Mobile OSs iOS and Jelly Bean (merged)

[Frankied22]

I currently have had the iPhone 4 for two years and had the 3GS before it, but I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Nexus. For $349 that is a crazy good deal, and I can already get JB on it. I'm really looking forward to trying it out with a pure google experience. Offline voice dictation, google now voice search, project butter, Improved notifications, offline maps, improved camera app, etc. all sous awesome. I think Google I/O really smoked Apples WWDC this year personally.

 

[matttye]

No the basis stems from the architecture of Siri being more advanced than competing technologies but if that cannot be proven in demo then I've no choice but to concede.

Just wanted to throw this in.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/google-search-vs-apples-siri-voice-off-battle/

Google voice search is faster at every comparison and also requires less input from the user, it just does it, or should I say it just works

 

[mbell1975]

and yet both of your join dates are 3 months ago...

Not that I need to explain myself to you but I have been a member of this site for over 6 years. However, I stopped using the email associated with my original account. The email was closed and I didn't remember my login details for this forum, thus I had to create a new account. I have actually been here longer than you

 

[oBMTo]

and yet both of your join dates are 3 months ago...

How about my join date?

 

[nefan65]

Just wanted to throw this in.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/google-search-vs-apples-siri-voice-off-battle/

Google voice search is faster at every comparison and also requires less input from the user, it just does it, or should I say it just works

That's funny...I thought Siri was a gimmick?

 

[asr10 user]

Only if Android had airplay (send all sound to airplay, not just certain apps) and do not disturb. Those two are the only reasons why I see reason to stick with Apple when the next iphone arrives.

As an iphone 4 owner, I was looking forward to using the next Siri on the next iphone. But Google Now looks amazing.

 

[virginblue4]

Just wanted to throw this in.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/google-search-vs-apples-siri-voice-off-battle/

Google voice search is faster at every comparison and also requires less input from the user, it just does it, or should I say it just works

Doesn't provide as much information as Siri though. Also with basic things with a timer, which you want to set quickly, Siri just does it, with google voice you have to confirm etc.

Also with setting reminders, you can speak to Siri with the time, whereas on that video you have to manually enter it.

Google voice is fast, I'm not denying that, but Siri was not more than 1 second behind in any of those and EVERY time it provided more information. As a personal assistant, Siri is much better.

 

[nuckinfutz]

Newbs

LOL


I will say this thread has gone better than I thought. We all have our reasons for choosing our respective platforms but in the end the competition delivers all of us better phones.

 

[0m3ga]

and yet both of your join dates are 3 months ago...

Actually, I joined in 2008. Some of us military folks get sent places for long stretches. I came back at the end of 2011. I know, you'd think I would remember a simple thing like a login name, but alas no. Then started making tweaks for cydia, so had to come up with a name.
But feel free to have this belief that your join date means something or somehow makes you feel superior.

 

[matttye]

Doesn't provide as much information as Siri though. Also with basic things with a timer, which you want to set quickly, Siri just does it, with google voice you have to confirm etc.

Also with setting reminders, you can speak to Siri with the time, whereas on that video you have to manually enter it.

Google voice is fast, I'm not denying that, but Siri was not more than 1 second behind in any of those and EVERY time it provided more information. As a personal assistant, Siri is much better.

Were we watching the same video? He didn't have to confirm the setting of a timer with google voice. He just said "set a timer for ten minutes" and they both did it.

You can most likely manually speak the time; he had to enter the time on that because he just said "remind me" without saying when he wanted to be reminded. If he said "remind me to buy milk in ten minutes" it should work with no further input. I do agree that Siris way of asking what time to set the timer by voice is more desirable though. I would primarily be using these features while driving and its imperative I don't have to look at or touch the screen!

From what I could see Siri didn't provide any further information either, other than in the weather forecast.

 

[nfl46]

Pretty amazing that JB is leading on an Apple forum. lol. But most Apple users on here are not bias though.

 

[matttye]

Were we watching the same video? He didn't have to confirm the setting of a timer with google voice. He just said "set a timer for ten minutes" and they both did it.

You can most likely manually speak the time; he had to enter the time on that because he just said "remind me" without saying when he wanted to be reminded. If he said "remind me to buy milk in ten minutes" it should work with no further input. I do agree that Siris way of asking what time to set the timer by voice is more desirable though. I would primarily be using these features while driving and its imperative I don't have to look at or touch the screen!

