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cyb3rdud3

macrumors 601
Jun 22, 2014
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I have no such issues at all with Mail. But I only use the IMAP protocol. Is this perhaps protocol-specific as some of it sounds like server issues.
 

cyb3rdud3

macrumors 601
Jun 22, 2014
4,112
2,799
UK
Agree mail app is a mess. My Gmail app works perfect though.
I don't like in GMail app how it mixes mail from different accounts despite being in a different context. Very bad 'feature' in my opinion.

Anyway, I'm not seeing these issues that have been described at all. Well, where people actually describe the issue nobody can do anything useful with its a mess, or its garbage etc.
 

tarsins

macrumors 65816
Sep 15, 2009
1,197
859
Wales
Weird. I have Gmail, 2 x IMAP and Exchange accounts on the Mail App on all my devices and the only problem I see is a notification delay between the sound and the banner and that's on Catalina.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,392
19,461
I don't like in GMail app how it mixes mail from different accounts despite being in a different context. Very bad 'feature' in my opinion.
Does Gmail not allow you to go to each account separately (been a while since I used multiple accounts in the Gmail app)?
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How do you even supply feedback for the Mail app? It's not listed as an iOS app, so I just sent it via iphone bug reporting, which is probably wrong.
You can also use http://feedbackassistant.apple.com/new-form-response
 
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groovypants

macrumors newbie
Oct 21, 2019
18
23
This is a great idea - I have been tracking Exchange (EAS) / native Mail on iOS 13.x and so far have compiled the following table below.

Have found some workarounds via online searching and self troubleshooting.

Would be great if anyone can suggest any other workarounds or inside information on bug fixes in future releases.

If anyone works in the field of MDM / EMM - would even be more appreciative if you can share any insights or odd behaviors with Mail in iOS 13.x ?


IssueBehaviorResolution \ WorkaroundStatus
Calendar Invite Not ResponsiveUsers may observe that tapping on calendar invitations/updates in the native Mail app does nothing. The attachment may say "Unavailable" under the filename. At this time the cause of the issue is unknown, however it appears to only occur on iOS 13.0 - 13.1 devices.


Users can work around the issue by accepting EAS calendar invitations/updates in the Calendar app rather than the native Mail app.
Fixed in iOS 13.2 Beta 2?
If you see the Hello screen repeatedly after updating to iOS 13If, after you update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to iOS 13, you can't use your iOS device because it repeatedly sends you back to the Hello screen, looping continuosly.Remove the SIM card from your device.
Press and hold either the Home button—if your device has one—or the Side button, until a menu appears from the bottom of the screen.
Tap More Wi-Fi Settings.
Tap the Info button to the right of the Wi-Fi network that your device is connected to.
Tap Forget this network, then tap Forget.
Follow the steps to start using your device.
When you're finished with the steps above, rejoin your Wi-Fi network:

Go to Settings > Wi-Fi.
Tap the network you want to join and enter the password, if required.
Slight delay in correlation between Push notification and Inbox loading in native MailiOS 13.1 devices receive a notification when a message arrives, (push on and apparently working) , but when they want to read the message when launching the Inbox via Mail, it has to be downloaded first. On 13.0 or lower devices they have the message already downloaded. (as it should be) - therefore, there is a slight delay. This does not occur on all devices and appears to be intermittentNone at this stage.Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Unable to save Drafts in native Mail appUsers are not able to save emails to their Drafts folder. Either the Drafts folder is not visible or saving emails results to nothing.First, if the device has multiple email sync accounts enabled (GMAIL, etc), please go to Settings> Mail> Default Account and ensure the corporate EAS account is selected. Then follow these steps:

• Open the Photo app
• Select any photo
• Tap the small icon on bottom left corner that forwards your photo to another app
• Select the Mail app to attach the photo to a new email
• Do not send the email, just tap on Cancel instead
• The prompt will come up, tap on Save Draft
• Then kill the Mail app
• Re-launch the Mail app
• Draft folder should be there and saving them should be operational again.

