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App reloads just started again. RAM management remains a huge problem on iOS 13

Lets wait for the .1 update to break more things on iOS 13

What i simply cannot understand is ... why does Apple not fix existing bugs but continue to add new features in iOS 13

With the introduction of every version of iOS , it takes them 12 months to iron out all the bugs only to introduce new bugs in the next version of iOS

iOS is a renamed version of Windows.
Hmm weird. My ram management is back to 12.4.1 levels on my iPhone 7. No problem here. If anything it’s holding a few more apps in memory than before. Not sure what’s going on with your phone.
 
Hmm weird. My ram management is back to 12.4.1 levels on my iPhone 7. No problem here. If anything it’s holding a few more apps in memory than before. Not sure what’s going on with your phone.

I’m using a iPhone XS which has double your ram.
App reloads
 
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Since 13.3, the Home controls in Control Center connect very inconsistently and can only be restored with a reset. The Home app connects just fine. Something's up with CC. This is not a critical bug but it's annoying and shouldn't be happening. Anyone else notice this?
 
Since 13.3, the Home controls in Control Center connect very inconsistently and can only be restored with a reset. The Home app connects just fine. Something's up with CC. This is not a critical bug but it's annoying and shouldn't be happening. Anyone else notice this?

I know this doesn’t help you but I use those controls quite often and they are absolutely fine on mine and connect pretty much instantaneously.
 
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Regular shut down/restart does nothing.

Hard/forced reboot seems to have been disabled with 13.3.

Following the steps of forced reboot for the iPhone 8 no longer works.

Pressing the volume up, release, volume down, release, hold power, no longer does a forced reboot. All it does now is bring up the "Slide to power down" option.

You have to hold the power button until the Apple logo appears. I will take upwards of 30 seconds.
 
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I'm still having weird issues on iPadOS 13.3 with battery life on my 11" iPad Pro. This has been a problem for the last two or three releases. 13.3 made it a tad better, but I'm still frustrated.

Last night I hard rebooted it and put it on my desk at 35% battery before going to bed. After 7 hours in standby, it went from 35% to 30%. Not too bad--I can live with that. Still worse than it used to be pre-iOS 13, but not terrible.

But then from 6 am to 8 am, it went down to 25%. So 5% battery drain in 7 hours of standby, and then another 5% drain in 2 more hours of standby. I just looked again, and from 8 am to 11 am it's drained another 3%. In other words, 10% of standby drain every 12 hours, 20% on average every 24 hours. My iPad would only stay on for 4 days total on standby before the battery died.

A couple of weeks ago, I was so frustrated with this behavior that I did a DFU restore without copying from backup, so this is fresh install of the OS. Even after that, I can still never tell when the standby drain is going to go crazy.

This issue corresponded with an iPadOS update (I forget which exact version of 13.2 it was that this started happening) so I know it's not hardware related. And in the battery menu, it never shows anything running in the background, other than about 1 minute per hour for Siri, and that doesn't even show up in every hour.

I guess it's just annoying because back in the day, iPads would hardly drain at all while not in use. That's definitely not been the case on the Pro models for me, no matter what I try, and it's been especially bad on iPadOS 13. Incidentally, I'm not having this issue at all on my iPhone 11 Pro Max.
 
After running 13.3 PR for a couple of days now, aside from the various bugs which have plagued us, this is the general feeling I get from using this version:

XS Max - feels like the system is sluggish when launching apps.
IPP 11 - Battery life has degraded from 13.2.3, especially with video.
IPP 12.9 G2 - When watching YouTube, Netflix, Prime Video, or Spectrum TV, the battery drains faster.

RAM management is an issue across all devices especially with saved (cached) data like previously viewed shows or documents; these are just gone when you open the app.

Spellcheck on all hase gone whacked. Even more than before.

Not seeing any positive benefit in my devices from previous release or previous beta.
More to come.
 
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I know this doesn’t help you but I use those controls quite often and they are absolutely fine on mine and connect pretty much instantaneously.

Thanks! I've gotten used to the unusually random performance of 13. That's good/bad news. Probably means it's something to do with how my phone is set up or what I'm running, not a bug, which means it may not get fixed...
 
So many posts to sift through but anyone else experiencing lag when swiping to go home from an app? Like the app hangs for a sec and then you’re back on the home screen? I just got the 11 Pro Max on Tuesday and it upgraded to iOS 13.3 right away, so I’m not sure if it’s iOS or the new phone (I restored from a backup).
 
