iOS 9 vs iOS 6

[MrAverigeUser]

Of course it would be fast! It's an empty phone with nothing on it yet.

Not everyone is a collector of as much apps as possible. And not everyone needs push-services and bluetooth, WLAN and 4G all downloading masses of data at he same time.. I am sure the most Users have even never used a game on them. Real power user (kids?) are much more rare than people like me, I guess.
I got about a dozen apps on a iP5 and 16 of 32 GB are still free. My iP5 is immediate responsive, never saw a lag of the keyboard.
As for security: Already the fact that the last version of IOS was 7.1.2 and many people still using IOS7 shows that there cannot be a great amount of bugs in IOS7…. last version of IOS8 was 8.4.2 and IOS9 reached already V. 9.3….

meaning: IOS could not have been (and is) not that awful.

 

[Elisha]

Not everyone is a collector of as much apps as possible. And not everyone needs push-services and bluetooth, WLAN and 4G all downloading masses of data at he same time.. I am sure the most Users have even never used a game on them. Real power user (kids?) are much more rare than people like me, I guess.
I got about a dozen apps on a iP5 and 16 of 32 GB are still free. My iP5 is immediate responsive, never saw a lag of the keyboard.
As for security: Already the fact that the last version of IOS was 7.1.2 and many people still using IOS7 shows that there cannot be a great amount of bugs in IOS7…. last version of IOS8 was 8.4.2 and IOS9 reached already V. 9.3….

meaning: IOS could not have been (and is) not that awful.

So then your blanket statement that the older iOS is faster is false because it is only fast for you and those who don't use their smartphones as smartphones!

 

[lagwagon]

Already the fact that the last version of IOS was 7.1.2 and many people still using IOS7 shows that there cannot be a great amount of bugs in IOS7…. last version of IOS8 was 8.4.2 and IOS9 reached already V. 9.3….

iOS 8 went to 8.4.1(not 8.4.2) not because of "they needed a ton of updates to fix things" each one brought something new. 8.1 was enabling continuity and Apple Pay, 8.2 was Apple Watch app to support the Apple Watch, 8.3 was update to Unicode (emojis) and 8.4 was for Apple Music. 9.1 was was another Unicode update plus adding iPad Pro/Pencil support. 9.2 is the only outlier and didn't bring anything, 9.3 is iCloud for iBooks, Night Shift, Education/multi user for classroom on iPad.

 

[Act3]

Of course it would be fast! It's an empty phone with nothing on it yet.

That does not having anything to do with registering screen taps if at anything at all.

So adding apps, photos, contacts , music , call history etc... will slow down the iOS?

 

[MrAverigeUser]

iOS 8 went to 8.4.1(not 8.4.2) not because of "they needed a ton of updates to fix things" each one brought something new. 8.1 was enabling continuity and Apple Pay, 8.2 was Apple Watch app to support the Apple Watch, 8.3 was update to Unicode (emojis) and 8.4 was for Apple Music. 9.1 was was another Unicode update plus adding iPad Pro/Pencil support. 9.2 is the only outlier and didn't bring anything, 9.3 is iCloud for iBooks, Night Shift, Education/multi user for classroom on iPad.

Yes - PLUS lots of not-so-loud-announced "under the hood bug fixes"….
I remind still very good the desperate users who went IOS 8…. (For months WLAN and Bluetouth issues, unstable cellphone-communications, and so on…) as is for iOS 9...
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So then your blanket statement that the older iOS is faster is false because it is only fast for you and those who don't use their smartphones as smartphones!

a little bit arrogant, not?

Of course I use my smartphone as a smartphone.
I read + write several times a day many of my private and professional emails, I communicate a lot with the phone, I use the calendar, the contacts, messages, notifications, Music, iBooks, I take a lot of pictures (Like to use this function as a mobile scanner too), i stream with it, use the iPhone as a SONOS-controller, I surf with it if necessarily on the iPhone, I regard TV on it. And I synchronize iPad3, my MBP and MacPro via iTunes… same for my iPad3.

You can hardly say that I don´t use it as a smartphone…. but since I MUST be 24/24 and 7/7 joinable I use my iPhone in an intelligent way and economize the resources. I am an adult, not a kid. No need and no time lost for childish "features" like Facebook, What´s up, and all the other so-called "social" (= social exhibitionism) media, no battery-consuming push-services and no cloud service - I appreciate privacy and data security for my profession.

