iOS: Annually slowing down our devices

[JT2002TJ]

RebornProphet is showing a video of a beta... No need to address it in this thread, it was very useful, and thank you for taking the time to make the video. (I in no way intend that to sound dismissive). I am sure apple will bring back the performance out of 9 as they had with 8.4.1. I am just worried that it will take as long as it did with 8, a couple months prior to the release of 10. I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

To others, who keep saying 9.0.X is running smooth and buttery... I and many others are still waiting for video evidence. You have taken 12 pages of your time to point out how there isn't a design flaw in the software of iOS 9, please take a few minutes to document your proof. I would love to hear "I told you so" after seeing the videos. Please do the same things RebornProphet did in his great video.

 

[RebornProphet]

I laughed because you proudly mentioned that your iPad Air 2 is very smooth with no stutters. The stutter is clearly there in your video.

That's th exact problem on MR forums these days. Some people who are sensitive to fps drops get highly annoyed by seeing drop in fps. At the end of the day, everyone will get annoyed by the stutter at some point. It just depends on their own thresholds.

Once you see the stutter at a particular place, you cannot un-see it and that's when it starts to get on your nerves.

I'm THE most iOS OCD person you'll find. I've had some heated debates over iOS 9 on here the last few weeks and even had a temp ban due to one.

If I can handle one little piece of stutter in an other wise smooth and fluid OS, anyone can.

I didn't need nor ask for your mini lecture on seeing/unseeing lag or stutter. Trust me, I know.

The fact is, and it is a fact, is that iOS 9.1 is far smoother than iOS 9.0.2. THAT was the point of the video. On the Air 2, iOS 9.1 is shaping up to be a vast improvement, and the odd stutter on the App Switcher, while perhaps annoying, is far better than having it during the app opening/closing animations or the pinch to home animations which are far more frequently seen.

 

[dk001]

And that is the whole point there, it's not horrible and unusable as various people have been repeatedly and unnecessarily trying to make it come of as.

And as you mentioned, it's an item that isn't some rare commodity with unmatched perfection an luxury, at least it hasn't been for some time. Where I live I see more BMWs than Fords, and people would expect more than a Ford, but they don't expect some sort of ultimate perfection and luxury from a car that is at least around these parts is seen as more of a mid-range everyday car than anything else.

You still don't get it. "horrible and unusable" is not the predominance of posters here. I could be wrong however I am not seeing that level of angst.

No matter if BMW is "mid-range" to you, the mindset of Ford buyers is different than the mindset of BMW buyers. Replace BMW with Bentley. The perception and expectations of the target buyers is different. Marketing and Sales 101.

 

[stevemiller]

I'm more than impressed with the 6s.

i'm happy for you and that the OS appeals to your sensibilities

just hoping i can get my day in the sun again too.

 

[newellj]

OSXX isn't a real operating system. It's an imaginary operating system in a world where Apple doesn't allow you to choose the OS of your liking on your Mac, which is comparable to the current situation in iOS. I was responding to someone's post where he or she created a similar scenario.

Not at all comparable. You can roll any Mac back as far as back as its original OS X version, which is of course not possible after an iOS upgrade (with the exception of backdating to the last signed version for a very brief window after an update is released).

 

[newellj]

From the book of proven facts.

I assume your post is either intended to be humor or you're being facetious.

 

[_Refurbished_]

Not at all comparable. You can roll any Mac back as far as back as its original OS X version, which is of course not possible after an iOS upgrade (with the exception of backdating to the last signed version for a very brief window after an update is released).

I don't think that you're getting that my post was hypothetical. Maybe I should have been more clear. I'm fully aware that you can roll back to previous OS versions on OSX, that was the point of my post. I was mocking the fact that Apple forces OS versions on their mobile software, but doesn't on their desktop software. Apple is able to get away with it on iOS because they established this policy from iOS's inception.

 

[philipyoungg]

Like you said, there's still minor stuttering on the 6. A very good video to show other users the everyday performance of an iPhone 6 on iOS9, however, I wish you had gone into more everyday apps. Thanks for the video, at least someone here is trying

My iPad Air is staying firmly on 8.4 w/ my jailbreak. I doubt Apple will ever make it smooth.

I also doubt Apple will make it smooth, because the lag in Air are major. It would take lots of effort to make it smooth. Goodbye iPad Air, gonna sell it now. I hope the new buyer are Macrumors member who can't see it. Win-win solution.

 

[C DM]

You still don't get it. "horrible and unusable" is not the predominance of posters here. I could be wrong however I am not seeing that level of angst.

No matter if BMW is "mid-range" to you, the mindset of Ford buyers is different than the mindset of BMW buyers. Replace BMW with Bentley. The perception and expectations of the target buyers is different. Marketing and Sales 101.

Enough posts reference "junk", "garbage", "horrible", "unusable", "obsolete". Of course not every post is like that by far, but enough are to comment on those.

 

[C DM]

I also doubt Apple will make it smooth, because the lag in Air are major. It would take lots of effort to make it smooth. Goodbye iPad Air, gonna sell it now. I hope the new buyer are Macrumors member who can't see it. Win-win solution.

Things were worse with iOS 7.0 and 8.0 and somehow 7.1.2 and 8.1.4 are being treated as top of the line as far as comparisons against them. So there's more to show that things will likely be fine by the time iOS 9 gets deeper into its lifecycle with more updates.

 

[dk001]

Things were worse with iOS 7.0 and 8.0 and somehow 7.1.2 and 8.1.4 are being treated as top of the line as far as comparisons against them. So there's more to show that things will likely be fine by the time iOS 9 gets deeper into its lifecycle with more updates.

