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Radon87000

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Last time I checked the Xperia does not have 3D Touch nor does the Nexus 6P. This has the potential to change how people interact with their phones. Nor do the 6P or the Xperia score any advances in chip design like the A9 does. Here is a dual core chip destroying Octacore chips in almost every benchmark while giving longer battery performance from a smaller battery.

The same advancement was seen in the HTC M7. That was the first Android phone to make a design breakthrough. It beat Apple at its own game. And it used a very light Sense overlay that made the phone a pleasure to use.

In both cases the awards were well deserved. If you accuse Anandtech of IPhone 6s bias, then you MUST say the same for their HTC M7 bias because both devices got the Gold Award. However, you do not say that.
Unlike Apple,HTC does not own the media space so there is no such thing as HTC bias.Besides Anand had not joined Apple when they reviewed the M7 IIRC
 

nj1266

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Unlike Apple,HTC does not own the media space so there is no such thing as HTC bias.Besides Anand had not joined Apple when they reviewed the M7 IIRC

Wow Apple now owns the media space!!! That is impressive. What next? Apple will control the psyche space, consumer space, educational space? Apple is mighty impressive. It controls everything.

So what if he sold the company and went to work for Apple? Many people sell their companies and move on. What kind of logic is that? The man no longer works for the company that he once owned. How does Anand working for Apple now make the review site Apple biased when he no longer works there. If he was authoring reviews, then you would have a case.
 
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nj1266

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The Mate S

You mean the Mate S that does not have it yet and will only introduce it in select markets in 2016 and only on the 128 gig model. The Mate S that uses an old chip from the P8 that underperforms all other 2015 smartphones on almost every benchmark by a wide margin. The Mate S that throttles its performance.

http://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_s-review-1339.php

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9642/the-huawei-mate-s-review

I challenge you to find an actual hands on test of Force Touch in these two detailed reviews. It is not there because Force Touch is still vapor ware. You have to wait until 2016 to actually see it on the phone. Whereas with the iPhone 6s Plus I am actually using it today.

http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-force-touch-huawei-mate-s

The above shows you the limited nature of the Force Touch that the Mate S "luxury edition" that is NOT IN PRODUCTION yet has!!!
 
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jamezr

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Wow Apple now owns the media space!!! That is impressive. What next? Apple will control the psyche space, consumer space, educational space? Apple is mighty impressive. It controls everything. These quotes and articles are from pro Apple websites. Even they can see how much Apple control and manipulate the media better than any other.

So what if he sold the company and went to work for Apple? Many people sell their companies and move on. What kind of logic is that? The man no longer works for the company that he once owned. How does Anand working for Apple now make the review site Apple biased when he no longer works there. If he was authoring reviews, then you would have a case.
Sorry but there is a clear Apple bias in the media and tech reviewers. Even some famously Apple friendly sites admit it...

The funny thing is that everyone's right. Readers are right to claim that the iPhone is treated differently from other smartphones, and reviewers are correct in doing so. Apple makes more in quarterly profit than many of its mobile competitors are worth, and the success and failure of its smartphone plays a large role in shaping the fate of multiple related industries. The iPhone is reviewed like a transcendental entity that's more than just the sum of its metal, plastic, and silicon parts, because that's what it is.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9381325/apple-bias-iphone-reviews-day

The worst thing about Apple’s press blacklist system is that it encourages self-censorship in lower-level bloggers, writers and editors. A young person trying to make a career in technology journalism will benefit from better access to Apple if they’re overtly pro-Apple in their coverage and avoid negative coverage.

Better access will give them better stories, and their careers will benefit.
http://www.cultofmac.com/255618/how-apples-blacklist-manipulates-the-press/

Yes, Apple maintains a press “blacklist,” a list of people in the media who are shunned and ignored — “punished,” as it were, for “disloyalty.”

“Blacklisted” reporters, editorialists and media personalities are denied access to information, products and events.

Once you’re on the list, it’s almost impossible to get off. (I’ve been on it for more than a decade.)

Here’s what everyone needs to know about Apple’s press “blacklist.”

http://www.cultofmac.com/255618/how-apples-blacklist-manipulates-the-press/

Apple has a track record of playing favourites with publications, so that a handful of journalists get treated like royalty while the plebs consider themselves lucky if they can extract a "no comment". Of course, these very select American publications retain their editorial independence, but there's always a hidden threat: they know that if they don't provide the right sort of coverage, they can be excommunicated.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-upgrades-bloggers-to-favoured-status-updated/




But while accusations of “pro-Apple bias” occur so often that they’re practically meaningless, that doesn’t mean Apple doesn’t have a brilliant strategy for monitoring and manipulating media coverage about the company that is lightyears beyond what Amazon, Microsoft or even Google do.
http://bgr.com/2014/08/29/apple-public-relations-strategies/