But you use it perhaps as a game-station and for replacement of Cinema, HiFi-chain and TV?

 

[lagwagon]

Yes - PLUS lots of not-so-loud-announced "under the hood bug fixes"….
I remind still very good the desperate users who went IOS 8…. (For months WLAN and Bluetouth issues, unstable cellphone-communications, and so on…) as is for iOS 9...

All updates for any software contain some level of bug fixes. You're completely ignoring the fact that iOS 8 saw 4 (and iOS 9 soon to be on the third) major updates because of feature additions and hardware support. NOT because it needed so many major updates for bugs.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

All updates for any software contain some level of bug fixes. You're completely ignoring the fact that iOS 8 saw 4 (and iOS 9 soon to be on the third) major updates because of feature additions and hardware support. NOT because it needed so many major updates for bugs.

Instable WLAN and Bluetooth connections are NOT "normal bugs" needing "some bug fixes" at all. unstable cellphone calls neither.Especially when this lasts for MONTH as with IOS 8 and 9… (and, just to make it complete, also OSX 10.10 and 10.11…)

 

[ajiuo]

What can you do on iOS 9, that you couldn't do on iOS6? Nothing.
For me the iOS 6 + jailbreak was the best experience.

Quite a lot actually. I would never go back to iOS 6. Apple has added many useful features since that time. I love the fact that I no longer need to bother with the hassle of jail breaking... I really don't notice any smoothes or animation issues with iOS 9... Also I think iOS 1-6 are ugly compared to iOS 7-9.

 

[lagwagon]

Instable WLAN and Bluetooth connections are NOT "normal bugs" needing "some bug fixes" at all. unstable cellphone calls neither.Especially when this lasts for MONTH as with IOS 8 and 9… (and, just to make it complete, also OSX 10.10 and 10.11…)

You're argument was because iOS 7 only went to 7.1.2 vs iOS 8 going to 8.4.1. So your assumption means iOS 7 had less bugs and didn't need to be updated as much to fix things.

Which is a wrong assumption. iOS 8's number was higher because it got things added to it along the way and at a much faster rate. If Operating System A gets its first update 6 months into its cycle, and Operating System B gets its second update 6 months into its cycle. They BOTH have 6 months worth of bug fixes. It's just Operating System B had an extra update in that time to add a feature or add support for new hardware released.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

One more example for performance-eating and battery-consuming useless automatic (!!) "features" being impossible to disable...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/beachballing-after-any-action.1956503/#post-22572555

more and more users have beach balling now . albeit latest apple devices and maxed Ram and SSds…

I think the guy who posted the link has nailed the problem and is damn right....

And he showed how privacy is neglected by apple...

 

[DoctorKrabs]

Welcome to software progression. It's been around for decades.

Windows 95 screamed on a Pentium CPU with 64Mb RAM. Windows XP barely ran on that.

Now imagine Microsoft blocking Windows 95 from being installed on those Pentium machines after releasing Windows XP.

 

[lagwagon]

Now imagine Microsoft blocking Windows 95 from being installed on those Pentium machines after releasing Windows XP.

Microsoft is doing just that with Windows 7 (and I think 8.1 also) and Skylake chips. They officially came out and flat out said they will not going through the effort to add code to Windows 7 to support Skylake.

*EDIT to add link*
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/10780876/microsoft-windows-support-policy-new-processors-skylake

 

[I7guy]

Microsoft is doing just that with Windows 7 (and I think 8.1 also) and Skylake chips. They officially came out and flat out said they will not going through the effort to add code to Windows 7 to support Skylake.

*EDIT to add link*
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/10780876/microsoft-windows-support-policy-new-processors-skylake

Absolutely correct. Microsoft is only going to support Windows 10 on newer intel processors. So you will not be able to run any version of windows below windows 10 on newer processors...unless my guess is, you use a virtual machine.

 

[danleon950410]

Now imagine Microsoft blocking Windows 95 from being installed on those Pentium machines after releasing Windows XP.

