iOS 9.2 (Beta 1) Bug Fixes, Changes and Performance Adjustments

[minato21]

Anyone running 9.2 on a 5s? How does it handle? Faster than 9.1?

 

[Blaster13]

I am invested in Android,iOS and Windows 10 mobile.Bulk of my purchases are on the App Store so the iPhone and iPad will continue to stick around,just won't be my daily drivers.That spot (unless Apple fixes the lag) is reserved for Nexus 6P or Galaxy S7

So what your saying is android has no lag or stutter at all.... Can't believe that for a second

 

[GCHASE1995]

Anyone running 9.2 on a 5s? How does it handle? Faster than 9.1?

I'm running it on my 5s. Everything seems smoother and more responsive

 

[canesalato]

I think a lot of people have short memories when it comes to iOS and "lag". I've seen a few people comment about Steve not standing for this and that, but he presided over the worst case of iOS lag I have ever witnessed when iOS 4 turned the iPhone 3G into an absolute wreck.

That remains possibly the most unusable I've ever seen an iOS device become after an update. It was unbelievable.

I agree. But the iPhone 3g was a really miserable device in terms processing power and RAM. The iPad Air2 is almost on par with a 2013 MacBook Air. It's faster than a 2015 Retina MB. Lag should not be there.

 

[Imory]

Well, what I meant by what I said was in reference to people checking if it's there for them or not. Sure, we've established that stutters occur, we've also established that, as you mentioned, plenty of people don't even really see them, and many of those that do essentially ignore them. So, from the point of view of asking people about them, whether or not the lag actually exists for everyone or not, the responses will come from those people's perception of it, meaning that various people can still say that there isn't any when there might still be for someone else.

Again, my point was not to say it's not worthy of discussion, as I mentioned earlier, but that discussions are still based on perceptions and those still differ so various answers to those types of questions might not really be something that will hold up for everyone necessarily. The subjective nature of the perception and the inconsistencies and variabilities of it all is mainly what I was (perhaps indirectly) referencing.

Fair enough.

 

[Imory]

Can I just say everyone's experience is going to be different. Your all taking this lag way to over the top..... If you ain't happy go to android it's lag free

It most likely isn't different. You might not notice it, or simply not care. We all use the same hardware and software, not to mention that they way iOS is constructed by sandboxing everything, I thoroughly doubt the experience would be widely different for most of us.

 

[Merkie]

Oh no the tragedy, a few millisecond lag/a frame drop on a 2 generation old device now.

This is where the "boring" lag posts come from. People like stulaw11 who think they are in a position to tell other people if their issue is serious or not. Very arrogant, I genuinely wish people like him did not exist.

Why the need to downplay this issue? The iPhone is the most expensive phone in the world. Yeah, you can ask perfection. The iPhone 6 (only 1 year old) performs far worse on iOS 9 than iOS 8. That is inexcusable.

I've never seen any official statement iOS9 guaranteed performance improvements across the entire iPhone lineup used out there- especially older devices. If you can't afford a device after 2 years then you deal with the few millisecond lag.

This made me throw up. Did you really just say that people who don't have the money to buy a new device should just cope with the lag? This is just awful.

This is common sense with tech- the older stuff doesnt run as well. My old Dell XPS laptop from 5 years ago (top of the line then) runs nothing like the Yoga I bought in December- 10 times slower/laggy. I didnt throw a fit though, I knew it was old and outdated and wasnt going to run as smooth as a newer model. Yes I get it's older then a 6S to 5/5S, but same principle on a smaller scale of lag.

This is not the same principle, it's a completely different scenario. Please try to think for a second. Nobody is saying that it's weird that new hardware is faster than older hardware. What we're saying is that it's weird that a new software version without any visual changes runs significantly worse for no reason at all. The Control Center in iOS 9 is exactly the same Control Center as in iOS 8, yet the frame rate is halved.

You're literally talking complaining about milliseconds of stuttering and a frame or 2 in a total fraction of a second animation in the scheme of the world here (STILL on a 2 year old model). life as we know it IS over.

This lag complaining has just gotten to be way too much around here. When I see a REAL issue like really bad hanging/freezing then I will be concerned.

Nobody says life as we know it is over. I'm just saying that for the most expensive phone in the world, it is not too much ask for our phones not to run worse without any reason at all.

And also, please get off your moral high ground and keep those stupid rolleyes to yourself.

There is a real lag issue with iOS 9, a lot of people notice it. Accept that there is an issue and now please go on with your life. Absolutely no need to be so condescending.

