iOS 9.2 (Beta 1) Bug Fixes, Changes and Performance Adjustments

[C DM]

No, I'm not twisting anything. Here's your response to me after I pointed out an app switcher bug (which WAS a bug because Apple fixed it):

Your instinct is to damage control. Your first thought was to make an excuse for Apple and suggest it may have been a feature.

The point of the first sentence was to capture the attention of anyone that disagreed with me. I can tell it was certainly effective because that's the only part you can acknowledge. God damn. You still didn't make any statement having anything to do with most of my older post. How about going back and reading all about acceptable frame rates, which was the point of my post in the first place?

I love how you make this an opinionated argument. My narrative? Really? I can measure frame rates objectively. It's an INDISPUTABLE FACT that the iPhone 6s (especially Plus) on iOS 9 has visible frame rate drops in certain situations, going sub-30 FPS. All units. This was not the case for the iPhone 5 on iOS 6. It's not my opinion that the iPhone 6s Plus gets 30 FPS on its 3D Touch menus. However, it is my opinion that performance on the more expensive iPhones should be equal or better than the older or less expensive ones, but you have to be a professional Devil's advocate to disagree with that. Which is what you're telling me. Somehow you think if I pay $100 more for the iPhone 6s Plus, it having substantially lower performance (MEASURED, DOCUMENTED, AND PROVEN) is somehow okay.

If you're still arguing that the performance issues don't even exist, you're wrong. That's because it's not an opinion. Don't give me your theory about certain pieces of hardware being a variable and blah blah blah... NO, THERE ARE PERFORMANCE ISSUES ON THE iPHONE 6S AND 6S PLUS AND IT HAS BEEN PROVEN BY THEIR FRAME RATES COMPARED TO OTHER iPHONES ON DIFFERENT SOFTWARE VERSIONS.

Than you for posting what I actually said where nothing at all was insisted and a simple question was posted. That proves the point of what I said about things getting twisted and goes against what you said I said. Just as I haven't been saying what you keep on claiming I've been saying in the rest of your reply and various other replies.

And with that clear demonstration of what discussions get twisted into when exaggerations, extremes, and absolutes are being used to measure it all, I simply circle back to what I said in my previous reply: that there isn't a worthwhile discussion to be had when everything is viewed through such an "black or white" prism--with basically just an "us vs. them" mentality--that only unnecessarily distorts and twists everything.

 

[thed0g]

My air 2 has been running exactly the same as with 8.4.1, minus the spotlight lag or occasional mutitasking stutter.

Then it's not exactly same is it ?

 

[DoctorKrabs]

Than you for posting what I actually said where nothing at all was insisted and a simple question was posted. That proves the point of what I said about things getting twisted and goes against what you said I said. Just as I haven't been saying what you keep on claiming I've been saying in the rest of your reply and various other replies.

And with that clear demonstration of what discussions get twisted into when exaggerations, extremes, and absolutes are being used to measure it all, I simply circle back to what I said in my previous reply: that there isn't a worthwhile discussion to be had when everything is viewed through such an "black or white" prism--with basically just an "us vs. them" mentality--that only unnecessarily distorts and twists everything.

I'm telling you to have a worthwhile discussion about the facts regarding frame rates but you won't do it. I'll ask you for the third time now to acknowledge my factual argument. I'm the one telling you that it's not a matter of opinion and you're trying to say I'm the one making it "us vs. them". Not only that, you're taking this far off topic and complaining about debating itself rather than debating about Apple's issues. Don't get mad about my responses when you voluntarily got involved by replying to my first post that wasn't a reply to you.

No distortions. Just quotes.

 

[C DM]

I'm telling you to have a worthwhile discussion about the facts regarding frame rates but you won'd do it. I'll ask you for the third time now to acknowledge my factual argument. I'm the one telling you that it's not a matter of opinion and you're trying to say I'm the one making it "us vs. them". Not only that, you're taking this far off topic and complaining about debating itself rather than debating about Apple's issues. Don't get mad about my responses when you voluntarily got involved by replying to my first post that wasn't a reply to you.

No distortions. Just quotes.

There has been no emotion in relation to anything I've been saying (and I certainly haven't been the one bolding or capitalizing things or coming up with something and attributing it to someone else, in an effort to get add emotional emphasis and essentially try to get a rise out of someone). Everything that needs to be said about this has already been said about it many times in other threads that deal with the subject. There's really no point of beating a long dead horse, especially when it all gets repeatedly twisted by various people that want it to fit with what they want it all to say. Not to mention that this really isn't the place to do it either.

 

[juniorspank]

Yes I have. The phone went from 100% to 90% in a matter of minutes, and I got the 6s plus version.
It's now redownloading all 2500 tracks from Apple Music to my device -.-

And geez - it's hot.

Mine has been warm too actually. Did you switch back or are you planning to?

