iOS 9.2 (Beta 1) Bug Fixes, Changes and Performance Adjustments

[Blaster13]

Lol funny thing is my Lumia 820 from 2012 could do Live Photos yet my 6 cannot

It runs perfect so it's not hardware issue as to why it can't be on in future.

 

[canesalato]

It runs perfect so it's not hardware issue as to why it can't be on in future.

IMHO it's a business problem. They invested too much marketing effort in this thing. I think the commercial also says something like: the new iPhone 6s camera can take live photos, the only thing that changed is everything blabla. It's about money. I hope for all the 6 users that you are right, but if I had to bet...mmm

 

[Pr4Hb4ri]

Can someone please check whether these 2 bugs have been fixed or not?

1- You hear other notifications sound while you are receiving a call and the phone is ringing if you get notifications from other apps.

2- During a call when you press the home button and the call screen transfers into a green bar at the top if you try to type something with a third party keyboard the lower part of the keyboard doesn't show up.

 

[GIZBUG]

So the point of that first sentence was basically nothing then? Why include it then, and as a leading sentence too? No need to answer though, they are rhetorical questions given that the answers are fairly clear.

As for the edit, where exactly did I insist on something? Perhaps you just like to twist things into extremes that you like to fit your narrative instead of actually taking them as they are? Seems like you basically admitted to doing all of that with all that hyperbole talk.

Not sure there's anything more to say there given that you basically just said that anything you say can easily be (and certainly has been) exaggerated and twisted. That pretty much ends any discussions right there since they would be pointless, as they pretty much have been.

Can we stay in topic? They have PM on here for a reason

 

[curropb]

Touch indicator haven't fixed. Source: @scjr

By the way, I jailbreaked my mini 2 yesterday and installed switcher speedster. Definitely much smoother app switcher!

Added touch indicator bug to page 1.

I would thank if any developer could report this bug (I'm not a developer)

 

[Merkie]

"Performance" is subjective once again. It's not a bug or change that can be quantified. All of the tiems in the OP are quantifiable bugs or changes. The lag argument should start another thread as not everyone even sees it.

Don't feel like entering the lag discssion, but performance is actually something that can be quantified. There are many ways to do so. In fact, there is nothing that can be more easily quantified than performance. If you can't quantify performance, then you should revisit your definition of performance. The whole purpose of word "performance" is to be able to measure it!

 

[XTheLancerX]

Touch indicator haven't fixed. Source: @scjr

By the way, I jailbreaked my mini 2 yesterday and installed switcher speedster. Definitely much smoother app switcher!

Oh darn. Well there goes all that excitement.

And what does that tweak do exactly to make it smoother? How much smoother is it?

 

[pacorob]

By the way, I jailbreaked my mini 2 yesterday and installed switcher speedster. Definitely much smoother app switcher!

Can you also check if Spotlight search (slide down version) shows 3rd party keyboards like Swype without delay on the iPad mini2 with jailbreak?

 

[crashoverride77]

What does "defiantly" mean? Isn't it "definitely"?

Thank you so much I had no idea

 

[crashoverride77]

No, its not that drastic difference in RAM use b/w 32 & 64 bit...also don't forget that the 5s & 6 (& 6+) use LPDDR3 RAM vs LPDDR2/DDR2; the RAM is faster (1600 mbps vs 1066 mbps) and offers much higher bandwidth among other improvements. The RAM in the 5s and 6 is actually better, not worse.

Besides, the A7 and A8 are much, much more powerful chips than the A5 and A6, so CPU workload moments as a limiting factor should also be demonstrable with the 32 bit devices as well, rather than only with the 64 bit devices.

With the 6+, there is the downscaling issue which was an issue even on the "buttery smooth" iOS 8, the hardware itself is capable but has to push more pixel plus downscaling every single image

I think it is likely more so difficulties with Metal coding or some kind of GPU issue with the 64-bit devices that Apple hasn't sorted out yet or hasn't got around to optimizing yet. In theory, the 64 bit devices should feel smoother than ever but in practice there is head scratching lag that shouldn't exist based on Apple's comments on improved performance specifically using Metal.

Consider that the A7 and A8 are still some of the most powerful mobile chips on the market; if weaker android hardware (Nexus 5) can run the latest Android software version smooth (as apparent anecdotally), that tells you its more a software issue than it is a hardware issue.

When people are experiencing animation lag at very specific moments on the 6s (which is by far the most powerful smartphone on the market) then that adds credence to the narrative that its likely a software issue

The 5s and 6 are still very usable on iOS 9 and mostly smooth, in my experience. I think the 4s ran smoother on ios 9 than it did ios 8 personally, even if apps launched a little slower, there were less skipped frames and animation lag.

Bingo to you too hehe. Optimisation or lack therfor is the answer, it's quite simple actually.

 

[crashoverride77]

Then it's not exactly same is it ?

Really? So you tell me iOS 9 which is out for 1-2 months is not the same as iOS 8.4.1 which took 10+ months to release because there are 2-3 areas where 9 is not as optimised yet? Fantastic logic

What about all the other areas where iOS 9 kills iOS 8.
Safari?
How is your weather app? Because in 9 it's smooth, not in 8
Stability and polish?

You are right it's not exactly the same, iOS 9 is miles better.
See what I did there?

 

[Merkie]

Really? So you tell me iOS 9 which is out for 1-2 months is not the same as iOS 8.4.1 which took 10+ months to release because there are 2-3 areas where 9 is not as optimised yet? Fantastic logic

What about all the other areas where iOS 9 kills iOS 8.
Safari?
How is your weather app? Because in 9 it's smooth, not in 8
Stability and polish?

You are right it's not exactly the same, iOS 9 is miles better.
See what I did there?

