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I agree, it should have come to the US first.
EU prioritizes fairness between businesses and consumers.

US prioritizes businesses over consumers.

-You're only ever going to see the E.U. force business to not screw over European society and then maybe those changes will trickle down to Americans simply because running a billion dollar corporation one way in the E.U. and another way in the US is a logistical nightmare.

By the sound of it, Apple will lose billions in E.U. earnings in just a few months or weeks. No way they'll freely hand over those earnings unless US regulators force them to (I'm sure über litigious US law also allows Apple to sue and postpone the change for years).
 
EU prioritizes fairness between businesses and consumers.

US prioritizes businesses over consumers.

-You're only ever going to see the E.U. force business to not screw over European society and then maybe those changes will trickle down to Americans simply because running a billion dollar corporation one way in the E.U. and another way in the US is a logistical nightmare.

By the sound of it, Apple will lose billions in E.U. earnings in just a few months or weeks. No way they'll freely hand over those earnings unless US regulators force them to (I'm sure über litigious US law also allows Apple to sue and postpone the change for years).
You think that anyone but the Big Guys are clamoring to run their own app stores? Most of the companies that have claimed to want this (epic for one) already have that revenue pulled from Apple.

I think this is an *option* that will be used by very few people in the real world.

Hard agree on the points of US vs EU stances though. Business runs this country.
 
EU prioritizes fairness between businesses and consumers.

US prioritizes businesses over consumers.

-You're only ever going to see the E.U. force business to not screw over European society and then maybe those changes will trickle down to Americans simply because running a billion dollar corporation one way in the E.U. and another way in the US is a logistical nightmare.

By the sound of it, Apple will lose billions in E.U. earnings in just a few months or weeks. No way they'll freely hand over those earnings unless US regulators force them to (I'm sure über litigious US law also allows Apple to sue and postpone the change for years).
Eu prioritizes big business because those are the only entities that will reap the benefit of a more open platform.
 
Apple is reducing their cut to 17%. It’s almost like competition is good for the consumer.
It’s better for devs who will make a better living. None of these percentage changes will be passed on to the customer (and they shouldn’t)
 
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Eu prioritizes big business because those are the only entities that will reap the benefit of a more open platform.
Given how the fees apply after a million downloads and also apply to free applications, how does this benefit big business? Facebook will lose money on free downloads irrespective of where their app originated.

It’s also good that Apple still have to verify apps and the user cannot just sideload an ipa file from the web. Massively cuts down on the risks of piracy and hacked apps. Shady organisations cannot just launch their own malware stores
 
I think people are underselling the $.50 fee per install per account per year. That's going to prevent a lot of big companies from moving to new App Stores. Spotify's bill would go from a couple hundred dollars per year to 10s of millions per year under the new terms.

I'm just going by the OP, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
The Core Technology Fee doesn't only apply to apps distributed through alternative app stores, it also applies to apps distributed through Apple's App Store should they choose to move over to the new terms. The reduced App Store commission only apply to the new terms.

You are correct interpreting this as a massive new bill for makers a large volume, free-to-install apps either provided for free, to customers or monetized in another way (ads, for instance). Amazon's app? Will go from paying zero to millions. Apps provided by large banks, retailers, business apps (Teams, Zoom) etc? Same. Most of Google's apps many of which must be installed by a lot more than 1 million? From zero to tens of millions.

Apple is likely correct in saying that 99 percent of developers will pay zero in Core Technology Fee, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple has some very interesting internal figures about what this would mean for their total fees, which of course they haven't released.
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MacRumors does not mention the charging of €0.50 per user download for new marketplace apps, regardless of whether they reach the 1 million mark. It appears that these apps are charged €0.50 per user annually. Therefore, if a user downloads a marketplace app but does not make any purchases, would it be correct to say that the developer of the marketplace app incurs a loss on that user? Per 9 to 5 Macs article "Makers of alternative app marketplaces themselves will also have to pay the Core Technology Fee, for the download of the alternative app store itself. For app marketplaces, the charge applies immediately — there is no 1 million free installs."
Per the updated terms, 9to5Mac is correct:

"The “Core Technology Fee” is fifty Euro cents (€.50) per First Annual Install, and applies to First Annual Installs of an Application on iOS in the EU that exceed one (1) million over a rolling twelve-month period, except for Applications that are Alternative App Marketplaces (EU). For an Alternative App Marketplace (EU), the Core Technology Fee applies to each First Annual Install."


So yes, downloading an alternative app store will incure an immediate .50 EUR fee for the developer.
 
Will unleash huge amounts of theft, software issues...it will be a real 'delight' for Apple stores as people. mindlessly screw up their phones and have as much of their info and banking stolen as quickly as possible. Have fun!
Sounds like some burger cope to me.
 
No they don't. They are either required to use the App Store or sideload, and this is controlled by the developer of the app. THAT is the difference.

For your very simple example:

Developer A makes app B.

Old: Developer A must publish app to Apple App Store.
New: Developer A is allowed to not publish App to Apple App Store, but publish it to App Marketplace created by Developer A that disregards user's privacy or security.

User who wants to download app B:
Old: Can use the private and secure Apple App Store
New: Is required to download the shady App Marketplace created by developer A.

User has only 1 option to download the app. In both scenarios. But the old scenario protects the user's privacy and security. The new scenario does not.
Ultimately, the developer always decides how and where the consumer can get his offering. This is nothing new and hasn't changed. The only one no longer controlling it is Apple.
 
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Who runs the given App Store? Maybe I should open up a “free” one and just collect data 🤷‍♂️
Hopefully the data you collect from the user is worth at least €0.50.

Per 9 to 5 Macs article "Makers of alternative app marketplaces themselves will also have to pay the Core Technology Fee, for the download of the alternative app store itself. For app marketplaces, the charge applies immediately — there is no 1 million free installs."
 
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The regulations should say that all apps should be available in all app stores so that the user can choose where to shop instead of the developer choosing for the user.
And how would that be a reasonable thing to mandate for a set of regulations aimed at improving competition?
Besides, which other platform has every app on every store?
 
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Ultimately, the developer always decides how and where the consumer can get his offering. This is nothing new and hasn't changed. The only one no longer controlling it is Apple.

Like I said, I don't disagree with that. But this is taking the Apple control (including security and privacy), for which I bought my iPhone and giving that to the developer.
 
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„Developers have a choice between opting into the new business terms in the EU or sticking with the App Store terms as they are today. Developers who choose to maintain the status quo will pay the fees they pay now -- 15 to 30 percent commission.“
Right but what if they want to make a game emulator which isn’t allowed int the App Store, they’ll need to use the alternate app store and will need to pay half a million euros per million installs? Such apps are usually developed by volunteers and released for free.
 
Glad this doesn’t apply to UK. EU iPhone prices will be going up for sure.
Apple is already charging for iPhones in the EU (and elsewhere) as much as it thinks it would be most profitable. If Apple would've sold iPhones more expensively, it would have probably lost marketshare in the EU and therefore would have lost even more on services. Apple isn't staying in the EU because of some kind of ideals or values of providing its products and services to all Europeans, it does it because it generates profits.
 
Only if you don't have it in the App store.
If Apple allowed the app in the App Store then it would be a non issue. I’m talking about free apps that apple doesn’t allow in the app store. They can’t be free if Apple will eventually charge 0.50 euro per install..
 
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