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iOS 17 | Battery Life & Health
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As far as battery life goes, I think people don’t track it. If you don’t know what screen-on time you get, you don’t know how much you lose afterwards. Ignorance is bliss, and there’s a reason why that saying is common.
Sadly, the ramifications that stem from this are obvious. I have no issues with somebody not caring about battery life enough to track it as long as it gets them through the day. But many don’t track it, therefore they don’t notice if a device loses 3 hours of SOT on a device with 16 hours of SOT, and they recommend people to update and say “my battery life is fine”. It isn’t, it’s just that you didn’t notice it in the first place.
I will say it again before people come at me: not caring enough to track it is fine. Just don’t recommend updating on the basis that everything is fine if you don’t.
I have an issue on my iPhone 14 Pro Max since the iOS17 RC according battery life. When I check the battery usage, the worst seems to be the “Home- and Lockscreen”, which states “Hintergrundbild” (Wallpaper) as a high battery consumer… My battery health also dropped from 92% to 88% only one week after I installed the iOS17 RC. Before with the betas both the battery health and battery runtime were great. I tried every variation of the wall papers, currently I am using one without any effects or widget. However the battery usage from “Wallpaper” ist still crazy! Does anyone have this issue? And yes I already restored my iPhone to factory settings. Nothing helped. I am so frustrated. The guy at Apple hotline told me to take a manual record of the daily battery status at specific times for 10 days and come back to him, sounds not really promising to me.
Yes and no.
With the new 3nm process, the chip design was prioritized toward power vs efficiency. When first announced the initial supposition was the opposite as we had seen a decrease in battery life with the 14 Pro series.
It’ll be interesting to see the battery health of iPhone 15 Pro models going forward with the overheating issues. I haven’t had issues with overheating, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the 15 pro max is less susceptible than the regular 15 pro.
Battery Life not keeping up with performance. Needs to be addressed in short order!
No way is this good. I don’t want to give up one for the other
Since I installed the 17.02 update on my 13PM, charging is so much slower than before and it's not holding a charge as long as it did on the previous OS updates. 😐
Maybe around 9 hours? Usage isn’t too light, but then again, I’d expect better from a Pro Max on Wi-Fi, on its first major update.
My Xʀ on iOS 12 is significantly better than that. Your result isn’t abhorrent, but it is significantly below what I’d expect on any Pro Max, let alone the current one as of a few days ago.
Not great really! I’m not a light user but expected better tbh… just on 17.1 now, see how this goes over the next day or two. I’m glad to say performance has improved slightly, everything feels a fraction of a second faster with less of a lag 👍🏻😁
In the end, if performance is good, battery life is fine. It isn’t perfect, but 9 hours isn’t too poor. Like I said, it’s a little lower than I’d expect, and it should be better (stats-wise, the 14 Pro Max should be better than the Xʀ, even if I’m on iOS 12), but it isn’t unusable.
While I understand your frustration with battery life, telling people not to update isn’t the best tactic.
Your Xr runs well on iOS 12 because it was the OS of that year (so presumably updated through iOS 12.5.7 or whatever the latest is), was known for optimization efforts, and simply does less than current iterations. Your Xr would last for weeks if it ran System 8. iOS 17 does far more than 12. Even if we ignore the feature improvements, newer OS’ come with extremely important security updates. 17.0.1/2 patched 3 zero day vulnerabilities. All it takes is for something like that to be widespread and people who cared more bout squeezing one more hour of usage by not upgrading could have information stolen from them. iOS 16 had horrific battery life until 16.6 and now people are downgrading to get back to it but it’s at least still getting updates.
Again, I agree that energy efficiency should be prioritized through software, but updating is worth it.
Not only is not updating the best tactic, it’s the only resource available for people who don’t upgrade every year, sadly.
This will be my first full day on 17.1 and seeing how the battery holds up vs 17.0.2…
My fix that I found out so far for battery drain (iPhone 15 PM)
Disabled AW Ultra Bluetooth and WiFi. Disabled my eSIM on my iPhone 15 PM and completely mobile services on my iPhone only on WiFi - no more heat like before and battery lasts a lot longer than before.
But this shouldn’t be a long term solution.
I think it’s still a software problem related to the mobile modem (firmware maybe) and some connections between Apple Watch devices (at least) for me
Disabled AW Ultra Bluetooth and WiFi. Disabled my eSIM on my iPhone 15 PM and completely mobile services on my iPhone only on WiFi - no more heat like before and battery lasts a lot longer than before.
But this shouldn’t be a long term solution.
I think it’s still a software problem related to the mobile modem (firmware maybe) and some connections between Apple Watch devices (at least) for me
I don’t understand your point around security vulnerabilities. Apple *must* push any vulnerability fixes irregardless of the iOS version. The stopping of development of a specific iOS version implies that no new vulnerabilities will be introduced, but that does not mean that discovered ones should not be patched. This however should not be correlated with the battery life as you imply.
Ive for a similar solution: I’ve turned off mine.
Works wonders 😂
If Apple really cared about security they’d provide an actual solution.
I’m sorry, but having the certainty of an update obliterating my device for a theoretical threat isn’t a good option.
I also for some reason didn’t mention that in my reply to him, but it’s a little more than one hour. If performance were equal and iOS 17 only decreased my SOT by one hour on my Xʀ (when compared to iOS 12, obviously), I’d update today. Sadly, it’s far more than that, especially on heavier usage patterns.
I saw a nearly 4-hour SOT loss on my once-14-hours 9.7-inch iPad Pro when Apple forced it from iOS 9 into... iOS 12!!!!! So not iPadOS 16, not iPadOS 17. iOS 12. It’s a 30% SOT loss and I’m not even halfway through the major updates that device received. Appalling. And according to the numbers I’ve seen, iPadOS 16 users on the 1st-gen iPad Pro barely scrape 4-5 hours... so that’s a 64-71% SOT loss if updating to the final version straight from the original version. Not a “not updating for just one hour SOT” situation, right?
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Whelp, battery health finally started dropping. Was at 100 for a really long time, then 99 for maybe 2 months. Now just over the last 2 weeks I’ve dropped down to 95. Hopefully it slows down at some point…
Otherwise battery life has been alright. Consistently getting 6-7 hours with fairly heavy use basically all throughout the 17 betas and now on 17.0.2.
(iPhone 14 Pro, bought in Jan this year).
Otherwise battery life has been alright. Consistently getting 6-7 hours with fairly heavy use basically all throughout the 17 betas and now on 17.0.2.
(iPhone 14 Pro, bought in Jan this year).
I agree. That’s why apple should support older OS in case a vulnerability is found. In that way, providing security while keeping battery and performance at the same levels .