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iOS 9 beta 3 expected?

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nheilweil

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Anyone on 9b2 Music able to create a new playlist? Also when adding tracks playing on Bests 1 to an existing playlist it gives me a big check mark and says its added but I can't see it. Wonder if that's because I don't have the free trial (since you can't sign up for it in 9b2).
 
chekz0414

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Apple Music on iOS 9 beta 3 is what was shown to us during WWDC, so it shouldn't be a case of waiting for the beta to be done. My guess is beta 3 will also include the News app on iOS 9
 
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I agree. It's definitely worth the wait, it's just annoying that there even is a wait due to Eddy's tweet yesterday. But the servers right now.....I can't even imagine.
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Updated my wife's phone to 8.4 and it took about 5 minutes from start to finish.
 
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firewood

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WordMasterRice said:
I would contend that most developers don't have separate test devices. That is an awful lot of money outlay for developers that are making hobby/free apps, especially when it already costs money just to put apps on the store.
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"Developers" who are just making hobby apps, or free apps that almost nobody downloads, have no real need to test and debug their apps with the new iOS betas. Most real developers (who have lots of users and/or make money from the App Store) have test devices. Many have several devices (a drawer full), as they need to upgrade almost every year to test on the latest iOS devices on which their customers will be running their apps in order to support those customers, as well as test for backwards compatibility on older slower devices.
 
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firewood said:
"Developers" who are just making hobby apps, or free apps that almost nobody downloads, have no real need to test and debug their apps with the new iOS betas. Most real developers (who have lots of users and/or make money from the App Store) have test devices. Many have several devices (a drawer full), as they need to upgrade almost every year to test on the latest iOS devices on which their customers will be running their apps in order to support those customers, as well as test for backwards compatibility on older slower devices.
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I'm glad that you are comfortable enough to say who is a "real" developer and who isn't. I don't think I would be so cavalier.
 
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firewood said:
"Developers" who are just making hobby apps, or free apps that almost nobody downloads, have no real need to test and debug their apps with the new iOS betas. Most real developers (who have lots of users and/or make money from the App Store) have test devices. Many have several devices (a drawer full), as they need to upgrade almost every year to test on the latest iOS devices on which their customers will be running their apps in order to support those customers, as well as test for backwards compatibility on older slower devices.
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What about hobby developers that want to make apps that natively run on an Apple Watch?
 
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Why should they be left out of a global launch of a major new service? As a massive "thank you" for developing for the platform, right? Umm.

"You keep paying us $99/yr to develop apps for our platform, and for all of that you can wait a week for the much-hyped Apple Music launch - unless you've bought two iPhones from us!"

Anyway can see you won't budge on your standpoint, so agree to disagree mmk?
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Not sure you can call Apple Music a global launch. It's not available in Italy and I haven't seen reports of anywhere other than the US. But, I could be wrong.

I was wrong. Reported u in the UK.
 
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jsamuels said:
Not sure you can call Apple Music a global launch. It's not available in Italy and I haven't seen reports of anywhere other than the US. But, I could be wrong.
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It is available in Norway, but not really amazing.
 
retrospek

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I wouldn't mind so much if I could at least use Apple Music through iTunes - but I can't even do that...

Why is Apple (the richest company in the world !) so crap at all of this...
 
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vultuk said:
What about hobby developers that want to make apps that natively run on an Apple Watch?
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What about them? Some hobbies cost money (some cost a ton more than computer tinkering). Some hobbies require waiting a long time for parts, etc. Most people understand that upfront, and don't start building a 20 meter sailboat in their 10 meter backyard expecting to be done by the weekend.
 
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rwilliams said:
Such a curious launch. How do you not have iTunes ready to go when Apple Music goes live?
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My only assumption is due to server load. So this is the biggest launch Apple has had in a long time. I am going on the assumption that Apple will run some form of EC2 environment in a cloud based structure. This is on demand provisioning, so you are launching a new streaming service, very bandwidth intensive to at max around 800 million users (that's roughly the user base for iTunes if I remember correctly) you then have an iOS update, which goes ontop of that bandwidth and then so on and so forth. Would you rather have a completely successful launch of a new product or flop because you allowed access to everything in one go? I know personally what i'd do.
 
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Davstaylor said:
My only assumption is due to server load. So this is the biggest launch Apple has had in a long time. I am going on the assumption that Apple will run some form of EC2 environment in a cloud based structure.
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For the amount they are paying for cdn, these should be no problem. They do have a bad track record on server-load though.

But the way you described it, a Windows or GTA V launch wouldn't be possible.
 
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Davstaylor said:
My only assumption is due to server load. So this is the biggest launch Apple has had in a long time. I am going on the assumption that Apple will run some form of EC2 environment in a cloud based structure.
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With the amount they are paying for cdn, these should be little problem.

They do have a sketchy history due to serverload.

But the way you describe it, a Windows or GTA V launch wouldn't be possible.
 
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