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iOS: Annually slowing down our devices
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We all should remember the atrocities of iOS 4 on the iPhone 3G. Big mistake by Apple.
Using that as an example, you do not see this kind of slow down exclusively on iOS. Any Windows PC that could run XP could also theoretically run Windows 10, and I'll bet you whatever sum of money you can come up with that the Windows 10 instance would stutter over the XP instance any day of the week.
When it comes to operating systems on aging hardware, the law of diminishing returns does apply. With iOS, we see it mostly when it comes to animation speed and overall device responsiveness.
Also, to the OP: Congratulations Captain Obvious! *Salute* It turns out older hardware DOES in fact respond differently when you start adding additional software features beyond its original design!!
Using that as an example, you do not see this kind of slow down exclusively on iOS. Any Windows PC that could run XP could also theoretically run Windows 10, and I'll bet you whatever sum of money you can come up with that the Windows 10 instance would stutter over the XP instance any day of the week.
When it comes to operating systems on aging hardware, the law of diminishing returns does apply. With iOS, we see it mostly when it comes to animation speed and overall device responsiveness.
Also, to the OP: Congratulations Captain Obvious! *Salute* It turns out older hardware DOES in fact respond differently when you start adding additional software features beyond its original design!!
In fairness, at the risk of a subjective recollection over time, the number of issues has (unsurprisingly) gone up with complexity.
The comments that come up from time to time about the advisability of getting off a fixed upgrade schedule make a good deal of sense. Software (including OSes) should be released when ready, not when scheduled...IMHO.
Edit - just saw Kyotama's post. Maybe things are not progressing in a straight-line manner.
Too far back to have an active recollection.
There's certainly that. At the same time iOS 9.0 has been relatively much less problematic for more people compared to some of the recent new major releases (iOS 8.0 and 7.0).In fairness, at the risk of a subjective recollection over time, the number of issues has (unsurprisingly) gone up with complexity.
The comments that come up from time to time about the advisability of getting off a fixed upgrade schedule make a good deal of sense. Software (including OSes) should be released when ready, not when scheduled...IMHO.
Edit - just saw Kyotama's post. Maybe things are not progressing in a straight-line manner.
But the comparison isnt fair.The iPhone 6 is a year old.The Air 2 hasnt even completed a year.And I can show you the lag on both of them.
If you compare a fast Windows laptop from 2014 upgraded to Windows 10,it wont stutter.Period
This is more like if you could run Windows 7 or Windows 8 could run Windows 10.
Your example (XP) translates more to "if you can run iOS5 you should be able to run iOS9.
I had iOS7, got the patches, it got better but still had issues.
I had iOS8, it fixed some of the iOS7 bugs, gave me a new crop of bugs, got the patches, but it still had issues.
I have iOS9, it fixed some of the iOS8 bugs, gave me a new crop of bugs, seeing the patches starting to come through.
I had a 5 on iOS6. Not bad.
I put iOS7 on my 5. Negative impact. Ran slower. Gifted the 5, bought a 5S
I put iOS8 on the 5S. Negative impact. Ran slower. Gifted the 5S, bought a 6+ for the screen size.
I put iOS9 on the 6+. Negative impact. Ran slower. Bought a 6S+ for the RAM and Camera improvement.
I'd call this a trend.
I had iOS8, it fixed some of the iOS7 bugs, gave me a new crop of bugs, got the patches, but it still had issues.
I have iOS9, it fixed some of the iOS8 bugs, gave me a new crop of bugs, seeing the patches starting to come through.
I had a 5 on iOS6. Not bad.
I put iOS7 on my 5. Negative impact. Ran slower. Gifted the 5, bought a 5S
I put iOS8 on the 5S. Negative impact. Ran slower. Gifted the 5S, bought a 6+ for the screen size.
I put iOS9 on the 6+. Negative impact. Ran slower. Bought a 6S+ for the RAM and Camera improvement.
I'd call this a trend.
6 plus is worse than 6 at lag on iOS 9Notice you haven't gifted your 6+. I don't have 6+.
Just saying.
Notice you haven't gifted your 6+. I don't have 6+.
Just saying.
Chuckle
I have a daughter with the gifted 5 (she updated to 9.0.2 - oops) who wants it.
I'm making her wait ...
Getting atrocious lag in app switcher while creating an album.Cant believe Apple decided to release the OS in such a state
Far from atrocious. That's not exactly lag either. It's animations stuttering. It's still moving in and out just as quick if we're not stuttering. Lag would be if it stalled and took extra time to perform the task of opening and closing the switcher. Sure stuttering could be considered a form of lag. But true lag or "atrocious" lag as you put it, it is not.
