iOS 18 Beta 5 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements

[Shirasaki]

I see the pattern here of identifying bugs, getting a bit annoyed at them then finding workarounds.

This is what keeps me going back to iOS 17. It's such a nuisance having a phone you cannot rely upon just to 'work'. Fine on a test device but I get the impression that there are some folks using the beta on their only phone.

I think that even when the GM is released to the public there will still be some annoying bugs - it's the same every year. Funny thing is, this is actually the most stable point in the current iOS cycle - iOS 17 is pretty rock solid at the moment, it's great but a bit boring I guess.

People still want some changes in their life I suppose. I have pushed myself to be away from beta software mostly, but jumps on iOS 18 beta train because of all the fun customisation and other features.

With that being said, software release nowadays are basically perpetual betas, regardless of the company. It’s always in the process of fixing bugs, countless bugs. The only time when bug fixes stop is when software drops the support. I bet not many people want to admit it but that’s the world we are living in.

 

[Shirasaki]

Another super annoying bug.
Whenever I want to type in Chinese using built in keyboard, whatever application I am using to type In Chinese, crashes randomly. Notes? Crash. Apple Email? Crash. Notepad app? Crash. Game? Crash. Safari? Crash. No app is exempted from random crash. And I do mean random. App can crash when I attempt to type in, when I type in a paragraph, or when I type a couple characters. No rhyme or reason whatsoever. It’s so hard to use.
But if I try to type in English, nothing seems to happen.
ugh…

 

[one more]

I see the pattern here of identifying bugs, getting a bit annoyed at them then finding workarounds.

This is what keeps me going back to iOS 17. It's such a nuisance having a phone you cannot rely upon just to 'work'. Fine on a test device but I get the impression that there are some folks using the beta on their only phone.

I think that even when the GM is released to the public there will still be some annoying bugs - it's the same every year. Funny thing is, this is actually the most stable point in the current iOS cycle - iOS 17 is pretty rock solid at the moment, it's great but a bit boring I guess.

We all have fun in different ways and might find the novelty factor too appealing. 😉

We do not only “identify bugs”, but also report them to Apple so others will have less things to worry about when the new systems ship. Besides, waiting for another year to install iOS 18? Brrr…

FWIW, iOS 17.5.1 was draining my devices’ battery about the same as the current (DB5/PB3) betas.

 

[adrianlondon]

Another super annoying bug.
Whenever I want to type in Chinese using built in keyboard, whatever application I am using to type In Chinese, crashes randomly. Notes? Crash. Apple Email? Crash. Notepad app? Crash. Game? Crash. Safari? Crash. No app is exempted from random crash. And I do mean random. App can crash when I attempt to type in, when I type in a paragraph, or when I type a couple characters. No rhyme or reason whatsoever. It’s so hard to use.
But if I try to type in English, nothing seems to happen.
ugh…

I'm not having an issue.

What keyboard are you using? I have simplified-pinyin and trad-zhuyin. Both seem to work ok.

 

[gwhizkids]

I see the pattern here of identifying bugs, getting a bit annoyed at them then finding workarounds.

This is what keeps me going back to iOS 17. It's such a nuisance having a phone you cannot rely upon just to 'work'. Fine on a test device but I get the impression that there are some folks using the beta on their only phone.

I think that even when the GM is released to the public there will still be some annoying bugs - it's the same every year. Funny thing is, this is actually the most stable point in the current iOS cycle - iOS 17 is pretty rock solid at the moment, it's great but a bit boring I guess.

If one doesn’t have a tolerance for some bugs, one should not be on the beta. No one should be “relying” on their phone to work with betas. Apple specifically says you should 𝘯𝘰𝘵 do that.

 

[mikelets456]

Yes, I mean that tool.

Day two and now I can’t save markups on photos. I use this for work so I’m going to have to find a workaround….this needs to be fixed and thanks for the heads up.

 

[TheBMacAttack]

If one doesn’t have a tolerance for some bugs, one should not be on the beta. No one should be “relying” on their phone to work with betas. Apple specifically says you should 𝘯𝘰𝘵 do that.

Also as stated just above, full releases have bugs just the same. There is no rock solid bug free software out there. The iOS 18 betas have been as solid as I can remember.

 

[gwhizkids]

Day two and now I can’t save markups on photos. I use this for work so I’m going to have to find a workaround….this needs to be fixed and thanks for the heads up.

Perhaps one should not be using beta software on mission critical devices. I’d consider that before telling Apple that they MUST fix that issue.

 

[AZhappyjack]

Day two and now I can’t save markups on photos. I use this for work so I’m going to have to find a workaround….this needs to be fixed and thanks for the heads up.

Work around = rollback to iOS 17.x

 

[ibookemo]

Work around = rollback to iOS 17.x

It’s funny because it’s true 🤣

 

[StumpyBloke]

Day two and now I can’t save markups on photos. I use this for work so I’m going to have to find a workaround….this needs to be fixed and thanks for the heads up.

Firstly, if it’s that important, why are you using it on your main phone?

And what is your feedback ID for this bug? Please provide it so that others with the same issue can refer to it.

 

[Shirasaki]

Day two and now I can’t save markups on photos. I use this for work so I’m going to have to find a workaround….this needs to be fixed and thanks for the heads up.

