My guess is 14.2 is for the new iPhones, the beta now allows Apple to test it for the next several weeks before the new phones come out.
I guess 14.1 will come out sometime between now and the new iPhones..but just my guess!
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My guess is 14.2 is for the new iPhones, the beta now allows Apple to test it for the next several weeks before the new phones come out.
I guess 14.1 will come out sometime between now and the new iPhones..but just my guess!
My, purely speculation, take on it:
They‘re behind production for the new iPhones and thus couldn‘t reveal them at the conference. That means that the GM they shipped there (which was determined to be the beta 8 build by them), had to be ready in time for the new Watches shipping today.
If you can‘t or don‘t want to leak your new devices early, the 14.0 GM can‘t tell us anything about the new devices (hardware features etc).
That‘s why they‘ll probably ship with 14.1, which potentially had to be finalized already so they could get them produced in time for their release in Oct/Nov or a potential reveal event in a few weeks.
14.2 comes after that, sure, but probably lacks the usual traces you have for new devices. It‘s not unusual that a point release beta (or even major release) lacks functionality / content the previous release had (e.g. the bugfree News+ Audio stuff in 14 or the exposure notifications system cause they were working on a new one behind the scenes).
My theory would also mean that we wont see 14.2 any time soon, because they can‘t release it before the 14.1, which probably hits around the time the first new iPhones are presented or hit hands. Once that happens, they merge the new devices specific things into 14.2, which could also explain why this beta has more woes than the GM, and release 14.1 for all other devices as a full release without beta testing.
That or they just went through major kernel updates in 2 weeks and skip 14.1 alltogether.
/redpill out
They‘re behind production for the new iPhones and thus couldn‘t reveal them at the conference. That means that the GM they shipped there (which was determined to be the beta 8 build by them), had to be ready in time for the new Watches shipping today.
If you can‘t or don‘t want to leak your new devices early, the 14.0 GM can‘t tell us anything about the new devices (hardware features etc).
That‘s why they‘ll probably ship with 14.1, which potentially had to be finalized already so they could get them produced in time for their release in Oct/Nov or a potential reveal event in a few weeks.
14.2 comes after that, sure, but probably lacks the usual traces you have for new devices. It‘s not unusual that a point release beta (or even major release) lacks functionality / content the previous release had (e.g. the bugfree News+ Audio stuff in 14 or the exposure notifications system cause they were working on a new one behind the scenes).
My theory would also mean that we wont see 14.2 any time soon, because they can‘t release it before the 14.1, which probably hits around the time the first new iPhones are presented or hit hands. Once that happens, they merge the new devices specific things into 14.2, which could also explain why this beta has more woes than the GM, and release 14.1 for all other devices as a full release without beta testing.
That or they just went through major kernel updates in 2 weeks and skip 14.1 alltogether.
/redpill out
Yea, exactly, I take their word as golden, plus saw others saying the same.
Mind you, I wasn't seeing it until I removed the profile and downloaded agains.
Exactly, explains most the weirdness with the tail end of 14.0 beta cycle, and the bugs that remain.
14.1 is definitely coming with the new phones next month.
14.2, I can see 2 things:
1. 14.1 will be on the first wave of the iPhone 12, and 14.2 comes with the Pro models.
2. 14.1 comes with all the new phones at the same time and 14.2 comes in November (like how the old x.1 used to come). Mind you, those came with new emojis and not seen a peep about that in 14.2 stuff so far.......
Just showed up on Apple Beta Software Telegram Channel - if it's true, what does the mean for us testers that have installed that firmware?
That would be nice especially if it addresses the battery issues a lot of us are having.
IOS 14 beta 2 is not fixing this :-(( but it seems to have been pulled - dunno why
Not pulled on all devices, so whatever the issue, it's limited to those 2 devices.
Bear in mind that iOS 14.2 b1 is an older build than 14.0 GM, as they obviously forked at a point to allow for 14.0 to get ready for devices for Apple Watch Series 6, whilst the other forks (14.1 & 14.2) went off for the new iPhones and beyond.
So you think no new updates until they release 14.2? ? Are you new to iOS devices?
It‘s not older? How is it older?
Kernel compile time is literally 2 weeks newer than B8/GM + it‘s a new Kernel version, which changes the builds letter to B and resets the build count to the right of it.
No, i am using iOS since 2016 but this is my opinion.
Oddly enough, i still don’t believe iOS 14.0.1 will be released.
I meant that it forked at an earlier point. I was tired, so I cut some corners when typing, but thought the point would be understood.
Possibly see Beta 2 or later will evidence the reintegration, which sees the new watch faces returning, Blood Oxygen level app for Series 6 watches return too, etc.
No, i am using iOS since 2016 but this is my opinion.
Oddly enough, i still don’t believe iOS 14.0.1 will be released.
Possibly not, but there will be a 14.1. The question is will it be limited to the new devices, or will it come to all devices.
I'd be likely to update if that rolls out this week.
I would say an update is potentially a good chance this week, but I don’t see it coming today. Tues or Weds more likely if something is on the schedule.
? Is there a reason this thread is no longer pinned on top of this sub-forum?
Speculating about 14.x.y releases will continue for at least a year. Could a mod please re-pin it (making it a sticky thread again)?
Speculating about 14.x.y releases will continue for at least a year. Could a mod please re-pin it (making it a sticky thread again)?
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Think 14.2 Beta 2 for XR, 11 and iPad 8 today as beta1 was removed for those devices
I would usually agree with you, but the beta 1 notes stated that support for iPad 8th gen would be coming this week, so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it earlier than the usual 2 weeks. Plus the XR and 11 are also missing.