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There are always some bugs to fix
But if they squash some bugs in 18.2.1 that never were fixed before 18.3 B1, wouldn't they be pushing that to the beta? They wouldn't want to leave those bugs in over the holiday. I am just not sure they have time for it though. There were people here saying that a lot of Apple employees left the office on Tuesday for the holiday, which means they don't have the full team.
 
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But if they squash some bugs in 18.2.1 that never were fixed before 18.3 B1, wouldn't they be pushing that to the beta? They wouldn't want to leave those bugs in over the holiday. I am just not sure they have time for it though. There were people here saying that a lot of Apple employees left the office on Tuesday for the holiday, which means they don't have the full team.
Bug fixes can be addressed in the current release and in the future beta point update. It's bugs specifically related to things in the .3 update that wouldn't be addressed.
 
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Bug fixes can be addressed in the current release and in the future beta point update. It's bugs specifically related to things in the .3 update that wouldn't be addressed.
Oh yes for sure, but I wouldn't think Apple would want to fix things in 18.2 that carried over 18.3, but only release those to 18.2 and leave 18.3 hanging for 2 or more weeks. If it were a week, I could understand, but two over a holiday seems like a lot.
 
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Oh yes for sure, but I wouldn't think Apple would want to fix things in 18.2 that carried over 18.3, but only release those to 18.2 and leave 18.3 hanging for 2 or more weeks. If it were a week, I could understand, but two over a holiday seems like a lot.
I would assume they’d want a more stable release out in the wild over the long holiday break, as opposed to just shelving some could be basic fixes for a month or so.
 
I would assume they’d want a more stable release out in the wild over the long holiday break, as opposed to just shelving some could be basic fixes for a month or so.
Oh I agree, I don't know if they still have the resources to push out right now. The thought around here was that something would need to be out by no later than Tuesday before people leave the office. If not, or than likely it isn't happening.

What bugs are you expecting to be fix? Seems 18.3 didn't address much, so I am not sure there would be much that a 18.2.1 could address right now.
 
I was waiting for a new version to test. I wasn’t expecting a bunch of new changes with 18.3 (you can refer to my pre-18.3 in this very thread. I don’t have crazy high expectations for 18.3 or anything. I’m just a bit surprised at there being SO little in the way of any kind of changes. As I said before, I’m not really all that upset about it or anything, I’m sure some of the improvements/changes they planned to make in 18.3 are delayed until the next betas due to 18.2’s longer than planned rollout. I think we’ll hopefully see more in future 18.3 betas. I’m simply saying that if all of the 18.3 betas don’t add any kind of new improvements or minor features, I think that would be kind of boring, and be a missed opportunity to roll out more features and get development underway faster. That’s all. 👍🏻
Totally agree!!! 👍
 
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I don’t think we’re getting an 18.2.1, at least not today at this point. We’re a half hour beyond normal release time. Have they dropped updates later? Sure, but I’m skeptical they even need to drop an 18.2.1. Normally such releases are to either address major bugs, or security hazards. Maybe a security threat has popped up, but the x.x.1 updates are usually not pre-planned and scheduled as far as I’m aware…
 
Oh I agree, I don't know if they still have the resources to push out right now. The thought around here was that something would need to be out by no later than Tuesday before people leave the office. If not, or than likely it isn't happening.

What bugs are you expecting to be fix? Seems 18.3 didn't address much, so I am not sure there would be much that a 18.2.1 could address right now.

I know I sound like a broken record (for those under 40, look it up ): Apple doesn’t do their software development on an ad hoc basis. If they intend to release an 18.2.1 before the holidays and vacation time, then they put it on the schedule and got the necessary work done before people leave/left. And you can be sure that if an urgent 18.2.1 were necessary (but not originally programmed to be part of the release cycle), they have a skeleton crew of engineers around who can get it done. And they will call people in if needed (as in a super serious zero day bug).

Large organizations don’t leave stuff like this to chance. It is all meticulously scheduled, working back from when iOS 19 has to be released to manufacturing.
 
I know I sound like a broken record (for those under 40, look it up ): Apple doesn’t do their software development on an ad hoc basis. If they intend to release an 18.2.1 before the holidays and vacation time, then they put it on the schedule and got the necessary work done before people leave/left. And you can be sure that if an urgent 18.2.1 were necessary (but not originally programmed to be part of the release cycle), they have a skeleton crew of engineers around who can get it done. And they will call people in if needed (as in a super serious zero day bug).

Large organizations don’t leave stuff like this to chance. It is all meticulously scheduled, working back from when iOS 19 has to be released to manufacturing.
That was my point. There is no emergency that needs to be addressed, and if they have not released it yet, it's not happening. Like you said, this was planned way in advance.
 
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
 
Merry Christmas all! Great community and thread. Looking forward to what’s in store for Apple in 2025.

Merry Christmas all! I know I come off as the Grinch from time to time. But it’s all so we can have a better Whoville, I mean MacRumors iOS forums!

I enjoy the interactions here and all the different perspectives you all bring. May 2025 bring you all peace and happiness and bug free betas!
 
Geez Tim, why no iOS 19 beta this morning, what the heck?

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Merry Christmas!
 
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There is the plight of all of us beta testers. You hope what you get is what you want, and recently its more hype then substance, still if it just works and you can experience the joys of being with family and friends this holiday season along with lots of good food and entertaining each other that is all you really need. Merry Christmas! :)

If only the local suburbs looked this good!

 
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