iOS 15 Speculation Thread

[Ansath]

I second the chain of the last 5 posts.

no software release is perfect, be it one of Apple’s OS’s, Google, Microsoft, or Joe bloggs little indie developer.

As stated, this forum is mainly a vocal minority, power users that like to tinker, and some tend to have unrealistic high expectations, which then leads to very negative posts, which are not helpful to the people who are not so much of a power user, but curious about tinkering.

We just have to try and be as helpful as we can, and provide constructive criticism, rather than resorting to dramatic hyperbole.

 

[B/D]

Thank you very much, guys. That was awesome. I agree with all of you. To discuss my passion/hobbies, to learn, and to share that knowledge and helping others with it is my motto here, on reddit, and just every internet forum in general. That´s what I think they are for.

That said, I do not think, or at least I hope so, that I ever have resorted to dramatic hyperbole. If my prior statement about IOS 15 seemed like one , its because, for me, this year releases in general (audioOS, tvOS, IOS, IpadOS... will see about Monterey), seems rougher than usual. Not in terms in performance and/or battery life, but in terms of pure software bugs/misbehave.

Do I think that Apple is still considerably better than the competition at what they do?. Yes. Am I still deep into their ecosystem?. I am. Their hardware is absolutely stellar, better than it has ever been, and the ecosystem is fantastic.

But do I also think that their software QC and UI design and polish have been slowly declining during the last years?.

Absolutely.

 

[gwhizkids]

I wasn´t present before so I ask in a truly interested, respectful manner: how does it work?

[NOTE: I wrote all of this before reading the other excellent response posts. Like the others, I note that your response to my post was very respectful, which is why we have all responded this way. Thank you! ]

Apple has what appears to be a rigid schedule by which they release betas and final releases. They do not appear to spend more time on any particular beta sequence if there appear to be more bugs.

As a matter of fact, we don’t know if these alleged bugs are bugs (as Apple may be testing things resulting in the software behavior attributed commonly to “bugs”).

Also, even though an issue pops up in these forums, that doesn’t mean an issue is widespread. I liken these forums to the reviews on Amazon: the >99% who are satisfied for the most part with a product never post anything. It’s the unsatisfied purchasers who do (along with the occasional do-gooder). Same here. 99.9% of iPhone users don’t post here and likely don’t have issues or don’t care about them. So the bad stuff is waaaaay over amplified in these forums.

Apple, like any other organization is going to spend its time fixing problems ordered from the highest to lowest result of the following equation:

Severity times number of users affected.

So though you may have a bug, if it is not shared by many or it is not particularly severe, they’re not going to spend much time on it short term.

In any event, the beta you are using is several weeks and builds old by the time you get it. Apple internally is already on to newer builds where they may actually have corrected the bugs you are concerned with.

 

[B/D]

Thank you very much. Fantastic post, and great explanation.

I personally never use beta software in any of my devices, under any circumstances. I think its not worth it, although I respect those who use them, of course.

 

[Pearsey]

My turn, my turn, do you want to hear about IPSW?? 😆😂🤣

 

[mrmister]

iOS 15.1 beta 3 was released Wednesday. What are people's best guesses for when we'll see 15.1 get released to the public? Is it in October, or will it be November...or, I suppose, is December possible? Where are we usually at in development at this point?

 

[Bobout]

My turn, my turn, do you want to hear about IPSW?? 😆😂🤣

Bloody hilarious 😂

 

[Pearsey]

On as serious note, really enjoyed reading all that. You guys really know your stuff and it’s good to learn about all those little things I kind of think about, but you all take it to a deeper level. Great stuff. Love this community you bunch of sexy geeks

 

[Pearsey]

Betas kick ass! the excitement of a new beta in the week to fix bugs you’ve/we’ve found, and when there gone and you see your phone step it up a notch, is great - what a buzz. Finding and working a solution is fun using the old grey matter. Helping, learning, laughing with all you guys is a good crack and makes this whole “getting your hands dirty” with tech is a good ride watching the software evolve.

bring on 15.2, I think this one in a couple of weeks, maybe, will be a good one 🤞🏼

 

[drak22]

I in this beta 3 I have noticed an improvement in the battery consumption and in stability I do not see any problem. I would not be surprised if this week we see an RC version. The only problem I have, if the operation of ios 15 is not like that, is the high consumption of System Data. It seems excessive to me 8Gb that it occupies now with so few applications that I use, 37 right now. In ios 14 it was around 4gb, with maximum peaks of 6Gb, but here those 6Gb are almost how it starts, even reaching 10Gb or 11Gb. I will restore in the final of 15.1, to see if it is solved, because neither in 15.0 or 15.0.1 it did.