My workaround involves uploading photos to iCloud and use iPad to make edits since iPad one works. Clunky and slow but at least It works.

 

[Shirasaki]

I'm not having an issue.

What keyboard are you using? I have simplified-pinyin and trad-zhuyin. Both seem to work ok.

Simplified pinyin and Japanese romaji alongside English.
Random crashes still happen as of right now.

 

[one more]

So iOS 18 markup tool is broken entirely, cannot save the changes, but not iPadOS 18 one. Weird, considering both are essentially the same OS with superficial differences. Had to dance around through iCloud photos to make changes. Quite annoying. Restart both the app and the phone showed no improvements.

It works fine on my iPhone 15 running iOS 18 DB5 (22A5326f).

 

[mikelets456]

Perhaps one should not be using beta software on mission critical devices. I’d consider that before telling Apple that they MUST fix that issue.

I have a second phone (iPhone 15pm) that I also use. No big deal and yes I know and understand the consequences. Btw where did I state that “apple must fix this”? I need to figure it out, that’s what I was stating…simply switching to my other phone for now is “ figuring it out”.

 

[P_Watt]

Firstly, if it’s that important, why are you using it on your main phone?

And what is your feedback ID for this bug? Please provide it so that others with the same issue can refer to it.

I agree with the bit about not using on a main device, but if we quote an FBA number here, Apple (with whom we agreed an NDA) can link our MR user name with our real name. Isn't that a worry?

 

[AZhappyjack]

I agree with the bit about not using on a main device, but if we quote an FBA number here, Apple (with whom we agreed an NDA) can link our MR user name with our real name. Isn't that a worry?

While technically, I agree with you (and not wanting to derail this thread too far), one could easily argue against the enforceability of the NDA for a public software beta. Access to the developer beta is both free and ubiquitous.

 

[Ratlerbite]

Ok just noticed when AirPods etc are plugged in the noise settings have a up and down arrow. I don’t recall seeing this in the past

 

[gwhizkids]

Ok just noticed when AirPods etc are plugged in the noise settings have a up and down arrow. I don’t recall seeing this in the past

That’s been there throughout the iOS 18 betas (at least).

 

[gwhizkids]

I have a second phone (iPhone 15pm) that I also use. No big deal and yes I know and understand the consequences. Btw where did I state that “apple must fix this”? I need to figure it out, that’s what I was stating…simply switching to my other phone for now is “ figuring it out”.

I believe your exact words were: “this needs to be fixed”. Who else can fix it?

 

[mikelets456]

Firstly, if it’s that important, why are you using it on your main phone?

And what is your feedback ID for this bug? Please provide it so that others with the same issue can refer to it.

Firstly, everyone on this thread knows the consequences and there’s no need for senseless lectures. Either move on or help with the concern. Most on this site are very helpful and we’re here to resolves problems and we help each other. But I digress…

Anyway, I’m sure Apple knows of the bug and it was sent along with others…sometimes people on this site have a work around and that’s what I was hoping for…it’s hit or miss but it’s assuring to know people on here smarter than me usually find a workaround around.

 

[mikelets456]

I believe your exact words were: “this needs to be fixed”. Who else can fix it?

These are my exact words:

“so I’m going to have to find a workaround….this needs to be fixed and thanks for the heads up.”

I’m going to have to find a work around. Where am I demanding Apple fix it now? I’m stating a fact, it needs to be fixed to the other poster.



With a work around or I need to find an option…and yes, it does need to be fixed and it will. Like I really expect Apple to heed my demand…NOW!!! Seriously…Why do you even care? Just ignore my post…if you have a resolution then help if not ignore me. I’ll move on now rather than clutter this thread.

So, does it need to be fixed? Yes or no?

 

[mikelets456]

Work around = rollback to iOS 17.x

Up until now beta 18 has been far more stable than 17.xx
Beta 17 was an absolute disaster…this has been an easy ride so far. I do like RCS more than anything….

 

[AZhappyjack]

Up until now beta 18 has been far more stable than 17.xx
Beta 17 was an absolute disaster…this has been an easy ride so far. I do like RCS more than anything….

What has this to do with anything?

You said that you needed a workaround for something that didn't work the way you expected it to work in a developer beta. That workaround is to restore the current production release of iOS, where things worked as expected.

Whether or not previous beta cycles were "an absolute disaster" is irrelevant, as are any other features of the beta cycle that you may or may not like.

 

[mikelets456]

What has this to do with anything?

You said that you needed a workaround for something that didn't work the way you expected it to work in a developer beta. That workaround is to restore the current production release of iOS, where things worked as he expected.

Whether or not previous beta cycles were "an absolute disaster" is irrelevant, as are any other features of the beta cycle that you may or may not like.

I was answering a question. Anyway so far, battery life is better than 17.5.1, Siri seems far more accurate and responsive in CarPlay…I’m not sure what or if they did anything with Siri but it seems better anyway. also, CarPlay in my RAV4 hybrid connects quickly..faster than 17.xx.
I do like RCS that was a nice adder. I actually am one of the few that likes the photo app new layout.
Other than a few minor glitches iOS 18 has felt more like a release than a Beta.