Different standards. Some people value stability more than smoothness, others value smoothness more than stability. Let everyone decide for themselves what they feel is important.

 

[Radon87000]

Really? So you tell me iOS 9 which is out for 1-2 months is not the same as iOS 8.4.1 which took 10+ months to release because there are 2-3 areas where 9 is not as optimised yet? Fantastic logic

What about all the other areas where iOS 9 kills iOS 8.
Safari?
How is your weather app? Because in 9 it's smooth, not in 8
Stability and polish?

You are right it's not exactly the same, iOS 9 is miles better.
See what I did there?

iOS 8.4.1 NEVER lags.Period

In the 7 months or so I owned the Air 2 and a year for the iPhone 6,there wasn't a single lag on any of my devices.I am appalled that Apple actually managed to slow the Air 2 down.That thing has one of the fastest GPu out there

 

[planetf1]

I wish there were mute filters on posts. Failing that ability to evict...

 

[Ifti]

Any updates on the Touch ID/unlocking issue, where the 6sPlus freezes for a few seconds after unlocking via Touch ID??
As per in this thread : https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/6s-plus-pauses-freezes-lag-serious-issue.1921141/

 

[philipyoungg]

Oh darn. Well there goes all that excitement.

And what does that tweak do exactly to make it smoother? How much smoother is it?

The tweak disable the Gaussian blur (left side) on app switcher. It's like reduce transparency, but only affect app switcher.

 

[C DM]

iOS 8.4.1 NEVER lags.Period

In the 7 months or so I owned the Air 2 and a year for the iPhone 6,there wasn't a single lag on any of my devices.I am appalled that Apple actually managed to slow the Air 2 down.That thing has one of the fastest GPu out there

Is that why there are threads about people experiencing lag with various iOS 8 updates (including 8.4)? Isn't it that if some people don't see it it doesn't mean they it's not there? In any case though, not what this thread is about, so no need to go deeper into that given that threads about it in the iOS 8 forum speak for themselves.

 

[GreyOS]

They have brought newer features to older devices before though.

Can you name some, genuinely interested. Contact pics in messages for 4.7" iPhone is one I can think of. I'm thinking of new features for old devices which were once features exclusive to new devices

 

[Defender2010]

How is this beta working with Apple Watch? Any issues? I want to install but want to be sure my watch will still function as normal.

 

[imagineadam]

iOS 8.4.1 NEVER lags.Period

In the 7 months or so I owned the Air 2 and a year for the iPhone 6,there wasn't a single lag on any of my devices.I am appalled that Apple actually managed to slow the Air 2 down.That thing has one of the fastest GPu out there

There is one instance where it does lag. If you are poking around the music app for a long period of time eventually when you open and close it, it will lag the entire iOS for 3-5 seconds depending on what device you are on. Other than that yes you are right. I was hard pressed to find any lag on 8.4.1. Even when downloading multiple apps/songs in the background the OS remained smooth.

I see jitters and judders all around iOS 9.1 but it is getting better. I put it on my iPad 4 last night.... What a mistake! I wonder how 9.2 is on iPad 4? It's really clunky in its current state.

 

[christian.terra]

How is this beta working with Apple Watch? Any issues? I want to install but want to be sure my watch will still function as normal.

No issues with the Apple Watch here. Battery life is just as good as 9.1. I don't sync music to my phone, though so I can't speak for how well that's working.

 

[Merkie]

Is that why there are threads about people experiencing lag with various iOS 8 updates (including 8.4)? Isn't it that if some people don't see it it doesn't mean they it's not there? In any case though, not what this thread is about, so no need to go deeper into that given that threads about it in the iOS 8 forum speak for themselves.

Not all lag issues are the same. The iOS 8 lag issues were completely different issues mainly caused by stability issues.

iOS 8, idle: super smooth.
iOS 8, stress: sometimes not super smooth due to stability issues

iOS 9, idle: not super smooth
iOS 9, stress: even worse than not super smooth

iOS 8 has always been capable of producing super smooth animations, from the beginning. For iOS 9, this is not the case. Even under perfect conditions, the device is not silky smooth.

Not very hard to understand, right? And again, why try to downplay the issue? Somehow you don't believe us, I think.

 

[Jayson A]

There is one instance where it does lag. If you are poking around the music app for a long period of time eventually when you open and close it, it will lag the entire iOS for 3-5 seconds depending on what device you are on. Other than that yes you are right. I was hard pressed to find any lag on 8.4.1. Even when downloading multiple apps/songs in the background the OS remained smooth.

I see jitters and judders all around iOS 9.1 but it is getting better. I put it on my iPad 4 last night.... What a mistake! I wonder how 9.2 is on iPad 4? It's really clunky in its current state.

That's true. Basically 8.3 was the smoothest version of iOS 8 and as far as smoothness goes, it ran circles around iOS 9.0 and 9.1. However, iOS 9 seems less buggy other than the animations.

 

[C DM]

Not all lag issues are the same. The iOS 8 lag issues were completely different issues mainly caused by stability issues.

iOS 8, idle: super smooth.
iOS 8, stress: sometimes not super smooth due to stability issues

iOS 9, idle: not super smooth
iOS 9, stress: even worse than not super smooth

iOS 8 has always been capable of producing super smooth animations, from the beginning. For iOS 9, this is not the case. Even under perfect conditions, the device is not silky smooth.

Not very hard to understand, right? And again, why try to downplay the issue? Somehow you don't believe us, I think.

Nothing in what I said there downplays anything or says anything about not believing someone about their issues. Simply questions some things that people say. Why do people twist other people's words to try to put their words in their mouth? What's the point of that? But again, not what this thread is about, so no need to answer those questions (which have fairly obvious answers anyway).

 

[wbrat]

Any new SIRI languages in iOS 9.2?