iOS: Annually slowing down our devices

[Stridr69]

I also own a iPad Mini 1 with iOS 9 and its gotten slower as well.You cant tell me that theres a hella lot stutter in the app switcher and in keyboard input in the browser.At this point my Mini is like a $100 Android tablet

Actually my $100 Android tablet runs great. It's a Galaxy Tab 4 using Barnes and Noble's Nook application for their current offering. 1.5Gb RAM so it can do 2 applications at once. But I'll still take my Air2 for most everything else. Running 9.0.2 just fine.

 

[oliver03]

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This leaves users with two options:
#1 - Stay on the OS designed for your phone until you upgrade to a new device. This ensures speed and stability.
#2 - Upgrade your software each year to gain new features, while seeing slight reductions in speed with each OS update.

2 realistic options if I may so.

Have to agree with bboucher790 on this one due to "compatibility."

New software + OLD hardware + OLD apps/software = lag.

Every new release of IOS sends many leading apps for emergency updates. Many of these apps are in the background but they drastically affect speed/user performance. Add to that, every update of any app eats up what little memory space you have left.

Plus, the way we use our devices differently and install apps, unique to our needs, that may or may not affect each others performance. Plus the little bump and drops our individual device receives as we use it.

Hence the result of testing of one unit from another may just be as miles apart.

Drewyboy said, "eveyone wants new shiny things", reason why we want to upgrade, right? We just don't want to pay for it.

Cheers!

 

[Merkie]

They most certainly had issues with animations and lag. Many posts about that in relation to iOS 7.0 in particular and a fair share related to iOS 8.0 as well. There were plenty of other even worse issues (that don't really exist in relation to iOS 9.0), but also those relating to lag and slower user experience and the like.

I disagree.

 

[I7guy]

I disagree.

Fwiw my recollection matches c dm but not everybody experienced issues to the same degree, if at all. Rinse, larger repeat, except iOS 9 has been one of the better releases since iOS 6.

 

[danleon950410]

I assume your post is either intended to be humor or you're being facetious.

Pretty sure that the millions of users around the world that think the same aren't laughing, pal.

 

[newellj]

Pretty sure that the millions of users around the world that think the same aren't laughing, pal.

For once in this thread, a post that is objectively wrong.

 

[e93to]

iOS 9 seems to be a respectable update. Sure there are issues like stutter and choppiness here and there, but it's not like the sh*tstorm caused by 7 or 8. I remember 7 rendering many of my friends' phones unusable choppy. And 8's wifi issue... Companies even sent out letters to employees not to update at the time.

 

[Sonnto]

I think most people, or maybe this is just why I am kinda frustrated, is because iOS 9 was touted for its better battery and optimization (with much less features than other updates). The fact isn't how much worse iOS 9 is compared to iOS 8's or 7's release, but the promises Apple made for this release. Optimized? I don't see it with the amount of lags and stutter that I am getting on a 6... Battery life? My phone is dropping percentages faster than it did on iOS 8.4.1. I can only squeeze 5 hours of usage time (and we all know that isn't screen on time...) on iOS 9, but when I was on iOS 8, I could get 7. That's a huge difference.

Bottom line for me, is that Apple promised X Y Z, and did not fulfil X Y Z, and therefore, that is why I am more frustrated than usual. If they didn't, I would blame only myself for updating/upgrading because that is expected. Although it is still expected that these should occur, do not promote the update as something it is not and then being unable to fulfil those promises.

I know Apple did not promise SPECIFICALLY the things we are dealing with at the moment, but you have to admit that what iOS 9 essentially was promoted as was not really what they shipped out to iPhones 4s-6 NOR for the new iPhone 6S, considering the problems they're encountering as well.

EDIT: I am also not a power user. I don't have many apps downloaded. I use it to check Twitter some times, Instagram, Facebook with Paper, and that's my main apps. The next ones are Messages and Music and Settings. Literally, Messages or Home and Lock Screen are at the top. It said 3+ hours?...Well, not only did I NOT get the SAME amount of battery out of the same usage, I got LESS. That is why it was frustrating and I am upset with Apple.