At least with Windows 10 it is offering the same/better performance with the same amount of minimun system requirements.
Bugs are rampant of course, as with every new software. Even if they're forcing people to upgrade they deliver an equivalent experience (better in a lot of cases). I really admire how they're fighting obsolescence (or whatever you spell it)

 

[I7guy]

At least with Windows 10 it is offering the same/better performance with the same amount of minimun system requirements.
Bugs are rampant of course, as with every new software. Even if they're forcing people to upgrade they deliver an equivalent experience (better in a lot of cases). I really admire how they're fighting obsolescence (or whatever you spell it)

Yeah, it's really great for the end-user who wants to buy a new processor and system board and run windows 7 or windows 8.1.

 

[oldmacs]

Microsoft is doing just that with Windows 7 (and I think 8.1 also) and Skylake chips. They officially came out and flat out said they will not going through the effort to add code to Windows 7 to support Skylake.

*EDIT to add link*
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/10780876/microsoft-windows-support-policy-new-processors-skylake

Not really the same thing. Those skylake chips NEVER ran Windows 7 and will thus be sold as machines running Windows 10, where as the iPhone 5 was sold running iOS 6. Its obvious that iOS devices can not be downgraded below the OS that they came with, though PCs have traditionally been allowed to do this. People have issues with iOS devices where you can't go back to the shipping OS, and with these skylake chips, people will be able to go back to the shopping version of Windows in the future if they want.

 

[danleon950410]

Absolutely correct. Microsoft is only going to support Windows 10 on newer intel processors. So you will not be able to run any version of windows below windows 10 on newer processors...unless my guess is, you use a virtual machine.

Fair enough. It's like calling Apple out because they didn't release/make an iOS 6 version for the iPhone 5S, or 7 for the iPhone 6, or 8 for the 6S, etc
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Yeah, it's really great for the end-user who wants to buy a new processor and system board and run windows 7 or windows 8.1.

Or the user that wants to buy the iPad Pro and run iOS 6...

 

[trifid]

I've been already advising friends/family not to upgrade older iPhones to the newest system, and this video reinforces that fact. I think it should be general advice not to upgrade older devices unless you are ready to risk it being annoyingly sluggish and forcing you to buy a new iPhone.

In the case of my family for example, I know my dad is a casual user, doesn't need much at all, the phone needs to work well, and basic Mail and Safari use, so for example he has a 4s with iOS7 and works great. Imagine if he had upgraded to iOS9, the phone would be painful to use and would need to waste money on a new one.

The fact is when you upgrade an older iPhone (more than 2 generations older), it's generally slower and it gets sluggish with each upgrade. So a casual user tends to start "hating" the device, because they do feel the sluggishness. So they want to throw it out and buy a new phone.

 

[Radon87000]

iOS 6 was where Apple actually cared about software quality.Things have been downhill ever since

 

[Radon87000]

No, that's not amazing, he's paid by Samsung.

You just watched an Ad.

Nope.iOS 6 was just that good

 

[stooovie]

It's been the same since iPhone OS 2.0 and especially 3.0 (it was SO much slower than 2.2.1). Phones run more stuff. What else is new?

 

[MrAverigeUser]

All updates for any software contain some level of bug fixes. You're completely ignoring the fact that iOS 8 saw 4 (and iOS 9 soon to be on the third) major updates because of feature additions and hardware support. NOT because it needed so many major updates for bugs.

You really believe what you´re writing here?
Have a look at the IOS9.3 update:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...changes-and-performance-improvements.1955231/

Just some little bugs?
You´re kidding?


iOS 9.3 beta 3
Build: 13E5200d

Critical Bugs

• Setting your device date and time to 1st of January 1970 on 64-bit devices (iPhone 5S and up) will brick the phone forever, even a DFU won't fix this (known to affect iOS 8 and iOS 9).
• Restoring from a backup from either iTunes or iCloud will result in failed verification of iCloud account, which causes sync issues and incomplete restores.

Bugs (new to beta 3)

• Swiping between open apps via 4-finger-gesture causes the screen to go blank for a second on iPad Air 2 and iPad Pro.
• Feedback app appears to be missing in some cases.
• Time missing on status bar for a number of seconds after unlock to Home screen.
• App icons continue to shift when returning to Home screen from current app or Notification Center.
• Swiping right on a notification on the lockscreen does nothing. It only takes you to the homescreen.
• Airplay doesn't work with Apple TV (tested with: Apple TV 3, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6s)

Changes

• iOS 9.3 beta 3 now scores 419 on HTMLTest.com compared to 409 for iOS 9.0.
• Verizon Wi-Fi calling (new).
• New News toggle under iCloud settings in countries with unsupported News app.

