iOS 17.4 Introduces Alternative App Marketplaces With No Commission in EU

[truthsteve]

Yeah I too hate having choices!

Oh yeah look at all these choices of installing Dropbox for Mac from...only Dropbox.

 

[Samplasion]

I honestly would want something like chocolatey (windows), winget (windows) or homebrew for iOS/iPadOS.

Totally. Heck, a terminal interface, however limited it may be, to allow scripting would be cool as heck on iPad.

 

[truthsteve]

I agree, it should have come to the US first.

I agree, US should have a 30% core platform fee.

 

[Samplasion]

Oh yeah look at all these choices of installing Dropbox for Mac from...only Dropbox.

Did you expect to be able to download Dropbox from Mega or Google or Yandex Disk?

 

[I7guy]

that makes no sense

It makes plenty of sense as the eu app market place will now be a free for all as originally thought.

 

[Ctrlos]

what a bizarre take lol

??????

Devs pay less commission and therefore get more take home pay. How is this a bad thing? I don’t want reduced commission savings passed on to me.

 

[rctneil]

I'm not fussed about alternative app stores, but i'd love full default browser support and full support for aleternative browser rendering engines in the UK.

Wasn't there a draft bill or something similar to the DMA for UK?

 

[BaldiMac]

??????

Devs pay less commission and therefore get more take home pay. How is this a bad thing? I don’t want reduced commission savings passed on to me.

Exactly! An app isn't worth less to me just because the developer saved some money on the commission.

 

[truthsteve]

Did you expect to be able to download Dropbox from Mega or Google or Yandex Disk?

Thanks for proving that there's only one place for installing Dropbox from. So much for the choice argument.

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

Being warmly received..

 

[vipergts2207]

What great news. Much to the chagrin of a great many MR users in the EU Apple is

- Opening the platform to streaming gaming
- Opening the NFC reader
- Opening up to third party stores with no commission
- Cutting commissions by a third for the App Store

Amazing what can happen when a government works for its citizens rather than the largest corporations. And you really have to laugh at a lot of the posturing in yesterday’s giant thread.

 

[Dasbinnurich]

Thanks for proving that there's only one place for installing Dropbox from.

You can download it from your iCould account as well, if you upload it first. No one is stoping anyone from uploading it to another website, but what would be the point of that?

 

[truthsteve]

You can download it from your iCould account as well, if you upload it first

that's just downloading from dropbox.com with extra steps.

 

[Swissfashion]

Alternative marketplaces will need to deposit 1 million EUR as a guarantee. there will not be 10s of thousands of app stores. https://developer.apple.com/contact/request/download/alternate_eu_terms_addendum.pdf

 

[thejadedmonkey]

The fact that app updates count as an install is insane.

Otherwise it's not so so terrible.

 

[Hoyboy]

I consider this to be really bad news! For starters there is absolutely no way I’m installing any other app stores, yet some apps might only be available that way. This also hurts Apple’s profitability, which as a stock holder I don’t like!

I’m sure Apple will increase the costs of devices in the EU in retaliation to make up for any lost profits from this

 

[Samplasion]

Thanks for proving that there's only one place for installing Dropbox from. So much for the choice argument.

As opposed to the App Store which is... one? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

 

[eicca]

Personally, I wish the Mac were locked down like IOS. I hate it when a developer of an app I need makes me compromise safety by bypassing the App store. And, as a result, I've stopped buying any apps outside the app store if at all possible.

So you want your preferences to limit mine.

Conversely my preferences do not limit yours. Keep using your machine how you wish.

 

[spazzcat]

Honestly, the way this has been handled annoys me to no end. Why does Apple think they deserve to be paid for users downloading apps on their own phones, on their own copies of iOS?

You mean the platform that would not exist if it wasn't for Apple. The Platform that Apple has to pay to maintain. Do you think all the year software updates are free for Apple to create?

 

[eicca]

that's a ridiculous statement. a modern phone carries more info, and makes it more easily available than ANY home system. It's not apples to apples. People WILL lose money, be compromised, and be spied on to a degree that was not possible before. it's not a joke. It's not funny and it's silly to equate the platforms. Less tech savvy will be hit the hardest with recurring fees and scam apps. Spyware will proliferate and people's phones will be compromised. it's going to be a mess for many people. Who could just buy an android and enjoy that mess.

If you use the Apple ecosystem, everything that’s on your phone is also on your Mac that you can install anything you want on.

If you don’t want to install anything outside the App Store then don’t. Quit taking away my freedom in the process.

 

[boak]

Apple is already charging for iPhones in the EU (and elsewhere) as much as it thinks it would be most profitable.

I believe the prices in all countries are pegged to the US prices.

 

[spazzcat]

Being warmly received..

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We already know Tim Sweeney think Apple should pay him every time someone installed one of his Apps.

 

[neuropsychguy]

Some interesting changes. We'll see what happens over time.

 

[stefanovago]

This is huge

 

[erikkfi]

Apple is dropping the 30 percent commission to 17 percent, and the 15 percent commission paid for subscriptions over a year old or by small businesses will drop to 10 percent.

Wow, look what competition did on day one!