 

[C DM]

I think most people, or maybe this is just why I am kinda frustrated, is because iOS 9 was touted for its better battery and optimization (with much less features than other updates). The fact isn't how much worse iOS 9 is compared to iOS 8's or 7's release, but the promises Apple made for this release. Optimized? I don't see it with the amount of lags and stutter that I am getting on a 6... Battery life? My phone is dropping percentages faster than it did on iOS 8.4.1. I can only squeeze 5 hours of usage time (and we all know that isn't screen on time...) on iOS 9, but when I was on iOS 8, I could get 7. That's a huge difference.

Bottom line for me, is that Apple promised X Y Z, and did not fulfil X Y Z, and therefore, that is why I am more frustrated than usual. If they didn't, I would blame only myself for updating/upgrading because that is expected. Although it is still expected that these should occur, do not promote the update as something it is not and then being unable to fulfil those promises.

I know Apple did not promise SPECIFICALLY the things we are dealing with at the moment, but you have to admit that what iOS 9 essentially was promoted as was not really what they shipped out to iPhones 4s-6 NOR for the new iPhone 6S, considering the problems they're encountering as well.

EDIT: I am also not a power user. I don't have many apps downloaded. I use it to check Twitter some times, Instagram, Facebook with Paper, and that's my main apps. The next ones are Messages and Music and Settings. Literally, Messages or Home and Lock Screen are at the top. It said 3+ hours?...Well, not only did I NOT get the SAME amount of battery out of the same usage, I got LESS. That is why it was frustrating and I am upset with Apple.

Seems like battery life has been fairly good for quite a few--mostly about the same, with some having somewhat better battery life. Low Power Mode certainly makes it that much more of a reality for many as well, but that's sort an additional separate thing. There are certainly those with worse battery life, as is often the case with pretty much any update.

They certainly didn't deliver a definitely noticeable improvement in performance or battery life as mostly it's about the same with some having a worse experience. With this being a x.0 release it's not too unexpected, even if it's not good. With updates as iOS 9 matures hopefully they'll get closer to delivering on more of those promises, and given how things progressed with iOS 8 and 7 it seems like that's not all that unlikely.

 

[Sonnto]

Seems like battery life has been fairly good for quite a few--mostly about the same, with some having somewhat better battery life. Low Power Mode certainly makes it that much more of a reality for many as well, but that's sort an additional separate thing. There are certainly those with worse battery life, as is often the case with pretty much any update.

They certainly didn't deliver a definitely noticeable improvement in performance or battery life as mostly it's about the same with some having a worse experience. With this being a x.0 release it's not too unexpected, even if it's not good. With updates as iOS 9 matures hopefully they'll get closer to delivering on more of those promises, and given how things progressed with iOS 8 and 7 it seems like that's not all that unlikely.

Aye. I was just speaking for those who've had a bad experience with iOS 9 so far. It kinda sucks on my end, because I am not even a power user. Had I been one, I would understand why my battery is getting trampled. But I am not, which is more irritating. I actually didn't wanna update from the original iOS 8 but since it promised battery improvements, that Apple was focusing on optimization and better battery life, then I thought, hey, they're FOCUSING on that stuff, it can't be THAT bad, maybe it'll be the same at worse... but no... it was worse than that unfortunately for me :c

Help me, iOS 9.1, you're my only hope...

EDIT: I also would like to say, I understand the whole it's just iOS 9.0.2 argument. But I think the reason why I feel irritated even if I understand this concept is because I gotta face my phone daily and it's not as good as it should be and it's just a daily thing. Every day, I gotta deal with it, and I guess that's why there's a lot of people who just gotta vent lol. Me included. But yeah.

 

[btrach144]

I honestly think Apple gets lazy with making each new version of iOS work well on older devices. It works in their favor because they can be sloppy putting together the new iOS and it also forces people to upgrade their devices.

My iPad 3 (iOS 5.1) is over 3.5 years old but it instantly slowed down after installing iOS 6. iOS 7 was the nail in the coffin. iOS 8 and 9 haven't decreased the performance over iOS 7 but they didn't help either.

After spending over a grand 3.5 years ago, I'm now having to consider a new iPad. I had hoped my device would have lasted longer.

 

[newellj]

FWIW, battery problems are not necessarily iOS-related. Look at the kerfuffle with the FB app.