Bug fixes

• CrashSafari website no longer does anything.
• Landscape Control Center no longer cuts the right side of icons.
• Animation snap in Task Switcher when closing multiple apps is fixed.
• 3D Touch trackpad issues fixed.
• Bookmark links toolbar on iPad Air 2 in Safari now rendering correctly (was broken in beta 2)
• Fixes bug that causes the device to consume large amounts of cellular data. Settings > Cellular > System Services > Documents & Sync showed over 8 Gbyte.

Performance

• iPhone 6 Plus: Task Switcher scrolling is fluid; not extremely fast.
• iPhone 6: Task Switcher is 100% smooth and closing the last app does not have the weird glitch where the Home screen bounces left and right.
• iPhone 6: App load times greatly improved. Tapping apps is almost as smooth as iOS 8 and the load-in time is really quick compared to beta 2.
• Improved performance on iPhone 4s, iPad 2 and first gen iPad mini. Apps launch faster and Spotlight doesn't lag anymore.
• 60 FPS now in Multitasking area on A5 processor.

 

[canesalato]

What can you do on iOS 9, that you couldn't do on iOS6? Nothing.

Nothing... Except...
- Extensions
- iCloud drive
- Control center
- Airdrop
- integrated photo editing
- content blocking
- controlling the temperature of the screen
- Split screen multitasking
- always active do not disturb
- black list
- hey siri
- iCloud Photo Library
- continuity
- trackpad mode
- low power mode
- quick reply
- other thing i don't use

 

[MrAverigeUser]

continuity ---> nonstop endemic Beachballing

 

[I7guy]

You really believe what you´re writing here?
Have a look at the IOS9.3 update:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...changes-and-performance-improvements.1955231/

Just some little bugs?
You´re kidding?


iOS 9.3 beta 3
Build: 13E5200d

Critical Bugs

• Setting your device date and time to 1st of January 1970 on 64-bit devices (iPhone 5S and up) will brick the phone forever, even a DFU won't fix this (known to affect iOS 8 and iOS 9).
• Restoring from a backup from either iTunes or iCloud will result in failed verification of iCloud account, which causes sync issues and incomplete restores.

Bugs (new to beta 3)

• Swiping between open apps via 4-finger-gesture causes the screen to go blank for a second on iPad Air 2 and iPad Pro.
• Feedback app appears to be missing in some cases.
• Time missing on status bar for a number of seconds after unlock to Home screen.
• App icons continue to shift when returning to Home screen from current app or Notification Center.
• Swiping right on a notification on the lockscreen does nothing. It only takes you to the homescreen.
• Airplay doesn't work with Apple TV (tested with: Apple TV 3, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6s)

Changes

• iOS 9.3 beta 3 now scores 419 on HTMLTest.com compared to 409 for iOS 9.0.
• Verizon Wi-Fi calling (new).
• New News toggle under iCloud settings in countries with unsupported News app.

Bug fixes

• CrashSafari website no longer does anything.
• Landscape Control Center no longer cuts the right side of icons.
• Animation snap in Task Switcher when closing multiple apps is fixed.
• 3D Touch trackpad issues fixed.
• Bookmark links toolbar on iPad Air 2 in Safari now rendering correctly (was broken in beta 2)
• Fixes bug that causes the device to consume large amounts of cellular data. Settings > Cellular > System Services > Documents & Sync showed over 8 Gbyte.

Performance

• iPhone 6 Plus: Task Switcher scrolling is fluid; not extremely fast.
• iPhone 6: Task Switcher is 100% smooth and closing the last app does not have the weird glitch where the Home screen bounces left and right.
• iPhone 6: App load times greatly improved. Tapping apps is almost as smooth as iOS 8 and the load-in time is really quick compared to beta 2.
• Improved performance on iPhone 4s, iPad 2 and first gen iPad mini. Apps launch faster and Spotlight doesn't lag anymore.
• 60 FPS now in Multitasking area on A5 processor.

Did you see the new features added in the first beta? New features followed by bug fixes. That's the cycle Apple has followed for years.