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We on weekly’s yet do we think?
After first PB, your enlarging the data collection with participants to possibly find out more issues, still the SDK notes slimness looks a lot better offsetting that towards weekly. 🔮

Still let's not forget the M4 iPad Pro mess with iPadOS 18 as a wildcard.
 
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Are folks here thinking that Apple will put the Sleep Apnea functions into 18.1 beta 5 (to match how it already works in 18.0)?
 
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Gurman is estimating the 18.1 release for mid rather than late October. That sounds about right.
That comment is from his July 28th posting, just got the first PB on Thursday with Tuesdays beta 4, next possibility is Sept 24th for beta 5. So take it for it worth since it's a dated estimate. Just a RC and Public release is another two weeks minimum. :rolleyes:

This is telling he's not that confident about his earlier comment.
But despite iOS 18.1 probably shipping to consumers in a few weeks, it still has some bugs, including a pair of fairly annoying ones. The problems include the inability to remove Control Center buttons for hearing functions permanently. If you remove them, they’ll return on the next reboot and get placed in a location that messes up your carefully crafted layout. The other bug has to do with the lock screen and Control Center buttons for shortcuts. These buttons — at least just for now, I hope — use a default shortcuts icon rather than the one you set within the Shortcuts app.
 
That comment is from his July 28th posting, just got the first PB on Thursday with Tuesdays beta 4, next possibility is Sept 24th for beta 5. So take it for it worth since it's a dated estimate. Just a RC and Public release is another two weeks minimum. :rolleyes:

This is telling he's not that confident about his earlier comment.

Um no…this comment is from his September 22 email blast. I.e., this morning

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Um no…this comment is from his September 22 email blast. I.e., this morning

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Gurman will not change his prediction until he's close to being wrong lately, but we'll watch and see if after this beta 5 on Tuesday that there's a weekly beta 6, a RC and then the Public release on 10/14. Also 18.1 has no prior comparison. 🔮 ;)
 
Zollo alluded to the fact he thinks they will just use 18.0.1 to fix the Ipad issue. I know some say that's not possible but he seems very confident
 
Gurman will not change his prediction until he's close to being wrong lately, but we'll watch and see if after this beta 5 on Tuesday that there's a weekly beta 6, a RC and then the Public release on 10/14. Also 18.1 has no prior comparison. ;)

Gurman’s prediction lines up with what I have been saying for over a month: they need to get this out pronto. They have a ton of ads on tv touting it. They’re not going to wait.

I expect beta 5 on Tuesday (9/24). Beta 6 on Tuesday 10/1. RC on Tuesday 10/8 and release on Monday 10/14.
 
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Zollo alluded to the fact he thinks they will just use 18.0.1 to fix the Ipad issue. I know some say that's not possible but he seems very confident
related Friday article
  • unclear how long it will take for Apple to identify and implement a fix
 
Gurman’s prediction lines up with what I have been saying for over a month: they need to get this out pronto. They have a ton of ads on tv touting it. They’re not going to wait.
Reference
To that end, it’s no accident that the company is touting Apple Intelligence as the main reason to buy a new iPhone — despite the fact that the AI platform is unfinished and will ultimately work on last year’s Pro models.
This is where Apple is being a little disingenuous with its marketing. The company claims the iPhone 16 is the first model “built from the ground up for Apple Intelligence.” The reality is that the processor and other hardware in the new iPhones isn’t meaningfully better for AI. The key factor is having 8 gigabytes of memory, the minimum required to run Apple Intelligence.
If Apple felt that the hardware changes were enough of a selling point, it would have focused its marketing pitch around those features. Instead, it has zeroed in on Apple Intelligence in spite of the drawbacks. Most consumers won’t have access to the software for weeks — with some features not coming until next year — and it’s still nowhere near as capable as rival AI systems.
I agree, but still . . . .
I can't describe how amusing it is seeing those commercials on TV concerning the new iPhone 16. Example


So isn't SIRI 2 about March 2025 timeframe? Then you buy or trade up and get a iPhone 16 Pro and go where is it? 🤣
 
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