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smorrissey

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My battery seems to be worse since updating through Finder. I had been doing OTA for the last several updates but seems like it's draining rapidly since updating to 17.6.1.2. I honestly should've just left it be.
Same here. However in all my devices the one consuming more battery is the youtube app, perhaps an update will fix it.
 
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Populus

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It’s already happening! I DFU-restored my iPad Pro to 17.6.1 build 21G101. Now I’m doing a manual backup of my photos and voice memos and the… DFU-restore it as well using build 21G101.

EDIT: Done! My SE 3 already has iOS 17.6.1 build 21G101. Although it is still early to tell, I feel smoother animations in the system compared to iOS 16. Now I will leave it indexing and doing its stuff…
 
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bogdanw

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I wasted the whole Sunday morning to make a clean install of 17.6.1 21G101, 2% battery lost in 4 hours on Airplane & low power mode.

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Populus

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Yeah, battery has drained the first night for me as well, with no usage. I guess I’ll wait a couple more of days and, if nothing changes, I’ll install 21G93 to see if it behaves better.


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EDIT: I’m actually thinking about installing the older build right now… but maybe I should give it some time to settle…
 

UliBaer

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I would not further fiddle around with different 17.6.1 builds.
I think, there is an iOS 17.x update coming soon - maybe even today? :oops:

[edit] 17.6.1 21G93 Running fine on SE2 and 12 Pro
 
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Populus

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I would not further fiddle around with different 17.6.1 builds.
I think, there is an iOS 17.x update coming soon - maybe even today? :oops:

[edit] 17.6.1 21G93 Running fine on SE2 and 12 Pro
I had the build 21G93 on an M2 iPad Pro and it never drained a bit. That’s why I’m considering installing the older build… but in the other hand, I’d like to have the latest build on my devices…
 

thadoggfather

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I had the build 21G93 on an M2 iPad Pro and it never drained a bit. That’s why I’m considering installing the older build… but in the other hand, I’d like to have the latest build on my devices…

Interesting a small change like that made a significant difference for you. I fear updates but especially iOS 17 ones
 

Populus

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Interesting a small change like that made a significant difference for you. I fear updates but especially iOS 17 ones
Please take this first impressions with a huge amount of salt. It’s been barely 12h since the install, and after this morning the phone was quite efficient. Right now is still at 73%, so it is looking better as the time goes by. Also the older build was installed for a week on the iPad and it is a different device with a much bigger battery.

I think I shouldn’t worry unless I start experiencing bigger drain and overheating, which is not happening (so far).

I really hate it when Apple releases different builds for the same version.
 
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PhillyGuy72

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LOT of my apps are getting updates today, even late last night. (I try to update my apps every day, or every other day) I don't know...usually when I see these many updates to apps, an update is coming.

17.6.2...coming soon??

Battery life on this current version, eh..maybe the same as 17.6.1, which drained FAST! However, I can't honestly tell anymore with my current 13 Pro Max. 89% health now (which I still think it good for this aging phone..cant complain), the drain has been fast since Spring.
 

Abthevolfan92

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LOT of my apps are getting updates today, even late last night. (I try to update my apps every day, or every other day) I don't know...usually when I see these many updates to apps, an update is coming.

17.6.2...coming soon??

Battery life on this current version, eh..maybe the same as 17.6.1, which drained FAST! However, I can't honestly tell anymore with my current 13 Pro Max. 89% health now (which I still think it good for this aging phone..cant complain), the drain has been fast since Spring.
just my opinion wednesday is the day to watch for 17.6.2 and if it doesn't come on that day it probably is not coming at all
 
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Populus

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Okay, I’m experiencing a steep drain just after three hours of usage (street, 5G).

Right now I’m at 50%, 3h of SoT

IMG_0016.jpeg


So I’m seriously considering installing the build 21G93 on my iPhone and see how it goes.
 

UliBaer

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Here is my 12 Pro battery statistic:

2024-08-26 22.05.jpg

I have all background tasks disabled, use WLAN-calls/flight-mode at home and mobile carrier is limited to 4G/LTE outside. The days when i need more battery is, when i'm outside and use mobile internet.
 

Populus

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Here is my 12 Pro battery statistic:

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I have all background tasks disabled, use WLAN-calls/flight-mode at home and mobile carrier is limited to 4G/LTE outside. The days when i need more battery is, when i'm outside and use mobile internet.
I think those statistics are better than mine right? Obviously 12 Pro has bigger battery than an SE 3, but mine is at 92% and yours is at 82%…

I still haven’t installed any app… outside the ad-blocker, which I always install after any restore.

I don’t know, it’s weird that just using Safari, that steep discharge…

EDIT: something weird happened now: I’m in home, and I just disconnected from my home’s WiFi to see the impact of the data on the battery… well, now my iPhone is unable to reconnect…

Edit 2: after 10 minutes it reconnected to my WiFi. This is weird… I think I’ll go with the 21G93 and see if that works better…

It pisses me because animations are smooth and it feels quite snappy but… I don’t know…

EDIT 3: During this three edits it has gone from 46% to 42%
 
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UliBaer

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Have you tried a different browser? I exclusively use Firefox for manual surfing and Firefox Focus as standard browser. If there are way too many ads, for example on youtube, i use Brave for such sites, because of its excellent build-in ad blocker. That spares a lot of energy. Safari is an extreme battery hog, even Brave is a lot better!

BTW: My battery health is at 100%, the phone is from September 2023, it was brand new that time.
 

Populus

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Have you tried a different browser? I exclusively use Firefox for manual surfing and Firefox Focus as standard browser. If there are way too many ads, for example on youtube, i use Brave for such sites, because of its excellent build-in ad blocker. That spares a lot of energy. Safari is an extreme battery hog, even Brave is a lot better!

