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Merkie

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Iv seen threads regarding iOS 8 and the point upgrades after being laggy. Same with iOS 7z. So it's not just specific to iOS 9. It seems to come around every year with the same people all time. Obviously if my phone was bad like some of you guys it would bother me but tbf it ain't at all. It's pretty smooth responsive fast only seen 2 bugs 1 in YouTube and 1 in weather app. Battery is near same as before 10+hours.
If you don't notice or you don't think the issue is big or whatever, that's ok. You don't need to explain yourself.
Sure, other OS versions had issues as well. However, this specific issue didn't exist on iOS 8 and does on iOS 9. Not every issue with the same keywords is exactly the same as the other.
 

Blaster13

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If you don't notice or you don't think the issue is big or whatever, that's ok. You don't need to explain yourself.
I just don't think it's a massive problem as these posts are making out it is. If I slow my video I made right down I can see lag in it then. It do's not affect any aspect of my device for daily use or for games so not a problem for me.
 
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Merkie

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I just don't think it's a massive problem as these posts are making out it is. If I slow my video I made right down I can see lag in it then. It do's not affect any aspect of my device for daily use or for games so not a problem for me.
As I said, that's fine. Different people have different standards.
 

stooovie

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Every year we keep on posting bugs bugs and bugs for every iOS update and by the time it becomes stable Apple gives us another new major iOS update!!
I hate this yearly update cycle.

I do too but we don't actually have to update as soon as it drops. If we update mid-cycle (I.e. X.2.0 or later) we should be good.
 

crashoverride77

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On my 5S iOS 9.1, I get stutter if I bring up control center. I comes up smoothly but once it has slid past 50% of the screen, it starts to drop frames. But if I slide it up fast, then it comes up at 15-20 fps. Looks horrible and androidy.

Is this specific scenario fixed?

I don't expect them to fix app switcher stutter in any of the devices. That smoothness of 60 fps is reserved only for iPad Pro.

Every year they will purposely leave 1-2 animations stuttery. That gives us something to look forward to next year's iOS release. Like the weather app.

Yeah because alienating your costumers by "artificially slowing down devices" makes so much sense.
Some of you guys would be great business man.
 

I7guy

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I agree. Perhaps people should stop the denial. Why is it that everyone can have any issue, but whenever that you say that your phone lags you suddenly have to testitfy in front of the Supreme Court.
Just the reality of claiming there is no lag also. Proof is required because there couldn't possibly be an idevice without lag on iOS 9.
 

Merkie

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Just the reality of claiming there is no lag also. Proof is required because there couldn't possibly be an idevice without lag on iOS 9.
It's just a bit odd to for several reasons I don't feel like discussing now.
 

stulaw11

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The point was start a new thread for each beta about lag. I doubt any mod would take issue with that. It seriously clogs up these beta threads and people can't even report bugs or fixes in between the 15 posts on lag. Lag is subjective, period.

Just go create a 9.2 Beta 1 lag thread and take it all there. Leave this thread for what the title says- bug fixes and changes. So people can, you know, actually discuss what is in the new betas that's still a bug or fixed so everyone can know.

It's not helping anyone in this community with probably 12 of the 15 pages about lag/no lag debating and you can't find any relevant info on the beta itself.

It's SUPER frustrating to come here trying to determine if 9.2 is "ok" to install and have to sift through just pages and pages of useless junk lag posts that occur in EVERY beta that comes out.
 

crashoverride77

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YouTube bug was app orientated not iOS they patched it with update this week....

Yay now if they could only make the app decent again.
I mean nobody at Google must have used the new app and did like 10-20 searches and than tried going back home. You either have to close the app and reopen it or you click the back button 10-20 times.
Let's not even talk about the fact that it's still one of the only video apps that doesn't have a volume scroller. Oh and the new subscribed sections is so great that I need a magnifying glass and photographic memory to figure out which logo belongs to which subscriber.
Oh and that material design is hideous.
 