This should be a once off process - even after a power cycle, the workaround fixes the bug permanently.
Opening mime-attachments in MailUsers are not able to open email attachments in Mail. Instead, they are prompted to forwarded the attachment into another appNone at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 2?
Duplicate Sent Items EntriesUser sends an email from their iOS 13 device. The email then appears in duplicate entries in their native Mail iOS 13 Sent folder.Read one of the duplicate entries and upon going back to the Sent folder, only a single entry is visible.
Inbox does not load new emailsEmails do not load into the inbox for an extended amount of timeUser must kill Mail app and then re-launch it
Sensitivity of Emails are not keptWhen replying to an email with Sensitivity status marked, the replied email does not retain's its status. The email is reverted back to "Normal"None at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Search in Mail not working correctlySearching for Email by Sender does not return results or only returns partial results.When typing the name of the sender in the search box, Under people, don’t select the Sender but rather the option below that that offers “Sender contains:xxxx”
No notification or badge when a new email arrivesEmails are downloaded into the inbox but there are no push notifications or badges displayed on the locked screen.None at this stage. Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Email does not contain original text when forwarding or replying itEmails are truncated when they are forwarded or replied to.None at this stage.
Deletion of Email re-appearsWhen deleting an email on the device, the message re-appears. Only upon the second deletion of the email, the deletion is properly actionedDelete the email again upon re-appearing
 

dwr130

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 11, 2019
15
9
This is a great idea - I have been tracking Exchange (EAS) / native Mail on iOS 13.x and so far have compiled the following table below.

Have found some workarounds via online searching and self troubleshooting.

Would be great if anyone can suggest any other workarounds or inside information on bug fixes in future releases.

If anyone works in the field of MDM / EMM - would even be more appreciative if you can share any insights or odd behaviors with Mail in iOS 13.x ?


IssueBehaviorResolution \ WorkaroundStatus
Calendar Invite Not ResponsiveUsers may observe that tapping on calendar invitations/updates in the native Mail app does nothing. The attachment may say "Unavailable" under the filename. At this time the cause of the issue is unknown, however it appears to only occur on iOS 13.0 - 13.1 devices.

Users can work around the issue by accepting EAS calendar invitations/updates in the Calendar app rather than the native Mail app.
Fixed in iOS 13.2 Beta 2?
If you see the Hello screen repeatedly after updating to iOS 13If, after you update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to iOS 13, you can't use your iOS device because it repeatedly sends you back to the Hello screen, looping continuosly.Remove the SIM card from your device.
Press and hold either the Home button—if your device has one—or the Side button, until a menu appears from the bottom of the screen.
Tap More Wi-Fi Settings.
Tap the Info button to the right of the Wi-Fi network that your device is connected to.
Tap Forget this network, then tap Forget.
Follow the steps to start using your device.
When you're finished with the steps above, rejoin your Wi-Fi network:

Go to Settings > Wi-Fi.
Tap the network you want to join and enter the password, if required.
Slight delay in correlation between Push notification and Inbox loading in native MailiOS 13.1 devices receive a notification when a message arrives, (push on and apparently working) , but when they want to read the message when launching the Inbox via Mail, it has to be downloaded first. On 13.0 or lower devices they have the message already downloaded. (as it should be) - therefore, there is a slight delay. This does not occur on all devices and appears to be intermittentNone at this stage.Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Unable to save Drafts in native Mail appUsers are not able to save emails to their Drafts folder. Either the Drafts folder is not visible or saving emails results to nothing.First, if the device has multiple email sync accounts enabled (GMAIL, etc), please go to Settings> Mail> Default Account and ensure the corporate EAS account is selected. Then follow these steps:

• Open the Photo app
• Select any photo
• Tap the small icon on bottom left corner that forwards your photo to another app
• Select the Mail app to attach the photo to a new email
• Do not send the email, just tap on Cancel instead
• The prompt will come up, tap on Save Draft
• Then kill the Mail app
• Re-launch the Mail app
• Draft folder should be there and saving them should be operational again.

