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I’m in the EU. I got the new Mail app design by default even though I do not have Apple Intelligence. It is just there by default.

No mail summaries or anything like that. Just the tabs and the contact photos.

It’s quite underwhelming really.
Strange , do you have a US/UK account? I am located in germany and can’t see the new design and can’t activate it

Edit: found the problem: had to change my system language to English and voila it was there
 
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I’m in the EU. I got the new Mail app design by default even though I do not have Apple Intelligence. It is just there by default.

No mail summaries or anything like that. Just the tabs and the contact photos.

It’s quite underwhelming really.
For me too. I turned off contact photos and the tabs straight away. Would have kept the tabs if it was a primary inbox just like the focused one in Outlook. I like a trimmed down clutter free experience. It looked cheap and bloated with all the new tabs!
 
How is the battery on 15 pro devices, is it worth it to update from 17.7.1?
 
For me too. I turned off contact photos and the tabs straight away. Would have kept the tabs if it was a primary inbox just like the focused one in Outlook. I like a trimmed down clutter free experience. It looked cheap and bloated with all the new tabs!
Actually I also turned off the contact photos and tabs - isn't that funny? I prefer a clean experience for email, especially on a phone when the screen space is already limited.

I don't really trust Apple to auto categorise my mail into tabs. Plus, it actually just slows me down when I want to scan them.

I also find the contact photos unnecessary. I can see the sender already in the bold text at the top of the message.

The Mail app is like a word processor to me in that I use it like an appliance that just needs to work without looking fancy.
 
How is the battery on 15 pro devices, is it worth it to update from 17.7.1?
The battery on the 16 Pro is pretty equal to what I had with a 15 Pro on ios17. It's definitely not better in any way, that's for sure. If it's any worse then not by much.

I would say ios17 is a more solid platform due to all the updates it has had. If my 16 Pro were on it I would not update, at least not until about 18.5.

That being said, the latest beta of 18.2 is surprisingly good. A lot of the little annoyances seem to have been fixed. Still would stick on 17 if I could for now though.
 
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Actually I also turned off the contact photos and tabs - isn't that funny? I prefer a clean experience for email, especially on a phone when the screen space is already limited.

I don't really trust Apple to auto categorise my mail into tabs. Plus, it actually just slows me down when I want to scan them.

I also find the contact photos unnecessary. I can see the sender already in the bold text at the top of the message.

The Mail app is like a word processor to me in that I use it like an appliance that just needs to work without looking fancy.
That’s why I changed to unpaid spark app - don’t need the AI things and all the other stuff that comes with the subscription
 
That’s why I changed to unpaid spark app - don’t need the AI things and all the other stuff that comes with the subscription
Spark is a great app, I used to use it and really enjoyed it - good UI.

I don’t want email to be living on a third party’s server though just as a security precaution. The fewer servers it exists on, the less risk of it falling into the wrong hands. Email contains a lot of sensitive data.
 
Spark is a great app, I used to use it and really enjoyed it - good UI.

I don’t want email to be living on a third party’s server though just as a security precaution. The fewer servers it exists on, the less risk of it falling into the wrong hands. Email contains a lot of sensitive data.
Yeah that’s true.

Didn’t thought about that, but yeah already have Gmail app too, so yeah.
Both Gmail and iCloud mail accounts on spark.

I think there’s nothing to grab from me tbh 😅😂
 
Just recently bought an iPad Mini 7 and the Auto refine handwriting feature says it will download when connected to WiFi…. Well it is connected to WiFi and nothing happens. Tried restarting and connecting to other WiFi and hotspot. Anyone experience this?
 
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Yeah that’s true.

Didn’t thought about that, but yeah already have Gmail app too, so yeah.
Both Gmail and iCloud mail accounts on spark.

I think there’s nothing to grab from me tbh 😅😂
Yeah me too. Spark’s a great app, probably the best mail app. It’s slim pickings, iOS mail apps are a bit rubbish for some reason. Hoping a mobile version of Mimestream for more than just Gmail eventually pops up.
 
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Tiny bug (not sure if it's been brought up in this thread yet): when you ask Siri to shuffle an album, track 1 always plays as the first track (the rest of the tracks are shuffled though). It's like she cannot queue any album without starting with track 1, regardless of being asked to shuffle the songs or not.
 
This horrific "feature" makes my inbox look lousy.

Contact photos, the ones we choose for our contacts, are round. The new icons that iOS 18.2 Beta 4 makes for senders not in our contacts, are SQUARE.

Round, square, round, square, the two shapes look horrible together! And yes, I want to use MY contact photos for the senders who are in my contacts!

My inbox looks like this, switching back and forth between square icons and round contact photos.

Come on, Apple, you can do better than this! Make your little icons round, just like our contact photos!

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Anyone else had issues with your phone not ringing on this beta? I've had to reboot a few times to fix it, reset network settings doesn't seem to. I noticed that the career version on 18.1.1 and others is 60 while this one is 61.
 
I’m not sure I noticed exactly when this change in how you select the line to use was introduced but it seems more intuitive than the previous method.

I was making a call, brought up the dialer and noticed this:
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This horrific "feature" makes my inbox look lousy.

Contact photos, the ones we choose for our contacts, are round. The new icons that iOS 18.2 Beta 4 makes for senders not in our contacts, are SQUARE.

Round, square, round, square, the two shapes look horrible together! And yes, I want to use MY contact photos for the senders who are in my contacts!

My inbox looks like this, switching back and forth between square icons and round contact photos.

Come on, Apple, you can do better than this! Make your little icons round, just like our contact photos!

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If that really bothers you, you can turn off contact photos in mail FYI
 
Hey guys! I have a question for you. In the latest beta of 18.2, when you go to recent calls in the phone app and you accidentally touch on the screen, does it still automatically call to whatever person’s name you touched? Or does it have a button to make the call?

Thank you.
 
Hey guys! I have a question for you. In the latest beta of 18.2, when you go to recent calls in the phone app and you accidentally touch on the screen, does it still automatically call to whatever person’s name you touched? Or does it have a button to make the call?

Thank you.

It still makes the call. No button like we saw in the early 18.0 betas. I do hope they bring that back. I can’t think of what would have made them remove it unless it something like an Apple Senior Exec not liking the new UI.
 
To me Image Playground and Gemoji are gimmicks. I look at them like Animoji. Fun for a few weeks when it first came out but not something I ever really use. Maybe Image Playground won’t ultimately wind up that way but there are other AI image generation apps that don’t have the limits Image Playground does.

The Siri-ChatGPT integration is great! It goes a long way on delivering the promise of a smarter, more useful Siri experience and I’m excited to see it improve over time and to see other AI engines like Google’s get integrated in. It’s enough to tide me over until Apple produces their own LLM engine and, IMO, hopefully even when that’s available you’ll still have a choice between Apple and other alternatives.
 
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It still makes the call. No button like we saw in the early 18.0 betas. I do hope they bring that back. I can’t think of what would have made them remove it unless it something like an Apple Senior Exec not liking the new UI.
I for one happen to like the current UI; the button felt redundant in my opinion
 
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