BTW: My battery health is at 100%, the phone is from September 2023, it was brand new that time.
Well, I’m a Safari loyal user. And, if I didn’t have troubles on iOS 16, I shouldn’t have them on iOS 17 either, right?

EDIT: 40%, WiFi and screen at minimum. Phone is hot.
 

Populus

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Okay, one hour later, I’m down to 30%, using WiFi.

I guess a 10% in one hour having watched one or two YouTube videos, listened to 30 minutes of a podcast (app Podcasts) checked maps, and some others actions, well, I think it’s not that bad…

Well, 29% after finishing this message.
 
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Reverend Benny

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If ad-blockers is the only thing youve installed and the safari browser is draining your battery I think that could be the problem. Since you also have networking issues that could be related to that too. Is the ad-blocker creating a VPN tunnel?

uninstall that and see how it goes and give the phone a few more days.
 
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Populus

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If ad-blockers is the only thing youve installed and the safari browser is draining your battery I think that could be the problem. Since you also have networking issues that could be related to that too. Is the ad-blocker creating a VPN tunnel?

uninstall that and see how it goes and give the phone a few more days.
It is not VPN based, it is Wipr, which is very efficient and I don’t even enable Wipr extra.

Nah, my devices have ALWAYS consumed more energy with ads, so I don’t think that’s the problem. But thanks for the suggestion.

By the way, total SoT was 5h30m, on the first iOS 17.6.1 cycle, compared to the circa 8h I used to get with 16.6.1 up until recently.


I’m likely installing the previous build tomorrow, will report back.
And I know, I shouldn’t judge just with one day but… I have a trip soon.
 

Populus

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Okay, restoring my iPhone SE 3 with the 21G93 build, hoping for a more efficient system, fingers crossed.

Next, once I check this is a better build, I’ll be updating all my other devices. However, if I keep seeing the same battery drain compared to iOS 16, the iPad 9 on my home is likely staying at 16.6.1

I hope FeliApple doesn’t read this… because he will say the usual “you should’ve stayed at the factory iOS version” lol (no hard feelings, Feli).
 
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Populus

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Okay, now the first impressions of the build 21G93. In short: much better and noticeable since the beginning.

Right after the installation of the build 21G101, the iPhone was pretty hot, and stayed that way with ups and downs in temperature. During that night, it drained an important % with no activity, and during the next day, just by browsing in Safari it made the phone hot and the battery dropped pretty quickly. It’s a pity I no longer have the screenshots to share how steep the curve was during the phone usage.

Now, right from the beginning, the iPhone didn’t get hot at all. I performed, again, a DFU restore, and left it indexing during two hours of no activity. Yes, restoring my devices and installing the optimal software is almost like a ritual for me, that’s why I only do it once or twice per year, it is too time consuming and I’ve already postponed a trip because of this.

So far, so good, 21G93 feels responsive and smooth, no heat whatsoever, and the battery is still at 98% after a few hours of very light usage (including a phone call).

I’m crossing my fingers, because if this build feels better, efficient, responsive and polish, I’m installing it on all my other devices and finally forgetting about software updates.

I’ll keep you posted.

EDIT: after the first 18 hours, the phone is much cooler with the 21G93 build, and I’m not experiencing the battery drain of 21G101. So I’ve decided to install that build on all my devices.
 
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Populus

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Update: almost 24h after the install, I can corroborate that, in contrast to the heavy drain experienced with build 21G101 (you can check the screenshots on this thread), which forced me to install the previous build, 21G93, on the same exact conditions the efficiency is much, much better.

The build 21G101 gave me 5h and 30m of SoT, from 100% to 0% with the phone being hot. And -I repeat- under the same conditions, mixed use of WiFi and data, only my adblocker, Wipr, installed, and leaving it a couple of hours indexing, it’s giving me almost 5h… at 45%. Because I know many people here swear by Apple and they never do mistakes, and don’t believe a minor update can screw battery life, here’s the current screenshot:

IMG_0001.jpeg


4h30m screen on time, plus 30m of screen off time listening to a podcast. If this keeps the same pace of consumption, iOS 17.6.1 build 21G93 will provide me the same, if not better battery life than iOS 16.6.1 (~8h), while iOS 17.6.1 build 21G101, which I installed previously, made my phone pretty hot and it didn’t make it longer than 5h and 30m. I repeat, for the third time, on identical conditions.

If you have an A15 or M2 device and are doubting between the two builds, my test strongly indicates that 21G93 is the good one.

Hopefully this will be useful for you. And if you don’t like my conclusions… well 🤷‍♂️
 

bogdanw

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I think Safari drains the battery, with or without extensions. I set Firefox as the default browser for now.
 
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UliBaer

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Seems it was good, the 21G101 build was not available for users (like me) running the 21G93 build OTA. There was probably a reason, the 21G101 was only available via the DFU procedure for people in need of that special build. Since Apple is always - how to say nicely? - "discreet" about what is really inside the package, we can only speculate, what was the cause...
I also think, this build 21G93 will be the standard for a while. Maybe, we get a 17.6.2 or 17.7 build by the time iOS 18 is released.

PS: I also think, Safari is the battery hog.
 
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Populus

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From reaching 0% in 5h30m running build 21G101 to…

IMG_0005.jpeg


YEAH, 6 hours of SoT plus 27 minutes of audio streaming (podcasts app), and I still have 24% of battery remaining, running 21G93. Awesome!

Also during the last couple of hours I’ve been installing and configuring more apps. My phone is almost completely setup.

EDIT:

IMG_0007.jpeg


Almost 8h on 21G93. Magnificent.
See you next year on the iOS 18 sub-forum!
 
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