 

[DoctorKrabs]

There's really no point of beating a long dead horse, especially when it all gets repeatedly twisted by various people that want it to fit with what they want it all to say. Not to mention that this really isn't the place to do it either.

Again, there's no twisting of information relating to iOS 9 performance. It's factual. Statistics back it up.
I thought this wasn't the right place for a second. But what's with that poll at the top?

If you want to ignore issues, you should start doing that. Otherwise, you're having a jaded debate.

 

[C DM]

Again, there's no twisting of information relating to iOS 9 performance. It's factual. Statistics back it up.
I thought this wasn't the right place for a second. But what's with that poll at the top?

If you want to ignore issues, you should start doing that. Otherwise, you're having a jaded debate.

And once again everything that was said seems to get ignored or twisted--nothing of what was said in these replies was in relation to iOS performance, but about comments being twisted. Clearly even that is lost. There's no debate or discussion to be had. It all already happened, and anything else that gets brought up seems to be twisted back to something it's not even related to.

As for this being the place, it seems that a number of people have asked for the lag discussion to be in a more appropriate thread (given that there are certainly more than a few of those already anyway), so as not to have it take over this one needlessly overshadowing the discussion of new and changed things in iOS 9.2 beta 1.

 

[happyhippo1337]

Mine has been warm too actually. Did you switch back or are you planning to?

I might have to, it's at 48% already - this is insane

 

[philipyoungg]

To anyone it may concern,

Ignore button happen for a reason. Saves a lot of time and sanity.

 

[februarian]

First impressions on a 6S Plus: Everything started out smooth except that little pesky passcode unlock to home screen animation which stuttered. Then went to check the most obvious places (i.e. app switcher and 3d touch) and was really pleasantly surprised to see that most issues were alleviated.

Checking the app I use most these days (aka Tapatalk) & stuttering seemed hardly improved. Really miss my stutter-free iOS 8 experience that I had on my 6 Plus here! Also, weather & mail app stutters are still present, but it's looking like we're progressing for the first time rather than going down! All in all, 9.2 is good news for stutter complainers!

 

[DoctorKrabs]

And once again everything that was said seems to get ignored or twisted--nothing of what was said in these replies was in relation to iOS performance, but about comments being twisted. Clearly even that is lost. There's no debate or discussion to be had. It all already happened, and anything else that gets brought up seems to be twisted back to something it's not even related to.

Oh. My. God.

You are impossible to debate.

Let's see how many times I have tried to make this about iOS:

I can measure frame rates objectively. It's an INDISPUTABLE FACT that the iPhone 6s (especially Plus) on iOS 9 has visible frame rate drops in certain situations, going sub-30 FPS. All units. This was not the case for the iPhone 5 on iOS 6. It's not my opinion that the iPhone 6s Plus gets 30 FPS on its 3D Touch menus. However, it is my opinion that performance on the more expensive iPhones should be equal or better than the older or less expensive ones, but you have to be a professional Devil's advocate to disagree with that. Which is what you're telling me. Somehow you think if I pay $100 more for the iPhone 6s Plus, it having substantially lower performance (MEASURED, DOCUMENTED, AND PROVEN) is somehow okay.

If you're still arguing that the performance issues don't even exist, you're wrong. That's because it's not an opinion. Don't give me your theory about certain pieces of hardware being a variable and blah blah blah... NO, THERE ARE PERFORMANCE ISSUES ON THE iPHONE 6S AND 6S PLUS AND IT HAS BEEN PROVEN BY THEIR FRAME RATES COMPARED TO OTHER iPHONES ON DIFFERENT SOFTWARE VERSIONS.

I'm telling you to have a worthwhile discussion about the facts regarding frame rates but you won't do it. I'll ask you for the third time now to acknowledge my factual argument. I'm the one telling you that it's not a matter of opinion and you're trying to say I'm the one making it "us vs. them". Not only that, you're taking this far off topic and complaining about debating itself rather than debating about Apple's issues.

Nothing of what YOU said was in relation to iOS performance because you are pathologically refusing to challenge what I actually ask you to talk about. Also, this is all relevant to iOS 9.2 since it hasn't done much yet to fix issues. Notice that I said much, not anything.

 

[philipyoungg]

Oh. My. God.

You are impossible to debate.

Let's see how many times I have tried to make this about iOS:




Nothing of what YOU said was in relation to iOS performance because you are pathologically refusing to challenge what I actually ask you to talk about. Also, this is all relevant to iOS 9.2 since it hasn't done much yet to fix issues. Notice that I said much, not anything.

I can empathize you.
It's like arguing that one friend that don't understand what arguing—as a concept—means. Better save your energy for something worthwhile.

 

[C DM]

Oh. My. God.

You are impossible to debate.

Let's see how many times I have tried to make this about iOS:




Nothing of what YOU said was in relation to iOS performance because you are pathologically refusing to challenge what I actually ask you to talk about. Also, this is all relevant to iOS 9.2 since it hasn't done much yet to fix issues. Notice that I said much, not anything.