 

[gwhizkids]

iOS 15.1 beta 3 was released Wednesday. What are people's best guesses for when we'll see 15.1 get released to the public? Is it in October, or will it be November...or, I suppose, is December possible? Where are we usually at in development at this point?

Late October, I think. Possibly early November. We’re at that “almost done” feeling-time. Plus they need to get this out to get 15.2 going as I believe there are a couple of features there that have been promised “by the end of the year”. That’ll be a tight schedule if they don’t get it going by the first week in November.

 

[gank41]

Late October, I think. Possibly early November. We’re at that “almost done” feeling-time. Plus they need to get this out to get 15.2 going as I believe there are a couple of features there that have been promised “by the end of the year”. That’ll be a tight schedule if they don’t get it going by the first week in November.

I was thinking that, too. They tend to not release anything over the holidays, so I’d assume 15.2 will either be in testing or out by the end of Dec.

 

[Ansath]

I’m going with 15.1 by end of October and 15.2 will be out before Christmas, bringing SharePlay and Universal Control.

 

[chillip]

And to add to this @B/D, sometimes there are known bugs in beta releases. Sometimes there are settings or configurations that aren't impacted while others are. Sometimes it can seem like you might be the only one with an issue, and you may be! Most likely not, though. Sometimes Apple specifically "breaks" something so that it can be tested. That's generally why people push back and say betas shouldn't be used on your daily driver.

Also, not only is there a predetermined schedule of beta releases, but sometimes a bug can be so bad that it warrants a second beta release in one week. Basically, Apple knows but none of us know, exactly, when a beta update will be released. That's why we're all speculating

I guess this is more in reply to @chillip...

Me???

 

[Pearsey]

What we going with Tuesday or Wednesday for the next beta/RC ?

 

[Bobout]

What we going with Tuesday or Wednesday for the next beta/RC ?

I think there will be another beta Tuesday with a A build then RC the following week is my guess..

 

[Pearsey]

I think there will be another beta Tuesday with a A build then RC the following week is my guess..

Makes sense.

Tuesday 2nd Nov 15.2 B1 maybe 😜

 

[LFC2020]

15.1 final release this week? Before the Apple Watch launches. 🤔

 

[Zsoo21]

15.1 final release this week? Before the Apple Watch launches. 🤔

yes , I think

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Happy Monday Ya'll. I hope everyone had a great weekend.

It is Columbus Day in America. Happy Columbus Day!

I wonder if we're going to get a new iOS update this week for the public release

 

[B/D]

I´m mostly waiting 15.1 for the Homepods. Lossless and atmos support for Apple Music content. As crazy as it may seems, I have an original stereo pair in my living room as my main, daily driver speakers, both for music and movies/tv shows (with an Apple TV 4K), and I think that, for what they are, they sound fantastic.

Do I miss my old, dedicated 7.1 surround sound system?. Yes. Its comparable?. No, of course not. But if you are deep in the apple ecosystem, for what they are, the homepods are great, almost an audio engineering marvel. So underrated and misunderstood, that product was. Lot of advanced audio tech for a consumer, self powered smart speaker.


Sorry for the off-topic.

 

[B/D]

15.1 final release this week? Before the Apple Watch launches. 🤔

Can an IOS version go live with just 3 betas and no RC?. Just curious. There is a minimum number of betas stipulated before release?. Or it changes with each IOS version?.

 

[Ansath]

15.1 final release this week? Before the Apple Watch launches. 🤔

Well, we've not had an RC. Apple in the past have done .x releases without GMs, but since iOS 14 and shifting to RC's, they've had an RC. With the exception of 14.8, but that was kinda unique in a way.

 

[Ansath]

Can an IOS version go live with just 3 betas and no RC?. Just curious. There is a minimum number of betas stipulated before release?. Or it changes with each IOS version?.

13.7 & 14.1 had 1 beta, 14.8 had no betas. Tho not counting 14.8 as it didn't have new features. So, it's possible, but unlikely.

Since 15.1 is bug fixes and a feature that was mostly tested in 15.0 betas before being pulled, it's possible that they could go straight to release, but I am going with us seeing an RC this week and public release next week.

 

[Pearsey]

15.1 final release this week? Before the Apple Watch launches. 🤔

no chance, no RC yet. And that would mean jumping from a D build to final release. Wake up, your dreaming 😆😂👍🏼