Aye. I was just speaking for those who've had a bad experience with iOS 9 so far. It kinda sucks on my end, because I am not even a power user. Had I been one, I would understand why my battery is getting trampled. But I am not, which is more irritating. I actually didn't wanna update from the original iOS 8 but since it promised battery improvements, that Apple was focusing on optimization and better battery life, then I thought, hey, they're FOCUSING on that stuff, it can't be THAT bad, maybe it'll be the same at worse... but no... it was worse than that unfortunately for me :c

Help me, iOS 9.1, you're my only hope...

EDIT: I also would like to say, I understand the whole it's just iOS 9.0.2 argument. But I think the reason why I feel irritated even if I understand this concept is because I gotta face my phone daily and it's not as good as it should be and it's just a daily thing. Every day, I gotta deal with it, and I guess that's why there's a lot of people who just gotta vent lol. Me included. But yeah.

 

[dark_knight177]

After spending over a grand 3.5 years ago, I'm now having to consider a new iPad. I had hoped my device would have lasted longer.

I concur, Apple products get obsolete much faster than say Android. I have old Galaxy S2 still running Android 2.3 and it's more fluid and faster than 4S on iOS 9.

Additionally, my iPhone 6 Plus costing over a grand just 12 months ago, is now running slower on iOS 9 than a Galaxy S4 on Android.

Despite criticism of lack of updates on Android, it actually works in Android's favor because it can't intentionally slow down your device.

Now, imagine if you spent that grand on a PC instead of on iPad 3.5 years go, your PC (costing a grand) would still run fine for at least 5 years. That's exactly the reason why my next tablet will be a Surface Pro 4.

"The claim that iOS 9 makes your iPhone faster" is the biggest lie of 2015. That, in addition to announcement of iPad Pro, despite laughing at Surface and stylus, makes me seriously consider to move away from Apple's ecosystem.

 

[btrach144]

I concur, Apple products get obsolete much faster than say Android. I have old Galaxy S2 still running Android 2.3 and it's more fluid and faster than 4S on iOS 9.

Additionally, my iPhone 6 Plus costing over a grand just 12 months ago, is now running slower on iOS 9 than a Galaxy S4 on Android.

Despite criticism of lack of updates on Android, it actually works in Android's favor because it can't intentionally slow down your device.

Now, imagine if you spent that grand on a PC instead of on iPad 3.5 years go, your PC (costing a grand) would still run fine for at least 5 years. That's exactly the reason why my next tablet will be a Surface Pro 4.

"The claim that iOS 9 makes your iPhone faster" is the biggest lie of 2015. That, in addition to announcement of iPad Pro, despite laughing at Surface and stylus, makes me seriously consider to move away from Apple's ecosystem.

I have a surface pro 3. It came wit 8.1 and I upgrade to 10. It actually seems MORE responsive than it did with 8.1. It's the exact opposite experience than what Apple gives.

 

[C DM]

I have a surface pro 3. It came wit 8.1 and I upgrade to 10. It actually seems MORE responsive than it did with 8.1. It's the exact opposite experience than what Apple gives.

And yet there are people still having lag/performance issues with Windows 10 (down to even Microsoft having a whole support article about dealing with it):

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...ng-youtube-netflix-video-streaming-issues.htm

http://forums.windowscentral.com/mi...555-bad-input-lag-surface-3-windows-10-a.html

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en...do-if-surface-is-running-slower?os=windows-10

 

[btrach144]

And yet there are people still having lag/performance issues with Windows 10 (down to even Microsoft having a whole support article about dealing with it):

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...ng-youtube-netflix-video-streaming-issues.htm

http://forums.windowscentral.com/mi...555-bad-input-lag-surface-3-windows-10-a.html

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en...do-if-surface-is-running-slower?os=windows-10

I appreciate your reply but I use my Surface Pro 3 at least 4 hours a day and have not encountered the above issues. I am even running a BETA build. I realize I'm just one user but with my multiple experiences with upgrading iOS and Windows, Windows wins in terms of continued functionality, while my iOS device magically slow down.

 

[C DM]

I appreciate your reply but I use my Surface Pro 3 at least 4 hours a day and have not encountered the above issues. I am even running a BETA build. I realize I'm just one user but with my multiple experiences with upgrading iOS and Windows, Windows wins in terms of continued functionality, while my iOS device magically slow down.