Blaster13

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Yay now if they could only make the app decent again.
I mean nobody at Google must have used the new app and did like 10-20 searches and than tried going back home. You either have to close the app and reopen it or you click the back button 10-20 times.
Let's not even talk about the fact that it's still one of the only video apps that doesn't have a volume scroller. Oh and the new subscribed sections is so great that I need a magnifying glass and photographic memory to figure out which logo belongs to which subscriber.
Oh and that material design is hideous.
Only use YouTube on my Mac. I have YouTube kids for little one on my phone. And I most certainly won't line googles pockets subscribing to YouTube ever.
 

Act3

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Coming from android devices, I think lag/stutter is pretty much non existent in iOS 9.

Wish I could say the same coming from a device running 8.4.1 or should I say I compare devices daily.... Maybe I wouldn't "perceive" it on my air 2 if I put 9.1 on my phone.
 

tdar

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The reason for that would be that most don't notice it. They can't perceive it.
Correct. So how much $$, time and energy of already taxed iOS developers should be spent on something that most people can not perceive. I might add how much of our time here as well. We have over 10 pages now of people arguing over something that most people can't even see. Seems like a waste of time to me.

Note to the Haters: Save it I don't need to hear what you have to say. Please do not clog up our beta thread with that.
 

tdar

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The point was start a new thread for each beta about lag. I doubt any mod would take issue with that. It seriously clogs up these beta threads and people can't even report bugs or fixes in between the 15 posts on lag. Lag is subjective, period.

Just go create a 9.2 Beta 1 lag thread and take it all there. Leave this thread for what the title says- bug fixes and changes. So people can, you know, actually discuss what is in the new betas that's still a bug or fixed so everyone can know.

It's not helping anyone in this community with probably 12 of the 15 pages about lag/no lag debating and you can't find any relevant info on the beta itself.

It's SUPER frustrating to come here trying to determine if 9.2 is "ok" to install and have to sift through just pages and pages of useless junk lag posts that occur in EVERY beta that comes out.
This- Fully- completely!
 
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crashoverride77

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Only use YouTube on my Mac. I have YouTube kids for little one on my phone. And I most certainly won't line googles pockets subscribing to YouTube ever.

Yeah it's not even about subscribing, it's the simple fact the the YouTube app was terrible in all areas. Now with material design it is even worse. The biggest media player/video site run by one of the biggest companies in the world has literally the worst video app ever made. I swear developers these days don't test anything. For Christ sake the video controls are in white only, which means if you watch a video with white background you cannot see them at all.
I would also love for some Google developer to tell me for what mysterious reasons they don't like volume scrollers.
 

crashoverride77

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Wish I could say the same coming from a device running 8.4.1 or should I say I compare devices daily.... Maybe I wouldn't "perceive" it on my air 2 if I put 9.1 on my phone.

Really? My air 2 has been running exactly the same as with 8.4.1, minus the spotlight lag or occasional mutitasking stutter. Even 9.1 seems to have got rid of most of the random stutter that could occasionally occur when doing UI navigation like opening folders.Even 7 and 8 did that occasionally.
The worst offender for me is that iOS 9 once again gives animation higher priority than touch input, arghhh. Started with 7,got fixed with 8 and than returned in 9. Pinch to close on iPads therefore again is a pain in the ass.

PiP, mutitasking and safari alone make iOS 9 worthy upgrade still tho. It's not like it crashes all the time or has stability issues, you know like 7 and 8 did for almost all of their life cycle.
I rather take a few more random stutters than ever go back to chaos that was iOS 7.0-7.1 or iOS 8.0-8.4
 
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Act3

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The worst offender for me is that iOS 9 once again gives animation higher priority than touch input, arghhh. Started with 7,got fixed with 8 and than returned in 9. Pinch to close on iPads therefore again is a pain in the ass.

I agree with that. That is what is making my iPhone 6 seem faster and smoother user experience than my air 2. Yes safari is better in 9.1, it was also better on 8.4.1 than the iphone 6 due to the 2 gig of memory in the air 2.

I see quite of bit of stutter/lag when scrolling these forums with the split keyboard open. Fortunately I only have it open when replying but I sometimes scroll around looking for a post to quote.
 

crashoverride77

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I agree with that. That is what is making my iPhone 6 seem faster and smoother user experience than my air 2. Yes safari is better in 9.1, it was also better on 8.4.1 than the iphone 6 due to the 2 gig of memory in the air 2.