On most devices on iOS 9 getting from point A to point B still takes the same amount of time. The only thing happening with iOS 9 is, it looks ugly doing it. That will get fixed over time, just like how every iOS has been fixed and gotten better over time. Everyone on the forums HATED iOS 8, until 8.4.1. Then it was suddenly the best ever (under the iOS 7-9 design)
I'm not disagreeing that there isn't stutter. But you're literally over exaggerating it by using words like atrocious. We get it. No need to continually shout from the roof tops, especially when Apple isn't with earshot to hear it (on these forums.) If enough people actually report it via feedback instead of ranting then they could make it a priority. 9.2 beta will probably start early November. No one knows what feature or purpose is planned for it. Maybe with enough feedback it can be a performance focused update.
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The thing is Android ALWAYS stutters too, and I personally don't like stuttering since it takes away the unparalled experience that you get on iOS. iOS should be stutter FREE and lag FREE at any costs.
Hey, stop that. By calling members out for their exaggerations and hyperbole or pointing out flaws in their conspiracy theories you are being unfair, complacent, and allowing Apple to get away with literal, not figurative or metaphorical, murder. When will the internet learn that you solve problems by making mountains out of mole hills since Apple will never listen otherwise.
Apple is one of the most adept at concealing their planned obsolescence strategy.
Being a very well organized, tightly controlled company where the top execs work very closely together, Apple is able to plan, execute, and benefit from a complete cradle to grave strategy. One that allows them to forecast just how long each piece of hardware and software will be in use with great accuracy. Then once questioned about it, they have their denial speech available in several versions that all ad up to the same thing.
Convincing the customers and press that they operate freely without any obsolescence strategy. Promoted carefully it's exactly what the Apple lovers want to hear, as they worship the company as caring about it's customers first, a myth at best.
Being a very well organized, tightly controlled company where the top execs work very closely together, Apple is able to plan, execute, and benefit from a complete cradle to grave strategy. One that allows them to forecast just how long each piece of hardware and software will be in use with great accuracy. Then once questioned about it, they have their denial speech available in several versions that all ad up to the same thing.
Convincing the customers and press that they operate freely without any obsolescence strategy. Promoted carefully it's exactly what the Apple lovers want to hear, as they worship the company as caring about it's customers first, a myth at best.
Perhaps you're in a bubble of your own.
Besides my iPhone 6 Plus, I am currently using a Nexus 5, 6, 7, as well as a Moto X Pure. Four Android devices that are fast, smooth as silk, and completely crash free. Something that cannot be said about my iP6+. Those are just the facts that I experience with my devices. Notice I am not bashing the iPhone, it is what it is. I still like it, even if it doesn't perform well enough to be my primary phone, I always use one Android and one iPhone concurrently anyway. Have been for years.
Being the tech guy for my family, we have countless iPhones and Androids, the only hard core Apple enthusiast is myself. I maintain all our phones and find that we have over 12 Androids that like mine are fast smooth and trouble free. This is no longer 2011 when Android was less than what it is today.
Thing is this update was supposed to be about performance.The upgraded Siri,Notes,Map and performance.How did they get one of the main highlights wrong.They had 4 months to fix the software when it was in beta.
They didn't get it fully in the initial x.0 release. Not good, but not unexpected either. With updates it will hopefully (and likely) come about.
Agreed.I own a Mexus 5 and 7 and although they aren't super smooth at this point the minuscule lag they have is way less than iPhone.Heck if it wasn't for me investing bucks in the Apple ecosystem,my 6 would be in a recycling centre and I would have just gotten the Nexus 6PPerhaps you're in a bubble of your own.
Besides my iPhone 6 Plus, I am currently using a Nexus 5, 6, 7, as well as a Moto X Pure. Four Android devices that are fast, smooth as silk, and completely crash free. Something that cannot be said about my iP6+. Those are just the facts that I experience with my devices. Notice I am not bashing the iPhone, it is what it is. I still like it, even if it doesn't perform well enough to be my primary phone, I always use one Android and one iPhone concurrently anyway. Have been for years.
Being the tech guy for my family, we have countless iPhones and Androids, the only hard core Apple enthusiast is myself. I maintain all our phones and find that we have over 12 Androids that like mine are fast smooth and trouble free. This is no longer 2011 when Android was less than what it is today.
You've admitted in another thread that you're new to iOS. Performance is always dropped a bit in a new version of iOS. Which since you're new, you wouldn't have experienced this each year. It happens every time. So much code changes to make the foundation for future features gets put in place. Which effects things initially, and then get improved over time.
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