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iOS 18 Speculation Thread
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After we reached beta 5 next week or 18.1 beta 2 for AI capable devices, its weekly for awhile until beta 8 that is an another 2 weeks to RC. (Going by iOS 16 and iOS 17)
There's the question, since 18.1 is only for including earliest implementation of Apple AI features for developers which will be incomplete, why are we doubting that they won't be synced less the AI?. It's expected that 18.2, 18.3, 18.4 will continue with adding to and readying Apple Intelligence.
Most likely on Monday or Tuesday next week, so on 5-6 August.
I can't see 18.1 being 2 weeks considering it's basically beta 4 with AI and call recording.
I wonder if 18.1 will even be an October release and may actually release in September for the AI capable devices with 18 for the non AI capable.
I’ve had the same thoughts. We may learn more today from the Apple earnings report out. Typically they wouldn’t discuss future products but this may be the exception.
Hope there will be beta 5 on Monday with better battery and lower heat when charging
Or 18.1 will be released for the new iPhones and the 15 Pro (Max) and everyone else will get iOS 18.
Given that 18.1 is for devs only currently, I think new iPhones would be running 18.0 initially for their launch. Then soon after PB testers should be able to get their hands on Apple Intelligence on future beta cycle, unless 18.1 extends into October allowing PB testers.
I don’t think that Apple will continue to work on two parallel iOS variants once iOS 18.0 goes public. At some point they will merge them into one, it is just that the AI part will be inactive on non-supported devices. This is why AI bits are downloadable separately from the main iOS now.
Current iOS 18.1 gives Apple a longer than usual beta cycle, but once it is ready to go public everybody should get it, I guess. Otherwise it will be very confusing to people.
Apple Intelligence Has a Long Way to Go to Match Its Marketing Hype
The first preview of Apple Intelligence for developers shows just how far the company has to go to live up to the hype. Also: Apple reshuffles its design team leadership; expect the iPhone 16 before Apple Intelligence; and the company returns to revenue growth.
www.bloomberg.com
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Seems like if they want to have any chance of it launching in Oct they want to crank out as many betas as possible between now and then. 4 betas for 18.1 at 2 weeks puts them into Oct which doesn't seem like a ton of testing with only 4 betas.
Imagine the cluster that would be if they launch IOS 18 for most devices while some get 18.1. People would be confused and upset they don't have the same version (this isn't a .X.X release where it would make sense only some phones capable of running it are running it.
90% of iPhone users do not even know what a software version is and thus not give a single f* about what their phone is running. 🤣
That is Apple's conundrum. Using the whole 18.1 as a means of separating AI is not what they ultimately want. AI features should be limited within the OS by determined hardware. It's not like iPhones or IPads beyond 18.0 not possessing the hardware requirements really should have a separate build just for them while AI is being developed as new features are added/changed. If they can make a OS run on multiple platforms surely AI can run on only devices that are supported under the same OS versions.
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I’m going with a 40% chance of 18.1 b2 today (Monday) or tomorrow.
The reasonable thing would be to look at the AI requirements, if you meet them for IOS 18.1, if you don't meet them you stay at 18.0 and wait for implementations to arrive.
No. The reasonable thing would be get everyone on 18.1 and those with hardware apple deemed not worthy of AI won't have the switch to turn AI on.
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It has its sense and reason, so I agree with you, friend!!
I believe that the iOS 18.0 and 18.1 betas will go out at the same time until the release of 18.0 in September, at which time the normal 18.1 beta cycle will be enabled for all devices, whether or not they support AI, and then they will add the changes and new features that Apple deems appropriate outside of the AI issue.
What is not known is whether we will receive all the iOS 18.0 betas in equivalence in the current 18.1 cycle.
That is, it seems that the 4v2 beta of iOS 18.0 is the basis of the first beta of 18.1. This week we will receive the 5th beta of iOS 18.0, and it would be interesting to see if we will receive the second beta of iOS 18.1 that should be based on it, or if they will let one more week pass and release the second based on the sixth beta of iOS 18.0.
What is not known is whether we will receive all the iOS 18.0 betas in equivalence in the current 18.1 cycle.
That is, it seems that the 4v2 beta of iOS 18.0 is the basis of the first beta of 18.1. This week we will receive the 5th beta of iOS 18.0, and it would be interesting to see if we will receive the second beta of iOS 18.1 that should be based on it, or if they will let one more week pass and release the second based on the sixth beta of iOS 18.0.
THIS 👆 There is almost no difference between the builds aside from activated AI features. My bet is on today and then weekly betas.
18.0 Beta 5 and 18.1 Beta 1 weren't released at the same time.
I think they'll alternate between this week and next weekend with 18.0 and 18.1. And then do a weekly schedule for both, but one on a Monday and the other on a Tuesday.
I think they'll alternate between this week and next weekend with 18.0 and 18.1. And then do a weekly schedule for both, but one on a Monday and the other on a Tuesday.