Apple’s public relations (PR) department is probably the best in the world — certainly more impressive at shaping and controlling the discussion of its products than any other technology company. Before customers get their first chance to see or touch a new Apple product, the company has carefully orchestrated almost every one of its public appearances: controlled leaks and advance briefings for favored writers, an invite-only media debut, and a special early review process for a group of pre-screened, known-positive writers. Nothing is left to chance, and in the rare case where Apple doesn’t control the initial message, it remedies that by using proxies to deliver carefully crafted, off-the-record responses.
http://9to5mac.com/2014/08/29/seeing-through-the-illusion-understanding-apples-mastery-of-the-media/





WHY PEOPLE ARE CALLING THE VERGE BIASED
Soon after the iPhone 6 was announced, The Verge posted their iPhone 6 Plus Hands On video. In that video, an employee says the following quote:

“It feels pretty massive, but it doesn’t feel so massive that it’s completely unwieldy.”

The quote (which appears 15 seconds into that video linked above) quickly made the rounds on social media as the following image:

the-verge.jpg


https://www.oneclickroot.com/androi...r-apple-bias-but-do-they-really-hate-android/

Is it news when a company paints a phone white? From a journalistic standpoint, probably not. But I don't think that sites cover this issue because they are biased towards Apple. They cover the issue because people will read about it. People will click on the link to get to the story. Then, they might see the advertisements on the page. What if one of those ads is for a service that paints your phone white? Or for a competing phone already available in cool colors? You might click on that ad.

http://www.slashgear.com/the-myth-of-the-apple-bias-27110614/[/QUOTE]
 
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I7guy

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Wow Apple now owns the media space!!! That is impressive. What next? Apple will control the psyche space, consumer space, educational space? Apple is mighty impressive. It controls everything.

So what if he sold the company and went to work for Apple? Many people sell their companies and move on. What kind of logic is that? The man no longer works for the company that he once owned. How does Anand working for Apple now make the review site Apple biased when he no longer works there. If he was authoring reviews, then you would have a case.

Saying Anandtech is biased is not quite like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect The world is not going to stop, apple will still sell a huge number of phones and make money etc. And the debate goes on.
 

I7guy

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Sorry but there is a clear Apple bias in the media and tech reviewers. Even some famously Apple friendly sites admit it...


http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/23/9381325/apple-bias-iphone-reviews-day

So having a website state an opinion through a puff piece is now coming off as fact?


The president of our country does the same thing.

Just normal business in corporate america. I'm not sure why any would thing any company operates otherwise.



Another wonderful puff piece.




Frankly good for apple. They do what every company wishes could be done. Take a concept, improve it, give people what they want and sell it. In the process build a valuable, powerful, recognizable brand name and be able to call the shots.
 
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jamezr

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So having a website state an opinion through a puff piece is now coming off as fact?



The president of our country does the same thing.


Just normal business in corporate america. I'm not sure why any would thing any company operates otherwise.




Another wonderful puff piece.





Frankly good for apple. They do what every company wishes could be done. Take a concept, improve it, give people what they want and sell it. In the process build a valuable, powerful, recognizable brand name and be able to call the shots.
lol...prime example of Apple bias....
 

Max(IT)

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Lol, and you cited the notoriously butt-hurted Mike Elgan and the ridiculously biased against Apple The Verge as evidences ? Elgan is a joke within the tech bloggers community.
Yes, Apple blacklisted some reviewers, for good reasons, and they are entitled to do that.
That's doesn't mean the press is controlled by Apple in any way.
 

jamezr

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Lol, and you cited the notoriously butt-hurted Mike Elgan and the ridiculously biased against Apple The Verge as evidences ? Elgan is a joke within the tech bloggers community.
Yes, Apple blacklisted some reviewers, for good reasons, and they are entitled to do that.
That's doesn't mean the press is controlled by Apple in any way.
Lol another prime example of blind Apple bias
 
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Frankly good for apple. They do what every company wishes could be done. Take a concept, improve it, give people what they want and sell it. In the process build a valuable, powerful, recognizable brand name and be able to call the shots.
So why are ifans up In arms when samsung does the same thing (in your opinion)
 

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LOL, .so they do steal others ideas then..AND MAKE THEM BETTER. . gotcha...
they don't steal anything.
In 2015 there hardly is something "never thank before".
They just make things that really works, unlike others ....
Samsung implementation: a marketing gimmick.
Apple implementation : an usable features.
Samsung implementation 2.0 : an Apple copycat that works.
That's how things works
 
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I7guy

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So why are ifans up In arms when samsung does the same thing (in your opinion)
seriously I don't know. This is an Internet discussion forum where all sorts of irrational discussions take place. The Internet gives everybody the ability to have a voice per the first amendment; even citing opinion based as a fact.
 

