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The whole DMA press release was clearly damage control so when the beta drops Monday and the EU don’t get the new features in that beta then Apple have already given a heads up.

I will be very surprised if the Monday beta release doesn’t happen.
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Apple today said that European customers will not get access to the Apple Intelligence, iPhone Mirroring, and SharePlay Screen Sharing features that are coming to the iPhone, iPad, and Mac this September due to regulatory issues related to the Digital Markets Act.
Those statements involve the public release of iOS/iPadOS 18 and MacOS 15 in Sept not what concerns beta seeds Next week. Everything in betas doesn’t get enabled world wide Initially. ;)
 
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Seriously don’t understand why some people really want the verges reporting to be wrong, does it really offend you if Apple release the next beta on a Monday or not 16 days after beta 1? I mean WWDC was later this year than usual but I didn’t see anyone up in arms about that.

The Verge has no reason to lie or misrepresent what they were told.

I have no reason to believe that we won’t see the next beta tomorrow.

I get this is the speculation thread, but there’s speculation and just being awkward for the sake of it. We’ve had a legitimate news site reporting the next beta will come tomorrow, with certain new features enabled, why not just say cool and look forward to testing those features?
 
Seriously don’t understand why some people really want the verges reporting to be wrong, does it really offend you if Apple release the next beta on a Monday or not 16 days after beta 1? I mean WWDC was later this year than usual but I didn’t see anyone up in arms about that.

The Verge has no reason to lie or misrepresent what they were told.

I have no reason to believe that we won’t see the next beta tomorrow.

I get this is the speculation thread, but there’s speculation and just being awkward for the sake of it. We’ve had a legitimate news site reporting the next beta will come tomorrow, with certain new features enabled, why not just say cool and look forward to testing those features?
Exactly this. The Verge is not one of those fly-by-night, in it for the clicks fanboy sites. If an Apple rep went on the record with them and they are saying that he said this, then I am about as close to 100% certain that this is how it will turn out.

Apple obviously did this strategically to telegraph what’s coming, when it’s coming and who can expect to see it. They don’t want the usual suspects speculating about what it means. This year even the betas have stock price implications. And, as I’ve noted elsewhere, there’s the little side benefit of tweaking the EU’s regulatory complex.
 
Exactly this. The Verge is not one of those fly-by-night, in it for the clicks fanboy sites. If an Apple rep went on the record with them and they are saying that he said this, then I am about as close to 100% certain that this is how it will turn out.

Apple obviously did this strategically to telegraph what’s coming, when it’s coming and who can expect to see it. They don’t want the usual suspects speculating about what it means. This year even the betas have stock price implications. And, as I’ve noted elsewhere, there’s the little side benefit of tweaking the EU’s regulatory complex.
Exactly my thoughts. There's no way that an article that is literally Apple PR is going to include false information about official release timing.
 
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It’s gonna be interesting tomorrow… will it, won’t it… 😬

Not getting to excited though because beta 2 notoriously sucks in comparison and then we start to see things get better in beta 3, 4…
I don’t know that it will follow that pattern this year as they will be introducing new features as we go along.
 
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Exactly my thoughts. There's no way that an article that is literally Apple PR is going to include false information about official release timing.
Yeah big news sites can’t just go stating PR stuff like that as facts without it being signed off by the company. They haven’t retracted anything either.
 
Buggy new features, more battery drain… high chance it will take a step back. Looking forward to B3 and B4 though, and B1s been pretty awesome to be fair.
Honestly IOS 18 beta with its reduced feature set has been decent. If you have Tap or Swipe to Wake enabled under Accessibility/Touch you noticed that the iPhone is forever waking up easily draining the battery while in the pocket if its jostled with these new interface features. .
 
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EU: Europeans wont be able to mirror their phones on laptops due to privacy concerns.

Also EU: We are going to monitor and scan -everything- any European ever is sending from their phone. Pics, urls, texts… You name it.
 
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Those particular features being a problem isn’t due to privacy, it’s due to them requiring Apple devices.

They expect Apple to support Android etc with phone mirroring which probably isn’t even possible due to the fact it all works with the phone still being locked.

Those are benefits of Apple controlling the full hardware and software stack for its devices.
 
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Yeah big news sites can’t just go stating PR stuff like that as facts without it being signed off by the company. They haven’t retracted anything either.
Don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade here but wasn’t there an instance recently about an iOS 17 beta release date but wasn’t released until the next week or so?
 
Seeing as it was in the Verge, and they’re not likely to print information that’s wrong, I’ll be expecting them in about 5 hours (seeing as it’s more nearer half past the hour they come out, rather than on the hour).
 
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Those particular features being a problem isn’t due to privacy, it’s due to them requiring Apple devices.

They expect Apple to support Android etc with phone mirroring which probably isn’t even possible due to the fact it all works with the phone still being locked.

Those are benefits of Apple controlling the full hardware and software stack for its devices.
You sure about that?

“We are concerned that the interoperability requirements of the DMA could force us to compromise the integrity of our products in ways that risk user privacy and data security,” Apple said in a statement.


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https://www.channelnews.com.au/apple-intelligence-wont-be-available-in-the-eu-this-year/
 
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Don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade here but wasn’t there an instance recently about an iOS 17 beta release date but wasn’t released until the next week or so?
The key difference is that the iOS 17 matter was not a public statement by an Apple spokesperson indicating a precise date.

Remember, also: we “speculators” are not necessarily the target audience for this revelation. The target audiences are (A) developers who will benefit by knowing that two big new features are about to be available to develop against, sooner (by a couple of days) than “normal”; and (B) the finance community, which wants assurances that Apple actually will deliver on the promise of these features (and the AI features, even more so). Given that, I would have expected a very quick correction from Apple on the beta release date if the Verge misstated it.
 
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maaaybe I’m crazy for jumping on the beta train with B2 buuuuut I’m looking forward to this dropping. I’ll start backing up my phone in the meantime. I assume it’ll be coming at 1 EST?
 
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maaaybe I’m crazy for jumping on the beta train with B2 buuuuut I’m looking forward to this dropping. I’ll start backing up my phone in the meantime. I assume it’ll be coming at 1 EST?
Yep, most likely between 1pm and 1:20pm EST
 
You sure about that?

“We are concerned that the interoperability requirements of the DMA could force us to compromise the integrity of our products in ways that risk user privacy and data security,” Apple said in a statement.


Source:
https://www.channelnews.com.au/apple-intelligence-wont-be-available-in-the-eu-this-year/
Interoperability requirements are exactly what I said? The DMA would require those features on Android, an OS that Apple doesn’t control and can’t confirm is secure.

You’ve misunderstood what they article is saying.
 
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The only thing is the part about the beta rolling out Monday isn't quoted. So who knows if Sainz meant the beta is coming this week, or specifically Monday
 
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