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Anyone know if the bug where your alarm gets really quiet if you happen to sleepily glance at your phone on its stand when it's going off when standby is active and "Attention Aware Features" is on (word soup!) has been fixed?

I was nearly late for work due to this bug, but do like the other perks of having "Attention Aware Features" turned on.
I don’t think that’s a bug, I think it’s working as intended. I don’t use Standby, but I use the Sleep Focus/schedule and it works the same there. It was like that in iOS 16 too.
 
Can anyone check if the blank Apple Arcade game icons in iCloud Storage fixed in iOS 17.2?
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One of the KEY FIXES of 17.2 is WiFi speeds. That was my point, not that "this beta sucks" - it was a selling point of 17.2 was around the improvement to network speed. Which in my case was a network degradation.

FYI, mine's not 100% either. Doesn't freeze as much, but still freezing. Very annoying. So you're not alone. Hoping they are still tweaking for the next beta.
 
I’ve noticed a few messages end with “How can this stuff ship like this?”

Ask Craig Federighi
frederighi@apple.com

I have emailed him before about a cryptographic issue and had a response.
I don't want to be bugging people, pun intended :), but it's getting a little ridiculous.

I could give you 5 examples of sloppy UI in iOS from the top of my head.

Don't they have basic unit testing?
 
I have emailed him before about a cryptographic issue and had a response.
I don't want to be bugging people, pun intended :), but it's getting a little ridiculous.

I could give you 5 examples of sloppy UI in iOS from the top of my head.

Don't they have basic unit testing?

Do you maintain millions of lines of code with ridiculously fast iteration times?

File the bug. If it’s on their critical list they’ll fix it.
 
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It hasn’t shipped. It’s beta 1.

It started in 17.1, I just cannot believe it's still in 17.2 beta or otherwise, it's so fundamental.



Do you maintain millions of lines of code with ridiculously fast iteration times?

Yes.



File the bug. If it’s on their critical list they’ll fix it.

I did, this type of bug is completely unacceptable, it's fundamentally flawed rendering of text, not some esoteric workflow.
 
I'm cool with the WiFi speeds.
I'm not cool with WiFi calling (for other devices) completely not working.
After testing for the past 18 hours, with little sleep, across Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile - it's not a network thing, it's an iOS thing.
(the Chrome issue surfaced on my iPad as soon as I updated it, hoping that 17.2 iPhone=iPad would fix wifi calling.. which it did not)
 
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I don’t think that’s a bug, I think it’s working as intended. I don’t use Standby, but I use the Sleep Focus/schedule and it works the same there. It was like that in iOS 16 too.
It probably WAS working as intended before standby came along. But it should not lower the volume while in standby because if you happen to be sleeping with your eyes open a bit (more common than you think), facing your phone on your nightstand, the alarm won't go off at full volume to wake you up.

Basically an unintended consequence of the phone now being on a stand, facing you in bed, rather than laying flat on the nightstand. So yeah, maybe not a "bug", but definitely an issue.

All they have to do is make this "quieting" feature not kick in if standby is active; that would fix the problem.
 
I have emailed him before about a cryptographic issue and had a response.
I don't want to be bugging people, pun intended :), but it's getting a little ridiculous.

I could give you 5 examples of sloppy UI in iOS from the top of my head.

Don't they have basic unit testing?

How I use my iPhone 14 Pro, I don't come up against any UI glitches.
And Im a Creative working in UI, web design, Graphic etc, so quite intense with all this stuff.
 
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Would you like to see some examples?

Once again I need to issue the following reminder:

Yes, there are bugs in Apple’s software. However, they do not affect all users or all devices. Apple will triage those bugs based on the number of users/devices affected and/or the severity of the bug.

A minor bug that affects all users will likely get fixed quickly. A severe bug that only affects a relatively small number will also likely get fixed quickly.

What won’t get fixed as quickly (if at all) is a minor bug that doesn’t affect all that many users or devices.

A simple UI bug that does not seem (at least anecdotally) to affect a large number of users is probably not on the “fix fast” list at Apple.
 
It started in 17.1, I just cannot believe it's still in 17.2 beta or otherwise, it's so fundamental.





Yes.





I did, this type of bug is completely unacceptable, it's fundamentally flawed rendering of text, not some esoteric workflow.
It feels like a bad year for iOS unfortunately. I bet Apple have moved a load of Dev resources onto Vision Pro…some of the bugs do seem to be quite amateurish.