This should be a once off process - even after a power cycle, the workaround fixes the bug permanently.
Opening mime-attachments in MailUsers are not able to open email attachments in Mail. Instead, they are prompted to forwarded the attachment into another appNone at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 2?
Duplicate Sent Items EntriesUser sends an email from their iOS 13 device. The email then appears in duplicate entries in their native Mail iOS 13 Sent folder.Read one of the duplicate entries and upon going back to the Sent folder, only a single entry is visible.
Inbox does not load new emailsEmails do not load into the inbox for an extended amount of timeUser must kill Mail app and then re-launch it
Sensitivity of Emails are not keptWhen replying to an email with Sensitivity status marked, the replied email does not retain's its status. The email is reverted back to "Normal"None at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Search in Mail not working correctlySearching for Email by Sender does not return results or only returns partial results.When typing the name of the sender in the search box, Under people, don’t select the Sender but rather the option below that that offers “Sender contains:xxxx”
No notification or badge when a new email arrivesEmails are downloaded into the inbox but there are no push notifications or badges displayed on the locked screen.None at this stage.Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Email does not contain original text when forwarding or replying itEmails are truncated when they are forwarded or replied to.None at this stage.
Deletion of Email re-appearsWhen deleting an email on the device, the message re-appears. Only upon the second deletion of the email, the deletion is properly actionedDelete the email again upon re-appearing
This is fantastic, thank you for putting this together!!
 
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AnthroMatt

macrumors 6502a
Jun 8, 2011
773
784
Redlands, CA
Thank goodness for Outlook’s notifications or I’d never known anyone has emailed me since about 2:30pm today when Mail stopped working yet again
 

StuBFrost

macrumors regular
Apr 1, 2016
146
71
Manchester, England
I’ve given up on the mall app and moved to outlook after missing several emails yesterday due to lack of notifications working properly and also not notifying my Apple Watch.
 

newellj

macrumors G3
Oct 15, 2014
8,154
3,047
East of Eden
This is a great idea - I have been tracking Exchange (EAS) / native Mail on iOS 13.x and so far have compiled the following table below.

Have found some workarounds via online searching and self troubleshooting.

Would be great if anyone can suggest any other workarounds or inside information on bug fixes in future releases.

If anyone works in the field of MDM / EMM - would even be more appreciative if you can share any insights or odd behaviors with Mail in iOS 13.x ?


IssueBehaviorResolution \ WorkaroundStatus
Calendar Invite Not ResponsiveUsers may observe that tapping on calendar invitations/updates in the native Mail app does nothing. The attachment may say "Unavailable" under the filename. At this time the cause of the issue is unknown, however it appears to only occur on iOS 13.0 - 13.1 devices.

Users can work around the issue by accepting EAS calendar invitations/updates in the Calendar app rather than the native Mail app.
Fixed in iOS 13.2 Beta 2?
If you see the Hello screen repeatedly after updating to iOS 13If, after you update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to iOS 13, you can't use your iOS device because it repeatedly sends you back to the Hello screen, looping continuosly.Remove the SIM card from your device.
Press and hold either the Home button—if your device has one—or the Side button, until a menu appears from the bottom of the screen.
Tap More Wi-Fi Settings.
Tap the Info button to the right of the Wi-Fi network that your device is connected to.
Tap Forget this network, then tap Forget.
Follow the steps to start using your device.
When you're finished with the steps above, rejoin your Wi-Fi network:

Go to Settings > Wi-Fi.
Tap the network you want to join and enter the password, if required.
Slight delay in correlation between Push notification and Inbox loading in native MailiOS 13.1 devices receive a notification when a message arrives, (push on and apparently working) , but when they want to read the message when launching the Inbox via Mail, it has to be downloaded first. On 13.0 or lower devices they have the message already downloaded. (as it should be) - therefore, there is a slight delay. This does not occur on all devices and appears to be intermittentNone at this stage.Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Unable to save Drafts in native Mail appUsers are not able to save emails to their Drafts folder. Either the Drafts folder is not visible or saving emails results to nothing.First, if the device has multiple email sync accounts enabled (GMAIL, etc), please go to Settings> Mail> Default Account and ensure the corporate EAS account is selected. Then follow these steps:

• Open the Photo app
• Select any photo
• Tap the small icon on bottom left corner that forwards your photo to another app
• Select the Mail app to attach the photo to a new email
• Do not send the email, just tap on Cancel instead
• The prompt will come up, tap on Save Draft
• Then kill the Mail app
• Re-launch the Mail app
• Draft folder should be there and saving them should be operational again.