I see quite of bit of stutter/lag when scrolling these forums with the split keyboard open. Fortunately I only have it open when replying but I sometimes scroll around looking for a post to quote.

Fair enough, I hardly use split keyboard. I am sure there are still areas where stuff is unoptimized to s**t, cough cough iOS 8 and the weather app. Another example which you can try with 8 is going to settings and safari and than trying to open passwords. The password prompt and keyboard animation lags as bad as spotlight in iOS 9 does.

For me it's Apples (no pun intended lol) and oranges. The one thing that 9 got right out of the box was stability and reliability, this cannot be argued even by the worst haters in this forum. I had zero freezes, resprings, app crashes or reboots with 9. Some of these were almost a daily occurrence when using 7 or 8 for the first half of their respective life cycle.

I think I said this before you know what's the most ironic for me in iOS 9?. It's that split screen and slide over is literally the smoothest thing in iOS in a long long time, while it's also the most resource intensive apart from games. Looks likes its always 60frames, it never stutters or lags on my air 2, even when throwing PiP in the mix. Than 2 minutes later I try to open a folder with 3 apps and all hell brakes loose in regards to stutters and framerate drops.
Lol
 
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Radon87000

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Yeah because alienating your costumers by "artificially slowing down devices" makes so much sense.
Some of you guys would be great business man.
I have invested a lot of $$$ in the App Store.Well over 100$.You cant expect me to just gets hands deep in Android.Apple knows that if they lag out the 6,the consumer will have no choice but to upgrade to 6S
 

Radon87000

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The point was start a new thread for each beta about lag. I doubt any mod would take issue with that. It seriously clogs up these beta threads and people can't even report bugs or fixes in between the 15 posts on lag. Lag is subjective, period.

Just go create a 9.2 Beta 1 lag thread and take it all there. Leave this thread for what the title says- bug fixes and changes. So people can, you know, actually discuss what is in the new betas that's still a bug or fixed so everyone can know.

It's not helping anyone in this community with probably 12 of the 15 pages about lag/no lag debating and you can't find any relevant info on the beta itself.

It's SUPER frustrating to come here trying to determine if 9.2 is "ok" to install and have to sift through just pages and pages of useless junk lag posts that occur in EVERY beta that comes out.
iOS 9 was created to improve performance partly.So yes performance is a VERY big part of each update as its one of the headline feature
 

scjr

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The one thing that 9 got right out of the box was stability and reliability, this cannot be argued even by the worst haters in this forum. I had zero freezes, resprings, app crashes or reboots with 9. Some of these were almost a daily occurrence when using 7 or 8 for the first half of their respective life cycle.

QFT
 

Radon87000

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Really? My air 2 has been running exactly the same as with 8.4.1, minus the spotlight lag or occasional mutitasking stutter. Even 9.1 seems to have got rid of most of the random stutter that could occasionally occur when doing UI navigation like opening folders.Even 7 and 8 did that occasionally.
The worst offender for me is that iOS 9 once again gives animation higher priority than touch input, arghhh. Started with 7,got fixed with 8 and than returned in 9. Pinch to close on iPads therefore again is a pain in the ass.

PiP, mutitasking and safari alone make iOS 9 worthy upgrade still tho. It's not like it crashes all the time or has stability issues, you know like 7 and 8 did for almost all of their life cycle.
I rather take a few more random stutters than ever go back to chaos that was iOS 7.0-7.1 or iOS 8.0-8.4
On the Air 2 there was no lag when using App Switcher.In 9 there is heavy lag when you have 3 or more apps open and you switch between them.Spotlight still stutters
 

sunking101

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I have invested a lot of $$$ in the App Store.Well over 100$.You cant expect me to just gets hands deep in Android.Apple knows that if they lag out the 6,the consumer will have no choice but to upgrade to 6S

That's not much money at all, a couple of cases and a screen protector. I've spent well over $300 on apps and I agree that it kinda ties you into an ecosystem whether you want to leave or not. None of my apps are games or things I could live without, they're utilities I use all the time and I would need to factor purchasing them again into any Android phone swap. Then what happens if I come back to iOS again, it's money down the drain.

Having said all of that, imagine taking the leap and having two ecosystems of apps. You could chop and change phones without any worries! That wouldn't be so bad at all...:D
 
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