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lagwagon

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After a reboot yesterday evening, Proactive Search started working for me. I don't know if it's a glitch or intentional, but Siri Suggestions now shows part of a third row of apps, I guess as a visual cue that there's more info to display.

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That's just a visual bug that started with DP 4 and PB 2. It's only supposed to show the first four app and you use the "show more" on the top right of that panel to expand to 8 apps. Mine randomly showed like that after about half a day on DP 4 and reboot fixed it back for me.
 

MrGuder

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So I think I found a bug with the music app. I noticed a massive battery drain when listening to music, and my phone began heating up. The songs were those that were stored locally. I turned off 'use cellular data' in settings, and the drain stopped. The phone cooled down.

It seems as if the music app defaults to streaming even though you have the songs stored locally.
yeah someone else mentioned that because I turned cellular off a few weeks ago and it helps a lot for me since all my music is Local and I have Apple Music turned off too.
 

stusgt67

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It would be a nice addition if they added a button in the App Switcher to go back to the home screen. For example you're in an app, you open the App Sw
So I think I found a bug with the music app. I noticed a massive battery drain when listening to music, and my phone began heating up. The songs were those that were stored locally. I turned off 'use cellular data' in settings, and the drain stopped. The phone cooled down.

It seems as if the music app defaults to streaming even though you have the songs stored locally.
So....the Music App isn't fixed in beta 4... :( I haven't used it much. Been using PB 2 a lot and not noticed the massive slow down anymore on the iPad Air 2. I have Apple Music enabled with iCloud Music Libary. I use the Music App quite a lot on the iPhone 6 Plus on iOS 8.4.
 
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VSMacOne

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That's just a visual bug that started with DP 4 and PB 2. It's only supposed to show the first four app and you use the "show more" on the top right of that panel to expand to 8 apps. Mine randomly showed like that after about half a day on DP 4 and reboot fixed it back for me.
Yup. A reboot made it go away.
 

lagwagon

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So I think I found a bug with the music app. I noticed a massive battery drain when listening to music, and my phone began heating up. The songs were those that were stored locally. I turned off 'use cellular data' in settings, and the drain stopped. The phone cooled down.

It seems as if the music app defaults to streaming even though you have the songs stored locally.

Pretty sure it doesn't default to stream when you have it locally on the phone. The music app will check many times to their server whenever you navigate around. You go to X artist to listen to something. It checks that artists it fetches all info it needs in the "all" tab and also down below an album for the "more by X artist" and "you may also like". Because of all that it's always doing something and why it can get hot if you're bouncing around the music app a lot.

If you just start playing a playlist or whatever that is locally and turn off the screen it won't get hot or even use much battery. (I literally had it use 0% last Friday while on a 45-50 minute train ride. Started with 96% and ended with 96%. Music playing the whole time with the stock Apple EarPods and around 60% volume. Screen off, So no skipping tracks and bouncing around the app was done. Though I did quickly check email twice, but that was it.)
 

ryankidd17

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Pretty sure it doesn't default to stream when you have it locally on the phone. The music app will check many times to their server whenever you navigate around. You go to X artist to listen to something. It checks that artists it fetches all info it needs in the "all" tab and also down below an album for the "more by X artist" and "you may also like". Because of all that it's always doing something and why it can get hot if you're bouncing around the music app a lot.

If you just start playing a playlist or whatever that is locally and turn off the screen it won't get hot or even use much battery. (I literally had it use 0% last Friday while on a 45-50 minute train ride. Started with 96% and ended with 96%. Music playing the whole time with the stock Apple EarPods and around 60% volume. Screen off, So no skipping tracks and bouncing around the app was done. Though I did quickly check email twice, but that was it.)

When I play music, I just put the app in the background, screen off and just listen. My data usage shot up doing that period and I have been doing nothing with the phone other than have local music playing. Only when I turn off cellular data usage, the issue is resolved.

It may not be streaming, but it definitely is triggering massive data usage in the background
 

lagwagon

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When I play music, I just put the app in the background, screen off and just listen. My data usage shot up doing that period and I have been doing nothing with the phone other than have local music playing. Only when I turn off cellular data usage, the issue is resolved.