This should be a once off process - even after a power cycle, the workaround fixes the bug permanently.
Opening mime-attachments in MailUsers are not able to open email attachments in Mail. Instead, they are prompted to forwarded the attachment into another appNone at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 2?
Duplicate Sent Items EntriesUser sends an email from their iOS 13 device. The email then appears in duplicate entries in their native Mail iOS 13 Sent folder.Read one of the duplicate entries and upon going back to the Sent folder, only a single entry is visible.
Inbox does not load new emailsEmails do not load into the inbox for an extended amount of timeUser must kill Mail app and then re-launch it
Sensitivity of Emails are not keptWhen replying to an email with Sensitivity status marked, the replied email does not retain's its status. The email is reverted back to "Normal"None at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Search in Mail not working correctlySearching for Email by Sender does not return results or only returns partial results.When typing the name of the sender in the search box, Under people, don’t select the Sender but rather the option below that that offers “Sender contains:xxxx”
No notification or badge when a new email arrivesEmails are downloaded into the inbox but there are no push notifications or badges displayed on the locked screen.None at this stage.Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Email does not contain original text when forwarding or replying itEmails are truncated when they are forwarded or replied to.None at this stage.
Deletion of Email re-appearsWhen deleting an email on the device, the message re-appears. Only upon the second deletion of the email, the deletion is properly actionedDelete the email again upon re-appearing

Hat's off to you for that - many thanks for your work. Mail continues to be my biggest frustration with 13.
 

Cinimod1000

macrumors 6502
Dec 7, 2016
302
322
Excellent compilation of issues. Have been having almost all these problems since 13b1..... I did read through the entire thread for 13.2 b3(x) and it seems people are having more issues with the native mail app (anecdotally) than with 13.1.3....... Maybe 13.2 bx was forked earlier and does not yet contain any new mail fixes???
Come on, Apple. This is a release version, and having these types of issues at this point in time defies logic - for a company that prides itself in the quality of product sold.....


This is a great idea - I have been tracking Exchange (EAS) / native Mail on iOS 13.x and so far have compiled the following table below.

Have found some workarounds via online searching and self troubleshooting.

Would be great if anyone can suggest any other workarounds or inside information on bug fixes in future releases.

If anyone works in the field of MDM / EMM - would even be more appreciative if you can share any insights or odd behaviors with Mail in iOS 13.x ?


IssueBehaviorResolution \ WorkaroundStatus
Calendar Invite Not ResponsiveUsers may observe that tapping on calendar invitations/updates in the native Mail app does nothing. The attachment may say "Unavailable" under the filename. At this time the cause of the issue is unknown, however it appears to only occur on iOS 13.0 - 13.1 devices.

Users can work around the issue by accepting EAS calendar invitations/updates in the Calendar app rather than the native Mail app.
Fixed in iOS 13.2 Beta 2?
If you see the Hello screen repeatedly after updating to iOS 13If, after you update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to iOS 13, you can't use your iOS device because it repeatedly sends you back to the Hello screen, looping continuosly.Remove the SIM card from your device.
Press and hold either the Home button—if your device has one—or the Side button, until a menu appears from the bottom of the screen.
Tap More Wi-Fi Settings.
Tap the Info button to the right of the Wi-Fi network that your device is connected to.
Tap Forget this network, then tap Forget.
Follow the steps to start using your device.
When you're finished with the steps above, rejoin your Wi-Fi network:

Go to Settings > Wi-Fi.
Tap the network you want to join and enter the password, if required.
Slight delay in correlation between Push notification and Inbox loading in native MailiOS 13.1 devices receive a notification when a message arrives, (push on and apparently working) , but when they want to read the message when launching the Inbox via Mail, it has to be downloaded first. On 13.0 or lower devices they have the message already downloaded. (as it should be) - therefore, there is a slight delay. This does not occur on all devices and appears to be intermittentNone at this stage.Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Unable to save Drafts in native Mail appUsers are not able to save emails to their Drafts folder. Either the Drafts folder is not visible or saving emails results to nothing.First, if the device has multiple email sync accounts enabled (GMAIL, etc), please go to Settings> Mail> Default Account and ensure the corporate EAS account is selected. Then follow these steps:

• Open the Photo app
• Select any photo
• Tap the small icon on bottom left corner that forwards your photo to another app
• Select the Mail app to attach the photo to a new email
• Do not send the email, just tap on Cancel instead
• The prompt will come up, tap on Save Draft
• Then kill the Mail app
• Re-launch the Mail app
• Draft folder should be there and saving them should be operational again.