It's fairly simple: you are talking about something that I wasn't (and I'm not) talking about in the context of the discussion in this thread. You are trying to engage me in a discussion that wasn't the one I was participating in and that I have no interest in participating in at this point given that all that needed to be said about that particular discussion has already been said plenty of times over and over in other threads that deal with it. Not sure how much more clear all that can be made.

I can empathize you.
It's like arguing that one friend that don't understand what arguing—as a concept—means. Better save your energy for something worthwhile.

It's certainly been time to move on from it all long ago.

 

[scjr]

I installed 9.2 b1 and for my fluidity friends, they are definitely working on optimizing the OS.

iPhone 6 Plus and iPad Air 2. App Switcher is greatly improved and spotlight as well. On the 6+, I can most definitely tell going in and out of the App Switcher. Overall, things feel more smooth and it really feels like they are working out the kinks. There is hope!

I just voted YES in the poll.

 

[curropb]

Can anybody check if these bugs are still present in iOS 9.2?

Smartcover Volume Display iOS 9.1 bug

Unlocking the ipad with the smartcover, the "volume display" is not shown. However, if you turning on your ipad with the on/off button, there is not any issue.

TAPPING INDICATOR KEYBOARD BUG IOS 9.1 (REDUCE TRANSPARENCE ON)

If you "reduce transparence" ON, you don´t see the tapping indicator when you write in a white keyboard. No issues with black keyboard or reduce transparence OFF. This bug is present since ios 8.

Third attempt...

Anybody?

Thanks

 

[sbailey4]

No, I'm not twisting anything. Here's your response to me after I pointed out an app switcher bug (which WAS a bug because Apple fixed it):

Question, are you sure this was a bug that was fixed? I saw your initial post back when and have been trying to see what it was and simply dont have it on iP6 with 9.1. Never saw it on the betas either. So to be clear, you open multitasking and as you scroll you dont see the last icon for whatever app is far left? I see all of them blurred and they clear up as they come to focus. Point is I am not sure this was a 9.2 fix as never saw it in any 9.1 versions. What model device you talking about?

 

[scjr]

Third attempt...

Anybody?

Thanks

I justed tested these two issues. Volume thing working. Keyboard thing not working.

 

[philipyoungg]

I justed tested these two issues and both are working here.

Typing keyboard indicator fixed on "reduce transparency"? At last.

 

[scjr]

Typing keyboard indicator fixed on "reduce transparency"? At last.

Going to have to amend this one.

After trying it more extensively, it's hit or miss with Reduce Transparency ON. Sorry about that.

 

[DoctorKrabs]

Question, are you sure this was a bug that was fixed? I saw your initial post back when and have been trying to see what it was and simply dont have it on iP6 with 9.1. Never saw it on the betas either. So to be clear, you open multitasking and as you scroll you dont see the last icon for whatever app is far left? I see all of them blurred and they clear up as they come to focus. Point is I am not sure this was a 9.2 fix as never saw it in any 9.1 versions. What model device you talking about?

It was before moving. If you didn't scroll at all, the icon wouldn't be there until bring it closer up. Then it would stay afterwards.

 

[sbailey4]

It was before moving. If you didn't scroll at all, the icon wouldn't be there until bring it closer up. Then it would stay afterwards.

Yep I see it now. just the last one then once start scrolling they all come in. Wow would not have thought that would be a "bug" as that app is way off anyway and really not ready to be seen. So doesn't do that now with 9.2?

 

[Ashin]

Any Apple realists tried iOS9.2?

People who actually have a sensitive eye for FPS dips/stutter... how is it? I can't be bothered to try it as I imagine it's still as bad as iOS9.1 is.

 

[scjr]

Any Apple realists tried iOS9.2?

People who actually have a sensitive eye for FPS dips/stutter... how is it? I can't be bothered to try it as I imagine it's still as bad as iOS9.1 is.

Realists?

If you're sensitive to any kind fps dips, then 9.2 is not perfect. There is no fluidity utopia just yet.

It is much, much better on my 6+, especially the App Switcher.

 

[PNutts]

Yes I have. The phone went from 100% to 90% in a matter of minutes, and I got the 6s plus version.
It's now redownloading all 2500 tracks from Apple Music to my device -.-

And geez - it's hot.

Yeah, that's why I hesitate with Betas these days. Besides little problems I don't want to damage the phone.

 

[duffman9000]

I installed 9.2 b1 and for my fluidity friends, they are definitely working on optimizing the OS.

iPhone 6 Plus and iPad Air 2. App Switcher is greatly improved and spotlight as well. On the 6+, I can most definitely tell going in and out of the App Switcher. Overall, things feel more smooth and it really feels like they are working out the kinks. There is hope!

I just voted YES in the poll.

In an early iOS 8 beta IIRC the app switcher emphasized touch vs animation. You could select an app before an animation finished. It was awesome to use.

This beta definitely has a better app switcher but still not as responsive as that early beta.