From what I could see Siri didn't provide any further information either, other than in the weather forecast.

I just realised what you meant; it did provide further information when asking for scored and how tall Kobe Bryant was, but the extra information wasn't relevant to the questions asked! So not really an advantage IMO. I'd rather get a quicker answer to the question I actually asked, than a slower answer to the question I asked along with a load of other information I didn't ask for.

 

[matttye]

That's funny...I thought Siri was a gimmick?

I don't recall saying that.

 

[nefan65]

I don't recall saying that.

That's what most Pro-Android [Fandroid] folks said when Siri was first announced. I wasn't implying you said it, but based on all your posts here today, and some of your replied, it seemed to fit.

 

[Redjericho]

I thought this was also a good read. Great time to be a technology lover!


http://gizmodo.com/5921789/android-...indows-phone-8-the-ultimate-mobile-comparison

The whole time I was reading that I was thinking "Oh, Microsoft, just stick to making PC's and Xbox's, leave the mobile stuff to the pros."

 

[Frankied22]

Apparently you can activate the Google Now on the GNex by just saying "google". Seriously, it looks way more useful than Siri and quicker. Add that to offline dictation, improved notifications, project butter, offline maps, improved camera app, etc I think Google just spanked Apple this summer. I just ordered the unlocked Necus for $349 and an really looking forward to giving it a try with pure JB.

And as for Chrome coming to iOS, it's already gimped like most of googles iOS apps. And people are expecting a full blown G Maps app this fall? Doubt it.

http://thenextweb.com/apps/2012/06/28/chrome-for-ios-is-live-and-ready-for-download-heres-what-you-need-to-know/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheNextWeb+%28The+Next+Web+All+Stories%29

 

[matttye]

That's what most Pro-Android [Fandroid] folks said when Siri was first announced. I wasn't implying you said it, but based on all your posts here today, and some of your replied, it seemed to fit.

In what way am I an android fanboy? I have an iPad and I criticise Android all the time. I look at things objectively and I can recognise a superior product. Googles voice search, from what I have seen, answers questions very fast and has a loud, clear, human voice. I personally think it looks better than Siri.

Until yesterday's keynote I thought Siri was the best. If I was a fanboy, I would've argued that S voice, vlingo, voice actions or any other number of assistants were better, but they clearly weren't.

 

[Zaft]

If you add a feature to your OS/app that can be turned off/on then you must add that UI element to manage the feature. This isn't bad if you have just a few items to toggle but can become an unruly mess if you add too many features.

Apple's pretty much made their choice. They are not making the OS the focus they are making the apps a focus. iOS 6 is about giving developers more power to create great apps. This ideology isn't going to appeal to everyone but it's the road that Apple is walking down.

You can always jailbreak if you want new home screens ect. It's legal according to the US government : P

 

[nuckinfutz]

Apparently you can activate the Google Now on the GNex by just saying "google". Seriously, it looks way more useful than Siri and quicker. Add that to offline dictation, improved notifications, project butter, offline maps, improved camera app, etc I think Google just spanked Apple this summer. I just ordered the unlocked Necus for $349 and an really looking forward to giving it a try with pure JB.

And as for Chrome coming to iOS, it's already gimped like most of googles iOS apps. And people are expecting a full blown G Maps app this fall? Doubt it.

Google Now is quicker but I haven't seen any substantial test to show that either assistant technology is really beyond what we had 4 years ago. Right now they're able to pull up custom UI based on a query but that's still caveman era technology as compared to what the technology needs to be.

Offline dictation is nice but on my phone my cellular connectivity is always going. Could be useful for tablets though that aren't always on wifi.

Improved Notification- ???? sounds like a changelog. This is a forum which means you "can" expound upon what is special about these notifications.

improved camera app - again brainless regurgitation of a changelog.

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I'm pretty happy with the current iOS Notification Centre. It does what it's intended to. Keep an easy to access history of my notifications and quickly takes me to the app that spawned it. I don't mind Twitter and/or Facebook joining the party but i'd prefer it not get too cluttered, distorting what a notification system is intended for.

I'm quite impressed with Game Center/Game Kit updates in iOS 6/ML. I haven't done online or multiplayer gaming but these updates make it easy to engage in challenges, turn by turn and multiplayer (including adhoc). I see no reason why Apple need cede any of the gaming market on mobile.

