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newellj

macrumors G3
Oct 15, 2014
8,154
3,047
East of Eden
OK - I'm getting genuinely b!tchy about all the things that are broken in 13, especially the native Mail app - considering that we are now on the fourth beta of 13.2. The native Mail app is the only mail client that our MDM is configured to work with, and now not only am I not getting notifications and having a variety of issues managing emails that arrive on my iPhone 11 PM, it has started not delivering emails at all. This is a total fail. So, in the spirit of this thread, my speculation now is that Apple may never fix 13 - at least not until 14.

I spent the day trying to find a used XS Max that hasn't been updated to 13 within a reasonable distance - no luck. Tomorrow, I'm going to a local BestBuy that still has several XS Max iPhones in inventory and I'm going to buy the one with the highest serial/latest production date, figuring that it will have a late version of 12 installed. (I'm thinking that it ought to be impossible for a XS Max that's new in a sealed box to have 13 on it - but if I'm wrong I'll return it and pay the restocking fee and try again.) I don't know whether I'll sell this 11PM or put it in a box. I love the phone but it's an unreliable mess that I can't risk for business use. Actually not ever delivering emails was really the last straw.
 

pacpac2017

macrumors member
Sep 27, 2017
41
20
OK - I'm getting genuinely b!tchy about all the things that are broken in 13, especially the native Mail app - considering that we are now on the fourth beta of 13.2. The native Mail app is the only mail client that our MDM is configured to work with, and now not only am I not getting notifications and having a variety of issues managing emails that arrive on my iPhone 11 PM, it has started not delivering emails at all. This is a total fail. So, in the spirit of this thread, my speculation now is that Apple may never fix 13 - at least not until 14.

I spent the day trying to find a used XS Max that hasn't been updated to 13 within a reasonable distance - no luck. Tomorrow, I'm going to a local BestBuy that still has several XS Max iPhones in inventory and I'm going to buy the one with the highest serial/latest production date, figuring that it will have a late version of 12 installed. (I'm thinking that it ought to be impossible for a XS Max that's new in a sealed box to have 13 on it - but if I'm wrong I'll return it and pay the restocking fee and try again.) I don't know whether I'll sell this 11PM or put it in a box. I love the phone but it's an unreliable mess that I can't risk for business use. Actually not ever delivering emails was really the last straw.

I have had issues on my XS on 13, now on 13.1.3 (ever since 12.4.1) regarding e-mails (two Exchange accounts, Office 365) not downloading in the background, both using the stock mail app and Outlook. I am now using Outlook on my XS and Macbook and Mac mini, both on Catalina.

In Outlook (the stock mail app might have similar settings) on both the Macbook and Mac mini, I went to Outlook - Preferences - Email - Reading, then under 'Mark emails as read', ticked 'Only when opened in separate window', kept the two other alternatives unchecked. Restartet Outlook on the desktops and on the XS.

For the last 1-2 days e-mails coming in on my XS are notified perfectly fine, downloaded in the background, i.e. no delay/issues in e-mail flow. Also, all is fine on both the Macbook and Mac mini. Hoping it will last....

In case you are running Outlook on a PC, you might try the same there. If no other Outlook connecting to your mail accounts, I have no suggestion.
 

uandme72

macrumors 68020
Mar 2, 2015
2,077
684
OK - I'm getting genuinely b!tchy about all the things that are broken in 13, especially the native Mail app - considering that we are now on the fourth beta of 13.2. The native Mail app is the only mail client that our MDM is configured to work with, and now not only am I not getting notifications and having a variety of issues managing emails that arrive on my iPhone 11 PM, it has started not delivering emails at all. This is a total fail. So, in the spirit of this thread, my speculation now is that Apple may never fix 13 - at least not until 14.

I spent the day trying to find a used XS Max that hasn't been updated to 13 within a reasonable distance - no luck. Tomorrow, I'm going to a local BestBuy that still has several XS Max iPhones in inventory and I'm going to buy the one with the highest serial/latest production date, figuring that it will have a late version of 12 installed. (I'm thinking that it ought to be impossible for a XS Max that's new in a sealed box to have 13 on it - but if I'm wrong I'll return it and pay the restocking fee and try again.) I don't know whether I'll sell this 11PM or put it in a box. I love the phone but it's an unreliable mess that I can't risk for business use. Actually not ever delivering emails was really the last straw.
You will not get any phone now which has 12 loaded. I don’t think any device packed 3 months ago will be on the shelves.
 
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