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iOS 18 Speculation Thread
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Exactly, uncharted waters. It’s quite possible we may not see beta 2 for another 2 weeks. Apple may have released beta 1 just to show investors they are working on ai. A lot of features are missing, may take sometime to add them in.
I would expect soon, even if its isn't in the next 10 mins (1PM PST). Why well Apple removed the iOS/IPadOS beta 4 listing that remained yesterday today, but we still have no listings for iOS/IPadOS/MacOS 18.1 and 15.1 seeds at all. That suggest imminent not next week. New version of Xcode released today. The todays PB was same build I bet as Monday seeds..
I believe this means Tim has to release beta 2 lol.
Two interesting articles even if Mac oriented
www.macrumors.com
9to5mac.com
This related to understanding how AI works and why iOS/IPadOS is more of a problem for Apple to deal with the EU for example.
Apple's Hidden AI Prompts Discovered in macOS Beta
Some of the prompts used to direct Apple Intelligence reveal how Apple is attempting to avoid hallucinations and ensure accuracy in its AI features. ...
www.macrumors.com
Apple Intelligence may come to EU after all…but only for Mac - 9to5Mac
Apple Intelligence is one of the biggest tentpoles of this fall’s new OS updates. The AI features in iOS 18.1,...
9to5mac.com
This related to understanding how AI works and why iOS/IPadOS is more of a problem for Apple to deal with the EU for example.
Of course it would have all the same bugs that existed at the point the 18.1 branch was created, but that's not the same as 18.1b1 being "just" 18.0b4 plus an AI config flag enabled.
Unless you have access to Apple's iOS source code repositories that you're not telling us about and have run diffs between the commits made for 18.0b4 and 18.1b1, your assertion remains pure speculation — the same as virtually every other assertion made in this thread, mine included.
I could be wrong, but wasn’t the build number for 18.0 Beta 4 a higher build than 18.1 Beta 1? So, therefore it’s not B4 with AI added in.
Tho I’m going from memory on the build numbers, so correct me if I’m wrong.
You can't necessarily directly compare build numbers for different versions like that. Each build number is a combination of four distinct parts (using 18.0b5, build 22A5316k, as an example):
- The first part, 22, is the sequential major release of the operating system using an internal counter that is distinct from the 'public' version number (i.e., iOS 18 is technically the 22nd version of the iOS code since the original release)
- The second part, A, is the first minor version of this release (which corresponds to 18.0); this is incremented for each X.1 update (so 18.1 is 22B, 18.2 will be 22C, etc)
- The third part, 5316, is the sequential build number within the specified major and minor release branch, which may not continue the numerical sequence from the previous branch(i.e., the count may reset for each new minor version)
- This portion is, itself, composed of two separate parts for non-release builds — the first digit specifies the chipset architecture the build is intended for, and the remaining digits are the actual sequential build number; release/production builds omit the architecture digit and are generally only 2 or 3 digits
- The fourth part, k, represents the number of times the build had to be processed by the build system (without actual code changes) before it was completed successfully — this is generally resolving issues with compilation settings and build system configuration rather than fixing bugs in the source code itself, which would require an entirely new build
- This portion is also omitted from release/production builds
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It makes sense to think that the first beta of iOS 18.1 is equivalent to beta 4 of iOS 18.0, although I think its development, or compilation, is based on an intermediate code between beta 3 and 4. The keyboard with 4 rows of larger emojis is what makes me think about it, and that in the change to the previous display, the recent emojis were broken, although apparently in iOS 18.1 it was not finalized and we are left with both things haha
And I think this because in the fifth beta they only fixed the recent emojis, the emojis are still shown as always.
And I think this because in the fifth beta they only fixed the recent emojis, the emojis are still shown as always.
I don't think the two builds tell you anything about the similarity between the two beta cycles of whats bundled.
In the comparison of versions of Safari, Darwin Kernel, FW, its was all the same between MacOS 15.0 beta 4 and MacOS 15.1 beta with AI. The Darwin kernel was only a day different.
Look at the following post to see how build numbers don't mean that much differences.
They just released Xcode 16 beta 5 so still fingers crossed for iOS 18.1 beta 2 today 
If it is to show the benefits of AI to its investors, it will only be those who are outside the EU, and also IOS 18.1 has some flaws that to stabilize the version, it would be convenient to make updates every week and when they are not so annoying do them every time they estimate, but I think they should launch an early beta.
This convinces me, yesterday they released the Xcode, today the 18.1 x update, I'm with you brother!!They just released Xcode 16 beta 5 so still fingers crossed for iOS 18.1 beta 2 today
See yall next week. It’s not coming this week.
Still, I’m baffled they’d remove the IPSW and make the first beta unsigned.
Still, I’m baffled they’d remove the IPSW and make the first beta unsigned.
Well, maybe tomorrow, or Friday? 🤔 Anyway, it’s going to be a BANGER!
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I’m hopeless 😔😂 I’d rather I accept that it’ll be Monday or Tuesday instead of 2 more days of disappointment lmao