It may not be streaming, but it definitely is triggering massive data usage in the background

Do you have "show music available offline" toggled to on? Perhaps you had some music not offline in the mix? (If you had it turned off) I'm only asking because I don't see any abnormal data usage in mine.
 

ryankidd17

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Do you have "show music available offline" toggled to on? Perhaps you had some music not offline in the mix? (If you had it turned off) I'm only asking because I don't see any abnormal data usage in mine.

Yeah. Only had offline music displayed. I think I'll try to either do a reset all settings or a fresh install and see if that helps the situation.
 

Michael Goff

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Is anyone else having an issue where the bottom of the podcast app (the tabs) end up disappearing into a pure white bar? Because I am, and the only way to fix it is to close it and open it again.
 

tomtad

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What's the point of siri suggestions? It seems like a gamble of what you need will actually be there....

It seems to make more sense when you drag the search bar down, earlier I went to search for Lloyds Bank app and it showed up as a suggestion before I typed which was great. The whole Proactive screen to the left seems a bit superfluous to me and could be easily be incorporated into Notifications Centre.
 

Dmooney9

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The icons move down like they should on the 6+ to reach top of screen but I have a 6. And they stay down until cold start.
 

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0000757

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I'm sorry, my car doesn't have USB. Cars you rent at Hertz might not have USB.

I went through 6 cars at Enterprise before finding one with USB/Bluetooth support, and I booked mid sedan class.

Can you think outside of your box?

That's actually really weird and also semi-unbelievable, as pretty much all the auto manufacturers have offered at minimum an AUX jack as standard since the early-mid 2000s. Heck, I've seen 90s Chevys and Dodges with AUX jacks, and my Toyota Yaris has built-in Bluetooth, AUX, and USB as standard (and power windows, a tachometer, steering wheel controls, cruise control, and locks were optional).
 
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ryankidd17

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I tried it out on my phone to see the bug. It lets you choose "none" but everything else crashes. Now I'm stuck with "none" for emails until hopefully the next build haha. Oh well.

I did exactly that in my testing of this bug. Had to reset all settings to fix it. Haha.
 

lagwagon

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I did exactly that in my testing of this bug. Had to reset all settings to fix it. Haha.

I would do the same except I have all custom sounds for all mine (mostly Mario and Zelda sounds) and a reset all settings would cause me to lose all of that. I still get vibrate for emails, so it's not a big deal to put up with until it's fixed.
 

Traverse

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Can you customize the bottom bar of the Music app yet? Can I put "Artists" and "Songs" back on the bottom instead of having them crammed in "My Music"
 

torukawahata

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I think it all along has been. But they screwed up the translucency this time round. It's more grainy. So I think it's a bug hence you're noticing it more now.
Yes, it was translucent before, but now it's more noticeable! Looks closer to Mac OS. As you stated it is about grainier though
 

imagineadam

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So I see that it's listed that iCloud backups cannot be deleted... Could this be why some of my iCloud space is being used up by some "ghost" data that isn't being shown? I was on the beta for a little while and I'm pretty sure my iPhone probably backed up automatically a time or two. I am back on 8.4 and have been for awhile and I deleted my backup so it should show 5GB free but it's showing 2.9 available but there is nothing on iCloud?! Could this be my iOS 9 beta backup using that space?!? Will I ever be able to get it back and freed up? I'm guessing a lot of people are probably having this problem and don't know it. Anyway to actually clear the iCloud storage that you guys know of? Thanks!
 

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Yun0

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So I see that it's listed that iCloud backups cannot be deleted... Could this be why some of my iCloud space is being used up by some "ghost" data that isn't being shown? I was on the beta for a little while and I'm pretty sure my iPhone probably backed up automatically a time or two. I am back on 8.4 and have been for awhile and I deleted my backup so it should show 5GB free but it's showing 2.9 available but there is nothing on iCloud?! Could this be my iOS 9 beta backup using that space?!? Will I ever be able to get it back and freed up? I'm guessing a lot of people are probably having this problem and don't know it. Anyway to actually clear the iCloud storage that you guys know of? Thanks!


install icloud control panel for windows (if ur on windows, if on mac, idk sorry) & delete the icloud backups that way, ios should then see all the space freed up, then manually start a new ios 9 backup, should be fine after that & not exponential space usage anymore, at least for me. i deleted all icloud backups even ios 8 ones, as ios 9 is good enough for me to keep using it constantly till release
 
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