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I understand, setting up as new is a pain. If you have a Mac you can download coconutBattery. It will give you all necessary info about the battery in an iPhone, iPad or Mac

I don’t have a Mac, but it shouldn’t matter as Apple doesn’t throttle iPads like they do iPhones because of the larger battery.

My Air 2 seems better today. It’s mostly usable. It still gets “tired” from time to time and starts stuttering all over the place, but it’s not as bad as it was yesterday.

Maybe it was doing more indexing or something the other day. I’m not sure why the higher priority isn’t given to the currently running app though. Backing tasks shouldn’t degrade performance. I feel that Apple doesn’t really care about performance optimization anymore since the iPhone 11 CPU is so fast.
 
Honest question: I'm amazed by the dramatically different experiences people are getting with iOS 13. I know that it's clearly a deeply flawed version since 12, these reports can't be ignored. After staying with 12, I finally installed 13.3 on my 7 Plus, two days ago (made preps to restore to 12 if need be). It's been completely smooth and I can't reproduce any of the (many) issues people are reporting.

This is nothing new, of course, with iOS releases, but I'm wondering what are the variables and factors that make the experience so different for so many people?
 
(made preps to restore to 12 if need be). It's been completely smooth and I can't reproduce any of the (many) issues people are reporting.

Isn’t there a fundamental incompatibility with downgrading from iOS 13 to 12 even if you have saved your hashes/blobs?

In terms of problems: you have exchange email accounts? Do you use smart invert in Safari or elsewhere?
 
The Mail app still freezes for few seconds when opened by clicking on the notifications.
I have reported again.

The freeze happened only when Mail is not in memory. If Mail has been opened before (and still suspended in memory) then it doesn't freeze.
 
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I can’t seem to find any post but is anyone safari working fine in 13.3? It still constantly crashes on my end, especially if you open a video, minimize it and open another tab. Third Party apps that uses background noises also frequently crashes as well.
 
Since updating to IOS 13.3 on my iPhone 11 Pro, I have noticed when I get missed calls, I receive the badge Count Indicator and the message notification of voice mail from the person I had the missed call but in my call log it's empty doesn't show in red the contact name that I had the missed call from, it's only started after updating to IOS 13.3 and only happens intermittent. Anyone else experiencing this same issue, it's unbelievable how Apple claim to have fixed things where my native mail app is still inconsistent, now the missed call issue, what a mess IOS 13 is and the funny thing is we are up to IOS 13.3 and still many bugs havnt yet to be fixed, it sort of ruined the attention of the new iPhone 11 Pro, which is the best iPhone made,
 
Honest question: I'm amazed by the dramatically different experiences people are getting with iOS 13. I know that it's clearly a deeply flawed version since 12, these reports can't be ignored. After staying with 12, I finally installed 13.3 on my 7 Plus, two days ago (made preps to restore to 12 if need be). It's been completely smooth and I can't reproduce any of the (many) issues people are reporting.

This is nothing new, of course, with iOS releases, but I'm wondering what are the variables and factors that make the experience so different for so many people?

Try this to understand.
Est of 189 million iPhones in active use in the US.
Est of 80 million iPads in active use in the US.
Est of 2-3 million apps in the App Store.
Est of 1 billion plus app downloads from the App Store
Infinite number of possible combinations of apps vs iPhone installations.
Unknown number of iPhones that have been jail broken
Unknown number of outside mail, cloud and other servers connected to by those iPhones and by those apps on an unknown number of carriers and or wifi systems.
Unknown number of people bitching about "bugs" when in fact it's "features" they don't like.
Unknown number of people that simply don't know how to properly use what they have.

Now try to put together the total possible combinations of all these factors. Probably something like ∞ raised to the ∞ level.
 
App reloads are worse than 13.2.3 again. Apollo closes after leaving phone alone for a few minutes, same with Safari reloading tabs. This is with an iPhone XR.
 
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I fully agree on the full phone reset. One of the main reasons I put out the extra money for apple products is because its so easy to restore and ready to go it if something goes wrong. Now every support ticket you file with apple requires you to start from new. You might as well take a half day off from work if you have as much setup as i have. Apple can $afford$ to test and make proper OS releases. Tech companies always try to see how far they can go with beta “final” OS releases and rely on software patches. When can we go back new products that work out great of the box?
Yeah, I am in the same boat with you as well. But, the thing is they couldn’t do any better (look how they messed up 13.x version since earliest release). It depends on us (me in my case), are we going to accept this and suffer every day with non-functional phone or spend 2-4 hours during weekend to “fix” this on our side and have well functional phone afterwards. This is last resort, for sure.
 
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