 

[Blaster13]

It

It most likely isn't different. You might not notice it, or simply not care. We all use the same hardware and software, not to mention that they way iOS is constructed by sandboxing everything, I thoroughly doubt the experience would be widely different for most of us.

clearly is as not everyone is experiencing it....

 

[Radon87000]

So what your saying is android has no lag or stutter at all.... Can't believe that for a second

You should use stock Android devices like the Nexus.They are all bloat free,get updates just like iOS and as far as Nexus 6P is concerned it's 60FPS smooth.My Nexus 5 does have lag and stutter but unlike my iPhone,on Android the lag isn't consistent,meaning,you won't encounter lag in the same place consistently.
But the real kicker is I can downgrade my Nexus to the version of Android it shipped with,thereby,making it as good as new when it ran at 60fps

 

[RebornProphet]

I agree. But the iPhone 3g was a really miserable device in terms processing power and RAM. The iPad Air2 is almost on par with a 2013 MacBook Air. It's faster than a 2015 Retina MB. Lag should not be there.

The only lag on the Air 2 is when you tap the home screen "card" on the App Switcher and the home screen zooms in to fill the screen. There is a little stutter during the zoom in animation, that's it.

The only other area I've seen an issue is when rotating the device while using the Music app, it's not as smooth as elsewhere. Other than that it's absolutely fine.

 

[Blaster13]

You should use stock Android devices like the Nexus.They are all bloat free,get updates just like iOS and as far as Nexus 6P is concerned it's 60FPS smooth.My Nexus 5 does have lag and stutter but unlike my iPhone,on Android the lag isn't consistent,meaning,you won't encounter lag in the same place consistently.
But the real kicker is I can downgrade my Nexus to the version of Android it shipped with,thereby,making it as good as new when it ran at 60fps

I don't get why so many ppl have issues with lag/stutter. Iv not see any on my 6 as of yet. Iv used android stock and bloated and for me it was laggy I went straight back to iOS.

 

[Merkie]

Behave yourself. If you're seriously saying that your iPhone 6 on iOS 9 performs the same way your iPhone 4 did in 2014 (on iOS 8 I presume) then you're talking absolute nonsense. That kind of talk is beyond ridiculous and does nothing but scaremonger.

My Father in Law has an iPhone 4 on iOS 8, I used it only last week to help set up his iCloud account on it. Trust me, you've either got a very wayward memory or you're just trash talking for the sake of it.

Apparently you are illiterate because that is totally NOT what he said. He said that the performance of iOS 9 on his iPhone 6 reminds him at times of his old iPhone 4 on iOS 7.

The iPhone 6 on iOS 9 performs similar to the iPhone 4 on iOS 8.
The performance of my iPhone 6 on iOS 9 at times reminds me of my old iPhone 4.

Completely different sentences.

Also, iOS 8 was never released for the iPhone 4, so apparently you don't know anything. Please refrain from responding until you actually know what you're talking about.

 

[Merkie]

Know what posts really get me? The ones that go something like this (and there's been a few):

"Open a folder, twirl your device twice anti clockwise, double tap the home button, twirl your device clockwise three times, triple tap the home button, throw your phone in the air like you just don't care, go back to the folder, tap the home button ... SEE IT!? SEE THAT LAG!?! UNACCEPTABLE!!!"

Give me strength.

No one is doing that. What people are doing is:

Draw up the Control Center. See the lag. Use the phone. See lag everywhere. If issues were really concentrated to very specific use cases, people wouldn't be complaining so much. Is that really so hard to understand?

Is it possible some people are mistaking the little "bounce" at the end of the CC animation for lag?

No. I made a side-by-side video (iPhone 5 on the left, 5s on the right). You can clearly see that the animation on the 5s simply drops a lot more frames than the 5.

 

[RebornProphet]

Apparently you are illiterate because that is totally NOT what he said. He said that the performance of iOS 9 on his iPhone 6 reminds him at times of his old iPhone 4 on iOS 7.

The iPhone 6 on iOS 9 performs similar to the iPhone 4 on iOS 8.
The performance of my iPhone 6 on iOS 9 at times reminds me of my old iPhone 4.

Completely different sentences.

Also, iOS 8 was never released for the iPhone 4, so apparently you don't know anything. Please refrain from responding until you actually know what you're talking about.

The biggest irony here is your self moderating the forum telling people to et off their high horses, when the biggest and most arrogant attitude on show here is yours. Sorry for my minor lapse when mentioning iOS 8 on the iPhone 4, I'm currently relaxing on a beach in Lanzarote so blame the sun ... trust me, I more than know what I'm talking about.

Your attitude and tone have been reported, because if I responded to you how I normally would to jumped up folk like you, I'd be banned.