And it seems like someone can make the reverse statements substituting iOS for Windows and vice versa, which is what I was pointing out.

 

[btrach144]

And it seems like someone can make the reverse statements substituting iOS for Windows and vice versa, which is what I was pointing out.

My real world experience vs a hypothetical response. People are hilarious. So many people on here willing to fall on Apple's sword trying to defend it to death. iOS updates screw up older generation Apple products.

 

[C DM]

My real world experience vs a hypothetical response. People are hilarious. So many people on here willing to fall on Apple's sword trying to defend it to death. iOS updates screw up older generation Apple products.

Your real world expeeince vs that of someone else. That is to say sure your real world experience applies to you, but it doesn't mean it applies to everyone or to everyone to the same degree.

 

[I7guy]

I concur, Apple products get obsolete much faster than say Android. I have old Galaxy S2 still running Android 2.3 and it's more fluid and faster than 4S on iOS 9.

Additionally, my iPhone 6 Plus costing over a grand just 12 months ago, is now running slower on iOS 9 than a Galaxy S4 on Android.

Despite criticism of lack of updates on Android, it actually works in Android's favor because it can't intentionally slow down your device.

Now, imagine if you spent that grand on a PC instead of on iPad 3.5 years go, your PC (costing a grand) would still run fine for at least 5 years. That's exactly the reason why my next tablet will be a Surface Pro 4.

"The claim that iOS 9 makes your iPhone faster" is the biggest lie of 2015. That, in addition to announcement of iPad Pro, despite laughing at Surface and stylus, makes me seriously consider to move away from Apple's ecosystem.

I got the iphone 4 right after its' release in 2010. So it's been running for over 5 years..of course now on 7.1.2 and relegated to ipod duty. But I have the apps I use on wifi on the phone, and while it's 5 year old tech...I don't have any issues with it.

I got the ipad 2 right after its' release now running 9.0.2. While I think IOS 9.0.2 is the best release to date, safari is running like clockwork. On 8.4.1 every 2 or 3 pages I would get a reload error surfing MR. Now I get a reload error maybe every 20 pages and I can keep a few tabs open.

Iphone 5s and 6 no substantial difference like the ipad 2, but no backwards regression. The thing is I had the 5s on 9.0.2 while I had it and it performed as expected, then gave it to my wife and restored her itunes backup and now its freezing up on 9.0.2. FB app maybe?

iphone 6s no real complaints, very smooth and battery life seems good. I refuse to download geekbench to see what chip is in the phone. but on 24 hours of standby with 4.5 hours usage and 50% battery left....I'm happy with the battery life.

 

[cbautis2]

@I7guy

Mine is a Samsung chip and it lags on Spotlight search app settings page when scrolling very gently. Facebook app lags to when scrolling while loading newsfeed which shouldn't happen at all. Scrolling on WiFi scanning page lags horribly when too many WiFi networks are detected where as in iOS 8.4.1 there's ZERO lag at all.

 

[I7guy]

@I7guy

Mine is a Samsung chip and it lags on Spotlight search app settings page when scrolling very gently. Facebook app lags to when scrolling while loading newsfeed which shouldn't happen at all. Scrolling on WiFi scanning page lags horribly when too many WiFi networks are detected where as in iOS 8.4.1 there's ZERO lag at all.

This on a 6S? Or what idevice?

 

[cbautis2]

6s Rose Gold

6 on iOS 8.4.1 exhibits NO lag whatsoever

 

[I7guy]

6s Rose Gold

6 on iOS 8.4.1 exhibits NO lag whatsoever

Actually the spotlight search apps page is funny as in ha-ha. Scrolling very, very gently no stutter. Scrolling hard, no stutter. Scrolling somewhat gently there is stutter. I haven't noticed it on the wifi page and don't use facebook.

Safari, my biggest use case, exhibits no stutter and I am sure you know about the recents. The phone isn't perfect, but it's more than good enough and there isn't a pervasive sense of lag or stutter, just some oddball situations that need cleaning up.

 

[cbautis2]

I'm OCD about it since that DOES NOT exist on 8.4.1
App drawer sometimes barely stutter but for the most part it's smooth
Hopefully iOS 9.1 will fix this stuttering. It's clearly due to poor GPU optimization.
Safari has ZERO lag too in my 6s.