This should be a once off process - even after a power cycle, the workaround fixes the bug permanently.
Opening mime-attachments in MailUsers are not able to open email attachments in Mail. Instead, they are prompted to forwarded the attachment into another appNone at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 2?
Duplicate Sent Items EntriesUser sends an email from their iOS 13 device. The email then appears in duplicate entries in their native Mail iOS 13 Sent folder.Read one of the duplicate entries and upon going back to the Sent folder, only a single entry is visible.
Inbox does not load new emailsEmails do not load into the inbox for an extended amount of timeUser must kill Mail app and then re-launch it
Sensitivity of Emails are not keptWhen replying to an email with Sensitivity status marked, the replied email does not retain's its status. The email is reverted back to "Normal"None at this stageFixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Search in Mail not working correctlySearching for Email by Sender does not return results or only returns partial results.When typing the name of the sender in the search box, Under people, don’t select the Sender but rather the option below that that offers “Sender contains:xxxx”
No notification or badge when a new email arrivesEmails are downloaded into the inbox but there are no push notifications or badges displayed on the locked screen.None at this stage.Fixed in iOS 13.2 beta 3?
Email does not contain original text when forwarding or replying itEmails are truncated when they are forwarded or replied to.None at this stage.
Deletion of Email re-appearsWhen deleting an email on the device, the message re-appears. Only upon the second deletion of the email, the deletion is properly actionedDelete the email again upon re-appearing
 
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groovypants

macrumors newbie
Oct 21, 2019
18
23
Strange thing is that some reported issues that I could not replicate in earlier iOS 13 versions - I can now on 13.2 beta 3 - and vice versa. The "double delete" issue I've never experienced until yesterday.

I have to admit Apple - the quality control is pretty bad - but when you have the entire world as your pilot users, you could save a decent dime! :)

I should mention that these issues are shared across different on-prem Exchange environments - 2010 and 2013 in particular - and some reports on 2016.

While it could be tempting to point the finger at Exchange - it is just too evident that native Mail 13.x is too buggy. Some of these convoluted workarounds are quite amusing as well lol.
 
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groovypants

macrumors newbie
Oct 21, 2019
18
23
7) when forwarding a message the original message gets cut off


I am able to re-produce the truncations of emails being forwarded or replying to. How this for a strange workaround - can you test if it does the trick for your device?

Select the email you want to forward
Then tap and hold on the body to bring up the sub text edit menu
Tap "Select All" (ensure all text is visually higlighted)
Proceed to forward the email
 

WannaGoMac

macrumors 68030
Feb 11, 2007
2,751
4,065
Funny thing is these bugs forced me to gmail app. More I use it the more I am coming to like it over mail app.
 

slooksterPSV

macrumors 68040
Apr 17, 2004
3,545
309
Nowheresville
Odd the only weird issues I’ll hit is with duplicate emails or a newer email appearing below an older email. E.g.:

4:54pm
7:00pm
4:21pm
3:58pm

I have submitted feedback during the beta and Apple fixed it once.
 

ZEEN0j

macrumors 68000
Sep 29, 2014
1,569
721
Can’t even move up and down the list with the keyboard. I’ve even had the app crash trying to navigate. Used spark for a couple of years before moving back to the native mail app because some nice native features. Thinking about moving back to spark
 

dwr130

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 11, 2019
15
9
When I push delete within a message, the current message reappears on screen, still unread.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,392
19,461
Funny thing is these bugs forced me to gmail app. More I use it the more I am coming to like it over mail app.
I'm more or less in the same boat. I used to really prefer the native app over the Gmail app, and now it's almost the other way around.
 

minimo3

macrumors 6502a
Oct 18, 2010
832
1,030
F5BEDDF4-3CB1-4E08-9FDE-7FBF7C3B2A87.png

yup the native mail app is messed up alright. It spent hours doing something in the background last night while I was asleep. When I woke up this morning there were just 3 new mails. Who knows what it’s up to. It’s been churning in the background during work hours too. No wonder my battery life was shot today.
 

voidfire

macrumors newbie
Oct 14, 2018
17
7
My mail app seems okay, but the bottom that just have 2 icon on the right side (not getting the center of it) and the animation when it archived, it’s not the style of Apple’s design.
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