 

[matttye]

Google Now is quicker but I haven't seen any substantial test to show that either assistant technology is really beyond what we had 4 years ago. Right now they're able to pull up custom UI based on a query but that's still caveman era technology as compared to what the technology needs to be.

Offline dictation is nice but on my phone my cellular connectivity is always going. Could be useful for tablets though that aren't always on wifi.

Improved Notification- ???? sounds like a changelog. This is a forum which means you "can" expound upon what is special about these notifications.

improved camera app - again brainless regurgitation of a changelog.

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I'm pretty happy with the current iOS Notification Centre. It does what it's intended to. Keep an easy to access history of my notifications and quickly takes me to the app that spawned it. I don't mind Twitter and/or Facebook joining the party but i'd prefer it not get too cluttered, distorting what a notification system is intended for.

I'm quite impressed with Game Center/Game Kit updates in iOS 6/ML. I haven't done online or multiplayer gaming but these updates make it easy to engage in challenges, turn by turn and multiplayer (including adhoc). I see no reason why Apple need cede any of the gaming market on mobile.

The camera borrows a feature from windows phone by allowing you to swipe to the right after taking photos to quickly view photos you've taken. You can then pinch to show a big list of the recent photos snapped. From this list, you can swipe photos up or down to delete them. When you delete photos there's an undo option in case you deleted the wrong one.

The notification improvements look really useful to me. They now allow "rich notifications" which allows developers to add actions to notifications. This means, for example, a missed call notification could show two buttons along with the notification; call back and message. The notification at the top automatically shows the extra actions, and to show extra actions on any other notification you just swipe down with two fingers.

Here's a picture:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=je...oAQ&biw=768&bih=928#biv=i|0;d|KbJfJaKyDzvaHM:

As you can see, you can email guests invited to an event directly from the notification bar. Pretty useful.

 

[LSUtigers03]

Jelly Bean is very slick. It's not a huge update but it improves on the overall experience. The voice to text is much better than on iOS and Google Now is very cool. The speech recognition is very accurate and it's very quick with the answer to your question. The voice also sounds more human than Siri does on my 4s. The Siri voice has never bothered me but having it sound more human is pretty nice. I haven't played with it very much but so far it seems nice. It improves on the vast improvement that ICS brought to the Android experience. If anyone has a GSM Galaxy Nexus make a nandroid backup and head on over to xda and flash the JB ROM.

 

[mbell1975]

I think I might have to open a line with AT&T and get an unlocked Galaxy Nexus in a few weeks when JB is released now that its only $350. Better than waiting another 6 months for it to land on my current phone when they will be about ready to launch KLP.

 

[nuckinfutz]

The camera borrows a feature from windows phone by allowing you to swipe to the right after taking photos to quickly view photos you've taken. You can then pinch to show a big list of the recent photos snapped. From this list, you can swipe photos up or down to delete them. When you delete photos there's an undo option in case you deleted the wrong one.

The notification improvements look really useful to me. They now allow "rich notifications" which allows developers to add actions to notifications. This means, for example, a missed call notification could show two buttons along with the notification; call back and message. The notification at the top automatically shows the extra actions, and to show extra actions on any other notification you just swipe down with two fingers.

Here's a picture:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=je...oAQ&biw=768&bih=928#biv=i|0;d|KbJfJaKyDzvaHM:

As you can see, you can email guests invited to an event directly from the notification bar. Pretty useful.

They are useful features but in the end they are really neither better nor worse that other current options or options that preceded. The Notification Center in JB is a bit heavy on the UI widgets IMO and the camera is a nice feature but these aren't iOS spanking features. If it was ...I'd say so.

 

[LSUtigers03]

I think I might have to open a line with AT&T and get an unlocked Galaxy Nexus in a few weeks when JB is released now that its only $350. Better than waiting another 6 months for it to land on my current phone when they will be about ready to launch KLP.

You could just move your sim card between two phones and not have to pay for another line.

 

[Frankied22]

I think I might have to open a line with AT&T and get an unlocked Galaxy Nexus in a few weeks when JB is released now that its only $350. Better than waiting another 6 months for it to land on my current phone when they will be about ready to launch KLP.

I just ordered myself one. Really looking forward to trying it with JB.