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No, you misunderstood. I mean the consumers that would purchase the device. Not particularly the people in this thread. Reddit posters, posters on MR, everywhere people are saying AI will not entice them to upgrade. They would need more.

I am not saying it’s a bad strategy, not in the least. Just simply people aren’t lining up excited about AI.
My point is that the sample you are referring to may not necessarily be representative. Clearly the analysts don’t think so (though they are not always correct)
 
My point is that the sample you are referring to may not necessarily be representative. Clearly the analysts don’t think so (though they are not always correct)
Why would it not be? The people that use the phone and purchase it.

Which analysts are you referring to? The ones on the call? Seems I remember several articles here not that long ago that where saying analysts predicting that AI wouldn’t drive as many sales as Apple hopes.

 
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For the love of Thor, DO NOT use the wireless charging pad in the Tesla.
I stopped using it the second day. Unlike MagSafe it doesn't hold the phone in place which leads to crazy hot temps. And I believe the design is crappy as well. Been sticking to the wired -- uncomfortable as it might be.
I use a MagSafe mount in my Tesla that I've come to REALLY love over the last few years.

Jowua 6D - Tesla MagSafe Charger Mount

It allows you to have the iPhone in landscape above the center screen, or have it portrait to the side.. I actually like the landscape for maps, just above the screen.. and it tends to keep me away from the phone

What's really nice, both of these mounting positions have your eyes in the direction of the windshield - so if you do need to do something while in FSD, the Tesla in-cabin camera doesn't figure that your eyes are off the road for a moment.

It's crazy to me that if the phone is in hand, because of the Tesla nag-system you cannot use FSD. So if something needs to be done in-hand quickly, you must disable the FSD for a moment so that you don't trigger an alert! I believe that's one of the BIG POINTS of FSD, you can trust it for a quick moment to help take care of things when you need a second or two. Of course, the problem there? People will abuse it..

PS - the point is, this MagSafe charging does not overheat my iPhone
 
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I upgraded from the iOS 17.6 beta to the 4th beta of iOS 18 and nothing in the photo gallery is indexed. When updating to iOS 18.1 I haven't seen anything indexed either. I don't have many photos either, maybe that's why in my case it took so little time to do it.
 
And speaking of photos, I tried to take a photo of a seaplane as it flew over us, and the camera went crazy autofocusing and turning macro mode on and off. I pointed it at the empty sky, and it kept doing it. If I take a general photo, it seems to work fine, but if more than half the photo is sky, it goes crazy. In iOS 17 and 18 it worked fine, I don't know if I had a bad installation or if it's a bug.
 
Another reason why I think 18.1 might release in September for AI capable devices is that there isn’t a separate beta setting for 18.1.

They can’t expect developers on 15 pro devices to be stuck on 18 B4 till September which is their only choice if they didn’t want 18.1.

Will be interesting to see what the next public beta release is for the 15 Pro devices though.
 
Another reason why I think 18.1 might release in September for AI capable devices is that there isn’t a separate beta setting for 18.1.

They can’t expect developers on 15 pro devices to be stuck on 18 B4 till September which is their only choice if they didn’t want 18.1.

Will be interesting to see what the next public beta release is for the 15 Pro devices though.
I don't understand what you mean. They're going to continue seeding 18.0 builds.
 
And speaking of photos, I tried to take a photo of a seaplane as it flew over us, and the camera went crazy autofocusing and turning macro mode on and off. I pointed it at the empty sky, and it kept doing it. If I take a general photo, it seems to work fine, but if more than half the photo is sky, it goes crazy. In iOS 17 and 18 it worked fine, I don't know if I had a bad installation or if it's a bug.
I’ve had some focusing issues also. I’d report it.

My suspicion is that the camera Focus Pixels are having issues in areas where there is little to no contrast, such as the sky. given how small the seaplane was compared to the Ray of the sky the problem still presented itself. I’ll experiment on that.
 
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I don't understand what you mean. They're going to continue seeding 18.0 builds.
Yeah that doesn't make any sense. It's pretty clear from almost everyone says that 18.1 is gonna be tested at least until October. No one is saying that it will release with the new phones. They would only have a month 1/2 of testing AI if they did that.
 
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Another reason why I think 18.1 might release in September for AI capable devices is that there isn’t a separate beta setting for 18.1.

They can’t expect developers on 15 pro devices to be stuck on 18 B4 till September which is their only choice if they didn’t want 18.1.