I’m preparing to have to wait quite a while for most things to get fixed - hope I’m wrong though. Been having very broken experiences at times when the Photos app refuses to send pics to any app via the share sheet. Just hangs on the ‘preparing’ dialog.

I think I’ve narrowed my bug down to only images that are both in ‘portrait’ and ‘live’ modes at the same time. That’s a scenario that didn’t exist before iOS 17 so it’s obvious that they’ve not implemented it properly. They’ve shipped it with show-stopping bugs.

The issues seems to work itself out after a few hours and a few restarts. I’ve replaced my iPhone 15 Pro Max with another one, tried deleting/turning off iCloud entirely, reported the bug about 5 weeks ago…no fix as of yet. Only seems to be on the new phones too, fine on my 14 Pro Max.

Ho hum eh. Software’s hard.
 
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It probably WAS working as intended before standby came along. But it should not lower the volume while in standby because if you happen to be sleeping with your eyes open a bit (more common than you think), facing your phone on your nightstand, the alarm won't go off at full volume to wake you up.

Basically an unintended consequence of the phone now being on a stand, facing you in bed, rather than laying flat on the nightstand. So yeah, maybe not a "bug", but definitely an issue.

All they have to do is make this "quieting" feature not kick in if standby is active; that would fix the problem.
I understand what you’re getting at now, it’s a very good point you make 👍🏻.
 
Once again I need to issue the following reminder:

Yes, there are bugs in Apple’s software. However, they do not affect all users or all devices. Apple will triage those bugs based on the number of users/devices affected and/or the severity of the bug.
👍👍👍 I am always amazed at those who make blanket statements that THEIR issue is earth shattering and affects all users and all devices. I suspect that the main issue is not with the device. I’ve had a fair number of issues that I sometimes see referred to in a few rare posts, and sometimes none at all. They are usually fixed in future releases, sometimes a long time afterward. I actually got an email from AppleSeed recently stating that an issue I reported over a year ago in ios 16 should be fixed in the current beta. And it was. I guess I could have just told everyone who stated they didn’t have this issue that they were just using their device improperly, as I’ve seen some do.
 
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👍👍👍 I am always amazed at those who make blanket statements that THEIR issue is earth shattering and affects all users and all devices. I suspect that the main issue is not with the device. I’ve had a fair number of issues that I sometimes see referred to in a few rare posts, and sometimes none at all. They are usually fixed in future releases, sometimes a long time afterward. I actually got an email from AppleSeed recently stating that an issue I reported over a year ago in ios 16 should be fixed in the current beta. And it was. I guess I could have just told everyone who stated they didn’t have this issue that they were just using their device improperly, as I’ve seen some do.
The most unfortunate thing is that you had to wait for over a year for your bug report to be fixed. This does not bode well if/when the bug is a troublesome one. Oh well though, software eh.
 
The most unfortunate thing is that you had to wait for over a year for your bug report to be fixed. This does not bode well if/when the bug is a troublesome one. Oh well though, software eh.
That particular one was not mentioned anywhere on any forum and I had asked multiple times over that year. In Feedback Assistant it had always been displayed as no other reports. So I was surprised to get the email and that it had finally been fixed. Obviously it was something minor and not affecting many, if any, others. Nothing is perfect and sometimes you just have to accept it and work around it, or ignore it.
 
That particular one was not mentioned anywhere on any forum and I had asked multiple times over that year. In Feedback Assistant it had always been displayed as no other reports. So I was surprised to get the email and that it had finally been fixed. Obviously it was something minor and not affecting many, if any, others. Nothing is perfect and sometimes you just have to accept it and work around it, or ignore it.
Precisely, just part of life I guess.
 
Numbersync / WiFi calling has failed with 17.2.
Worked fine up until 17.1.
4 hours on phone with ATT. Disabled/reenabled WIFI calling and numbersync for apple.
Replaced eSIM. Absolute nightmare.
It’s been an issue before, but never this bad. It’s completely broken.
Turns out this was an Apple issue (confirmed with engineering).
Apparently there was a behind-the-scenes provisioning/activation issue on WiFi calling, that impacted multiple (but not) all versions of iOS.

After ~24 hours, WiFi calling (for other devices) activated, but it's still flaky.
 
Are you guys noticing any showstoppers on 17.2 or do you feel it's running pretty well compared to the previous release?

I'm seeing a few edge-case bugs in this tread but it doesn't seem to be running too badly eh.
 
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