 

[Radon87000]

I don't get why so many ppl have issues with lag/stutter. Iv not see any on my 6 as of yet. Iv used android stock and bloated and for me it was laggy I went straight back to iOS.

1.Swipe up the control centre from lock screen
2.Swipe down for spotlight has horrible lag
3.Swipe left on home screen to spotlight,than swipe up the control centre.The background icons show stuttery animation
4.Quick reply is a real pain in the ass.the drag down animation looks like it's at 20 fps.Heck the outline of they keyboard draws itself before the letters are visible.So I stopped using quick reply altogether
5.In Settings,when you tap on TouchID the passcode screen has a stutter when it comes up
6.On Air 2 with 3 or more apps open when you open and close the app switcher there is stuttering
7.In settings mobile data scrolling down the list of apps who downloaded data is laggy
8.Sometimes the icons on the home screen randomly stutter for no reason

Solution to all of above:
When I turn on Reduce Motion and Transparency,both of my devices race along like a jet

 

[Merkie]

The biggest irony here is your self moderating the forum telling people to et off their high horses, when the biggest and most arrogant attitude on show here is yours. Sorry for my minor lapse when mentioning iOS 8 on the iPhone 4, I'm currently relaxing on a beach in Lanzarote so blame the sun ... trust me, I more than know what I'm talking about.

Your attitude and tone have been reported, because if I responded to you how I normally would to jumped up folk like you, I'd be banned.

I disagree.

 

[RebornProphet]

No one is doing that. What people are doing is:

Draw up the Control Center. See the lag. Use the phone. See lag everywhere. If issues were really concentrated to very specific use cases, people wouldn't be complaining so much. Is that really so hard to understand? Please try to think or leave the alcohol next time.

Alcohol? Don't drink pal.

And it's hilarious how wound up you're getting, running round quoting and replying to everyone who dares to question your opinion.

Get a grip.

 

[Radon87000]

The only lag on the Air 2 is when you tap the home screen "card" on the App Switcher and the home screen zooms in to fill the screen. There is a little stutter during the zoom in animation, that's it.

The only other area I've seen an issue is when rotating the device while using the Music app, it's not as smooth as elsewhere. Other than that it's absolutely fine.

Why do I think that stutter on the App Switcher will never be fixed and the iPad Pro will be at 60fps on the same spot?

If the Air 2 has that much laG,I can't imagine how the Air 1 must be faring at the same spot

 

[canesalato]

The only lag on the Air 2 is when you tap the home screen "card" on the App Switcher and the home screen zooms in to fill the screen. There is a little stutter during the zoom in animation, that's it.

The only other area I've seen an issue is when rotating the device while using the Music app, it's not as smooth as elsewhere. Other than that it's absolutely fine.

I also get lag everytime I rotate the screen with the keyboard on. including here, as i am writing this post.
And when I press the book icon in safari for the first time.
And when i pull down on the home screen for spotlight (very visible).
And when I call the new multitasking splitview selector if the keyboard is on the screen, swiping from the right (lags every single time as I write this post).
And when quick-replying a message.
And in many other places

 

[Baby12]

The interesting thing is that iOS 9.2 runs pretty well on older devices like iPhone 5C. There's no lags really.

 

[canesalato]

The interesting thing is that iOS 9.2 runs pretty well on older devices like iPhone 5C. There's no lags really.

Yep, we are all hoping that metal is still being optimized and that future will bring improvements. Don't know if we'll have to wait for iOS10

 

[RebornProphet]

Why do I think that stutter on the App Switcher will never be fixed and the iPad Pro will be at 60fps on the same spot?

If the Air 2 has that much laG,I can't imagine how the Air 1 must be faring at the same spot

To be fair, the iPad Pro is probably going to score in the 8,000's for multi core on Geekbench. If it lagged anywhere then you can safely point at a lack of software optimisation, but then Apple's software in general has been pretty poor since Federighi took over.

 

[Merkie]

The interesting thing is that iOS 9.2 runs pretty well on older devices like iPhone 5C. There's no lags really.

The biggest mystery of all indeed.

 

[pacorob]

The interesting thing is that iOS 9.2 runs pretty well on older devices like iPhone 5C. There's no lags really.

Have you tried out 3rd party keyboards like Swype or Swiftkey especially when you do a Spotlight search (swipe down gesture) does it still stutter/lag when showing the actual 3rd party keyboard? I have major lag/stutter with my iPad mini2 since iOS9 and still with 9.1. The lag is less with my 5s but also there.

 

[Imory]

It

clearly is as not everyone is experiencing it....

The reason for that would be that most don't notice it. They can't perceive it.