Will be interesting to see what the next public beta release is for the 15 Pro devices though.
It's either you take the 18.1 beta and hold on until Oct, or you stay on 18 and not get AI and get the full release in Sept. Apple is not gonna release 18.1 with AI after only a little over a month of testing.
 
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Another reason why I think 18.1 might release in September for AI capable devices is that there isn’t a separate beta setting for 18.1.

They can’t expect developers on 15 pro devices to be stuck on 18 B4 till September which is their only choice if they didn’t want 18.1.

Will be interesting to see what the next public beta release is for the 15 Pro devices though.
Except there is an option (it comes up at the bottom). There is no other beta currently which is why its 18.0 beta 4 or 18.1. There is literally two options when you go to update (18.0) or you click 18.1 at the bottom.
 
It’s really all going to come down to the Siri / app integration coming next year. If that works as advertised, that’s going to be a selling point almost no one else can match (perhaps Pixels). But that’s a big “if”.

I’m not looking at functionality. I’m looking at “do we need this?” and are people really going to use this? Personally I am seeing a lot of this AI, and future AppInt as more of a fad.
 
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I’m not looking at functionality. I’m looking at “do we need this?” and are people really going to use this? Personally I am seeing a lot of this AI, and future AppInt as more of a fad.
To an extend I agree. I dont think the general public really cares about AI. I take the small sample of my family and extended family, and no one cares about it. They sure wouldn't upgrade their phones for AI. My bother in law and myself are the only ones that are tech people, and while I am interested I am not sold its worth seeking a new phone to have.

I think AI can be useful in some cases, but for day to day I don't see it being revolutionary. To me making Siri smarter is the only thing that the general public would really care about from AI. Even then, it's still not the best. It's got a long way to go.
 
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View attachment 2402044Anybody else’s most recent emoji’s not updating with emojis used?
Was the same starting with one of the 18.x betas… I’ve got a feedback in (see attached) but currently they say “Unable to diagnose with current information” so I guess they don’t have a good way to track why it stopped working properly.
 

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I’m not looking at functionality. I’m looking at “do we need this?” and are people really going to use this? Personally I am seeing a lot of this AI, and future AppInt as more of a fad.
Disagree. To this point, it’s been a fad, sure. But if they can get this baked into the operating system (as Apple proposes to do) so that it sees your data holistically, it has the power to transform how we use our mobile devices. So the Siri thing is really the whole ballgame. Which is why they are taking their time with that. Thsee writing tools are nice, but, as you say, potentially a fad (though i do use Grammarly all the time and this may allow me to replace that, if implemented well enough).
 
These writing tools are nice, but, as you say, potentially a fad (though i do use Grammarly all the time and this may allow me to replace that, if implemented well enough).
I guess Apple Intelligence can make the native keyboard, and the autocorrect, much much better, right? I thought that’s what we would see on iOS 17 but I didn’t notice much difference, at least on the iPad…
 
Disagree. To this point, it’s been a fad, sure. But if they can get this baked into the operating system (as Apple proposes to do) so that it sees your data holistically, it has the power to transform how we use our mobile devices. So the Siri thing is really the whole ballgame. Which is why they are taking their time with that. Thsee writing tools are nice, but, as you say, potentially a fad (though i do use Grammarly all the time and this may allow me to replace that, if implemented well enough).
I agree Siri is the key here. Making the AI built around that is the key to the future of AI for Apple. My only concern is what we have seen even in the WWDC presentation for Siri in Apple Intelligence wasn't that game changing as we are talking about. If that's Apple's goal, I hope they over this next year that is the work they put in. As you say, the writing tools are all fine, but not game changing.
 
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I guess Apple Intelligence can make the native keyboard, and the autocorrect, much much better, right? I thought that’s what we would see on iOS 17 but I didn’t notice much difference, at least on the iPad…
This was the biggest disappointment of iOS 17. Heck we have been asking for better keyboard and autocorrect for years. Hopefully AI makes that actually happen.
 
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I guess Apple Intelligence can make the native keyboard, and the autocorrect, much much better, right? I thought that’s what we would see on iOS 17 but I didn’t notice much difference, at least on the iPad…
We can only hope. I use GlidePath (swipe) to type and it is awful. But I’m addicted to doing it (and the others are no better). What kills me are the errors that occur as the “autocorrect” “fixes” things after I’ve moved on. That drives me crazy. I should spend more time reviewing what’s there, but I’m lazy on that count!
 
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