Radon87000

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Lol, and you cited the notoriously butt-hurted Mike Elgan and the ridiculously biased against Apple The Verge as evidences ? Elgan is a joke within the tech bloggers community.
Yes, Apple blacklisted some reviewers, for good reasons, and they are entitled to do that.
That's doesn't mean the press is controlled by Apple in any way.
iVerge?Biased against Apple?LMAO.All their reviews are pure Apple advertising with words like "revolutionary" and "innovation" reused again and again
 
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Radon87000

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they don't steal anything.
In 2015 there hardly is something "never thank before".
They just make things that really works, unlike others ....
Samsung implementation: a marketing gimmick.
Apple implementation : an usable features.
Samsung implementation 2.0 : an Apple copycat that works.
That's how things works
So you consider this beautiful phone with edge curved glass a gimmick?
galaxy-s6-edge-plus-3.jpg
 
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jamezr

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Lol, and you cited the notoriously butt-hurted Mike Elgan and the ridiculously biased against Apple The Verge as evidences ? Elgan is a joke within the tech bloggers community.
Yes, Apple blacklisted some reviewers, for good reasons, and they are entitled to do that.
That's doesn't mean the press is controlled by Apple in any way.
lol did you read the articles? That is media controlling at its definition.......
 
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nj-morris

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This whole talk about copying is childish. Let me ask you: how can you ever expect technology to evolve if companies don't use each other's ideas? Now take the HTC One A9. I can accept that that was a ripoff of the iPhone 6 design...but I don't in the slightest bit care. Because it's a good design. I judge a phone based on how good it is, which is not something affected by originality in any way.
So all you people arguing about copying and whatnot, you're wasting your time. Just let the companies deal with it, as they're the only people being affected by it.
 

jamezr

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This whole talk about copying is childish. Let me ask you: how can you ever expect technology to evolve if companies don't use each other's ideas? Now take the HTC One A9. I can accept that that was a ripoff of the iPhone 6 design...but I don't in the slightest bit care. Because it's a good design. I judge a phone based on how good it is, which is not something affected by originality in any way.
So all you people arguing about copying and whatnot, you're wasting your time. Just let the companies deal with it, as they're the only people being affected by it.
I agree with you. I don't care who copied who. All it means is we consumers get better products with better features. But there are some here that claim Apple never copies others. They do of course as all companies do as a matter of good business practices. I think that is why all this copying stuff stems from. It is unfortunate.
 
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they don't steal anything.
In 2015 there hardly is something "never thank before".
They just make things that really works, unlike others ....
Samsung implementation: a marketing gimmick.
Apple implementation : an usable features.
Samsung implementation 2.0 : an Apple copycat that works.
That's how things works
The koolaid Is strong is this one...

Serious question, has apple ever invented anything? Propriety bits don't count..so don't say ios
 

billy the fish

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This whole talk about copying is childish. Let me ask you: how can you ever expect technology to evolve if companies don't use each other's ideas? Now take the HTC One A9. I can accept that that was a ripoff of the iPhone 6 design...but I don't in the slightest bit care. Because it's a good design. I judge a phone based on how good it is, which is not something affected by originality in any way.
So all you people arguing about copying and whatnot, you're wasting your time. Just let the companies deal with it, as they're the only people being affected by it.
Totally agree, then are all AS bad as each other. . It's just the hypocrisy that is the issue.. Apple has borrowed shall we say loads of design hints from others. . But then have the gall to sue samsung for rounded corners. ..totally redic
 

nj-morris

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Totally agree, then are all AS bad as each other. . It's just the hypocrisy that is the issue.. Apple has borrowed shall we say loads of design hints from others. . But then have the gall to sue samsung for rounded corners. ..totally redic

True, but that's just an example of the BS that companies just get themselves into that we as consumers shouldn't concern ourselves with. All we should care about is what we're getting from their products.
 
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Radon87000

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This whole talk about copying is childish. Let me ask you: how can you ever expect technology to evolve if companies don't use each other's ideas? Now take the HTC One A9. I can accept that that was a ripoff of the iPhone 6 design...but I don't in the slightest bit care. Because it's a good design. I judge a phone based on how good it is, which is not something affected by originality in any way.
So all you people arguing about copying and whatnot, you're wasting your time. Just let the companies deal with it, as they're the only people being affected by it.
We already know companies copy each other all the time.MaxIT on the other hand thinks Samsung always copies Apple and never the other way around
 

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The best thing to do if you want a new phone is to wait. I think the 6P is the best Android device out, but it doesn't do anything significantly better than the Nexus 6, which is $250 brand new from Amazon. As for iOS, I like the 6S+ with 2GB of RAM, but face it, iOS hasn't been anything spectacular in awhile. A 5C runs just as well as the 6/6+/6S/6S+. Innovations with phones have ceased to do much. The Surface Phone, which is rumored, could have an X86 processor, which would take mobile OS usage to another level.
 
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