So by Memorial Day 2016 (USA) I should have my smoothly running iDevice back.

 

[philipyoungg]

Things were worse with iOS 7.0 and 8.0 and somehow 7.1.2 and 8.1.4 are being treated as top of the line as far as comparisons against them. So there's more to show that things will likely be fine by the time iOS 9 gets deeper into its lifecycle with more updates.

I don't remember performance difference from iOS 7, but do remember it on iOS 8. If iOS 9 will make the framedrop to (at least) acceptable rate like 5s does, I can live with it. But the next question is, when? Answer: Nobody knows.

Meanwhile I just gonna sell it to relieve my sanity and use laptop for browsing. I'll get another Air/Air 2 when it's on final OS—and never upgrade it anymore!

Yay!

 

[Radon87000]

I don't remember performance difference from iOS 7, but do remember it on iOS 8. If iOS 9 will make the framedrop to (at least) acceptable rate like 5s does, I can live with it. But the next question is, when? Answer: Nobody knows.

Meanwhile I just gonna sell it to relieve my sanity and use laptop for browsing. I'll get another Air/Air 2 when it's on final OS—and never upgrade it anymore!

Yay!

Dont bother.Air 2 is not 100% smooth at all.Better than your video where it was really bad tho.For now just get a Nexus.Trust me its smoother than ever on Marshmallow.Not 100% smooth but no consistent lag in one area either

 

[Radon87000]

Things were worse with iOS 7.0 and 8.0 and somehow 7.1.2 and 8.1.4 are being treated as top of the line as far as comparisons against them. So there's more to show that things will likely be fine by the time iOS 9 gets deeper into its lifecycle with more updates.

Did you even see the atrocious lag in that video?Are you saying "9.1.4" will make it butter smooth like on iOS 8?

 

[philipyoungg]

Dont bother.Air 2 is not 100% smooth at all.Better than your video where it was really bad tho.For now just get a Nexus.Trust me its smoother than ever on Marshmallow.Not 100% smooth but no consistent lag in one area either

Yeah I also consider won't get another iPad. Can't trust it anymore.

Btw, I bought Nexus 5 recently and it's buttery smooth. I got it secondhand for $142 (converted from my local currency). Used for three days, amazed, but converted back. I used apple reminder, text replacement, Mac-iOS exclusive app too much—that makes it's no brainer to move to Nexus. If I still use Windows as my main computer device, I'll get Windows Phone / Android in heartbeat.

p.s. I used Lumia 920 once in the past and have been very satisfied. No lag or any issue whatsoever. Problem is, their app selection is very limited.

 

[scjr]

9.1 b5 is "buttery smooth" here.

 

[C DM]

Did you even see the atrocious lag in that video?Are you saying "9.1.4" will make it butter smooth like on iOS 8?

I'm saying that by the time iOS 9 gets its last update it can very well be all good. In the days of iOS 8.0 and 7.0 many more issues were present not just with the interface but stability, overall performance, and functionality, and even more doubts were there that things would get better, yet when iOS 8 came out 7.1.2 was being used as this great example of things working well, and with iOS 9 release 8.4.1 is being used as a great example of things working well.

 

[Merkie]

I'm saying that by the time iOS 9 gets its last update it can very well be all good. In the days of iOS 8.0 and 7.0 many more issues were present not just with the interface but stability, overall performance, and functionality, and even more doubts were there that things would get better, yet when iOS 8 came out 7.1.2 was being used as this great example of things working well, and with iOS 9 release 8.4.1 is being used as a great example of things working well.

iOS 7 and 8 were a lot better regarding stutter and lag than 9 from day 1. Just that there were some issues doesn't automatically mean they had the same issues as with iOS 9. Those releases had other issues for sure (they were a lot more buggy) but not much issues regarding smoothness.

 

[decafjava]

Not at all comparable. You can roll any Mac back as far as back as its original OS X version, which is of course not possible after an iOS upgrade (with the exception of backdating to the last signed version for a very brief window after an update is released).

Sorry to go off topic, but how do you do that??

 

[newellj]

Sorry to go off topic, but how do you do that??

Internet recovery or a Time Machine backup are two of the ways to do this. See this recent thread about going back to Yosemite from El Capitan.

 

[_Refurbished_]

Sorry to go off topic, but how do you do that??

https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-1948

 

[I7guy]

iOS 7 and 8 were a lot better regarding stutter and lag than 9 from day 1. Just that there were some issues doesn't automatically mean they had the same issues as with iOS 9. Those releases had other issues for sure (they were a lot more buggy) but not much issues regarding smoothness.

People were complaining left, right and center about smoothness, stutter, performance on iOS 7 and iOS 8. Didn't mean it was universal.

 

[Radon87000]

People were complaining left, right and center about smoothness, stutter, performance on iOS 7 and iOS 8. Didn't mean it was universal.

Do you see the atrocious lag here?Its horrible

 

[I7guy]

Do you see the atrocious lag here?Its horrible

I was commenting on something else. Yes I do see what you are saying in your video. My former i6, now another family members, does not exhibit what the phone video shows. Don't know what would account for the difference.

 

[C DM]

iOS 7 and 8 were a lot better regarding stutter and lag than 9 from day 1. Just that there were some issues doesn't automatically mean they had the same issues as with iOS 9. Those releases had other issues for sure (they were a lot more buggy) but not much issues regarding smoothness.

They most certainly had issues with animations and lag. Many posts about that in relation to iOS 7.0 in particular and a fair share related to iOS 8.0 as well. There were plenty of other even worse issues (that don't really exist in relation to iOS 9.0), but also those relating to lag and slower user experience and the like.