's safe to assume the GM will be fairly similar to what is available now since it seems we're done with betas for this version.

with the exception of the update pop-up the last 2 have been pretty solid, I agree. It looks like they ironed out most bugs. All in all I think its going to be a really good public release version this year.

 

[tosbsas]

Battery still needs fixing. Beta 10 was way better in that área than beta 12

 

[Bornee35]

Today's forecast is 12% chance of "recipitation"

 

[john991]

Today's forecast is 12% chance of "recipitation"

 

[GreyOS]

Today's forecast is 12% chance of "recipitation"

Hmm not so sure

 

[Mr$tone]

I’m happy with the latest beta and mostly want the GM so all the beta stuff gets cleaned out... because it will (without full reinstall), will it?

 

[Bornee35]

I’m happy with the latest beta and mostly want the GM so all the beta stuff gets cleaned out... because it will (without full reinstall), will it?

it's my understanding that all diagnostic logs, along with the assistant app get removed.

 

[one more]

I’m happy with the latest beta and mostly want the GM so all the beta stuff gets cleaned out... because it will (without full reinstall), will it?

If you keep the beta profile installed you will still get iOS 12.1 beta as soon as it is seeded, with the same beta “extras”.

If you want to leave the beta track altogether, you can just remove the beta profile once iOS 12 is released for everybody and then do a clean install via restore (with iTunes). This is what I did after the previous big beta cycles (iOS 10 and 11). Works really well and then you can do OTA updates for 12.1, 12.2, etc.

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

If the GM still has messed up activity badge tracking and the default sounds/vibrations for mail being wrong under notifications I’ll be disappointed.

So no, in my opinion it really isn’t good enough to be GM.

Fixed that for ya. I couldn't care less about activity badge tracking and the default Mail app has always been garbage.

 

[Sciomar]

it's my understanding that all diagnostic logs, along with the assistant app get removed.

My assistant app remained from last beta, I had removed the profile and did a complete reinstall but it somehow stayed.

 

[Blue Hawk]

If you keep the beta profile installed you will still get iOS 12.1 beta as soon as it is seeded, with the same beta “extras”.

If you want to leave the beta track altogether, you can just remove the beta profile once iOS 12 is released for everybody and then do a clean install via restore (with iTunes). This is what I did after the previous big beta cycles (iOS 10 and 11). Works really well and then you can do OTA updates for 12.1, 12.2, etc.

Do I really have to restore via iTunes?

 

[Nikiforidis]

My assistant app remained from last beta, I had removed the profile and did a complete reinstall but it somehow stayed.

Removing the beta profile from your device won't remove the feedback app. You have to log in to apple's developer beta program website and click "leave program".

 

[one more]

Do I really have to restore via iTunes?

This is probably the cleanest way. If you just remove the beta profile, you will be installing the general public releases on top of what you already had on your device, which is probably an iOS 12 beta? Flashing it with iTunes just gives us an extra “comfort” of having a totally clean iOS installation, so it runs as well as it possibly can on any supported device.

If you totally wipe your device, it will still ask you to connect to iTunes, which will then offer you to set it up as new or restore from an existing iTunes/iCloud backup. Same for going through a DFU mode. The only exception I can think of is when you buy a new device already running the iOS 12 and then you can just populate it from your iCloud backup. This can take a while, though, depending on the amount of data that you need to transfer and your internet speed.
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Removing the beta profile from your device won't remove the feedback app. You have to log in to apple's developer beta program website and click "leave program".

Don’t remember having to leave the beta program by logging into any websites last year, but I was on a public beta, so perhaps it is different. As soon as I deleted the beta profile and restarted the device the feedback app was gone.

 

[Nikiforidis]

[QUOTE="Don’t remember having to leave the beta program by logging into any websites last year, but I was on a public beta, so perhaps it is different. As soon as I deleted the beta profile and restarted the device the feedback app was gone.[/QUOTE]

I am not sure if there is s second way or a faster way but last year I was trying to get rid of the feedback app by deleting the beta profile restarting etc and nada the app was still there. I made a small research and found that you have to "unlink" your Apple ID from the beta program for the feedback app to go away. I tried it and it worked.

The website is this one: https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

 

[one more]

I am not sure if there is s second way or a faster way but last year I was trying to get rid of the feedback app by deleting the beta profile restarting etc and nada the app was still there. I made a small research and found that you have to "unlink" your Apple ID from the beta program for the feedback app to go away. I tried it and it worked.

The website is this one: https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

That Apple website tells us to uninstall the beta profile:

https://beta.apple.com/sp/en/betaprogram/unenroll

At the bottom it also explains how to leave the beta program altogether and what happens then (no emails about new betas and no feedback via the app). However, I am sure I did not leave the beta program last year, just simply removed the beta profile and was good to go.

Either way, we’ll find out how it all works in a few weeks from now.

 

[Blue Hawk]

However... In November i will get my iPhone XS Plus/Max or however the name will be. Does the iCloud backup only has the installed app and it’s files or also the saved analytic data’s?