Hard to say exactly given that there are many factors that could be in play, but it's not unusual for something like that to exist as things of this nature have been around computers and phones for many years. Some issues that will be there for everyone or at least many, while others that won't necessarily be there for everyone or even many.
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iOS: Annually slowing down our devices
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actually if apple allowed the ability to go back to previous ios versions you could make everyone happy...
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Perene
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I used to send video files with 1.5 GB each to the VLC app using the iOS 7 on iPad 4 on a 35 Mbps connection, using the local IP. It was sent using the max speed of my connection, so on average 3, 4 MB/s. Now it reaches 1-3 at best, not only takes more time to do the same thing, but the back of my iPad feels hotter than before, evidencing more "pressure" on the hardware. And I am sure the battery now drains faster than before.
Edit: Ops, VLC speed seems to have been fixed, reaching 4 MB/s now, so disregard that comment. The rest I think remains true.
Edit: Ops, VLC speed seems to have been fixed, reaching 4 MB/s now, so disregard that comment. The rest I think remains true.
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Not really even that though given that a number of people in these threads continue complaints about the new iOS version despite having gone back to the last one that works well for them.
Problem isn't just load times.I am talking about the damn stutters.And it's a fact that I can see myself that Chrome WhatsApp and some other apps have a 2 second black screen before they launch
i used to be annoyed, but now i'm just sad.
when i got an iPad 3, i was legitimately pleased with how it performed. it didn't feel like ugly duckling that history has made it out to be. and the functionality it offered was exactly what i wanted from a tablet. messaging, light web browsing, and some video consumption via netflix and youtube.
starting with ios7 and going downhill from there, the basic navigational functionality of being able to swipe, tap and type has degraded to the point that its just unpleasant to use. so where does that leave me?
can't go back, thats not allowed.
avoiding updating only works for so long, too. anyone i know who tried to stay on ios6 eventually needed to restore, and of course at that point there was no choice but to jump to the newest supported os.
so the heart of the issue is that these devices are intended to be upgraded about every 3 years, or make do with the degrading performance as long as you can. i guess thats that.
except it seems a damn shame. because i know what that "obsolete" piece of hardware is capable of, and those capabilities would still exactly match my needs.
i'm 100% for enticing hardware upgrades with new features and *better* functionality. but i'm finding my upgrade desires are less for something new, and more just to regain what i had before. in the case of the iPad, its pretty much soured me from bothering with another one. i can only speak for myself on that line of reasoning, but the slumping sales makes me wonder if i'm not alone - and not the often suggested contrary - that everyone is just so darned happy that they don't feel the need to update.
and yes, there will be all the arguments of what effort it would entail to properly support older devices. and i'm not saying there's even an easy answer. but its a waste in the most literal sense, and that makes me sad. 🙁
when i got an iPad 3, i was legitimately pleased with how it performed. it didn't feel like ugly duckling that history has made it out to be. and the functionality it offered was exactly what i wanted from a tablet. messaging, light web browsing, and some video consumption via netflix and youtube.
starting with ios7 and going downhill from there, the basic navigational functionality of being able to swipe, tap and type has degraded to the point that its just unpleasant to use. so where does that leave me?
can't go back, thats not allowed.
avoiding updating only works for so long, too. anyone i know who tried to stay on ios6 eventually needed to restore, and of course at that point there was no choice but to jump to the newest supported os.
so the heart of the issue is that these devices are intended to be upgraded about every 3 years, or make do with the degrading performance as long as you can. i guess thats that.
except it seems a damn shame. because i know what that "obsolete" piece of hardware is capable of, and those capabilities would still exactly match my needs.
i'm 100% for enticing hardware upgrades with new features and *better* functionality. but i'm finding my upgrade desires are less for something new, and more just to regain what i had before. in the case of the iPad, its pretty much soured me from bothering with another one. i can only speak for myself on that line of reasoning, but the slumping sales makes me wonder if i'm not alone - and not the often suggested contrary - that everyone is just so darned happy that they don't feel the need to update.
and yes, there will be all the arguments of what effort it would entail to properly support older devices. and i'm not saying there's even an easy answer. but its a waste in the most literal sense, and that makes me sad. 🙁
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I'm not going to comment on the need to use a Google's browser on an iPhone (how can you trust Google for your web browsing ?), but I'm using WhatsApp to, for people that don't have an iPhone on my contacts list, and the black screen is here, but it doesn't run for 2 seconds. Not even close to that. It's a fraction of a second at best. Annoying, but not a real issue, and it's probably related to whatsapp not being updated after iOS 9 implementation.
As usual complainers here exaggerate the issues they are experiencing, so they see lags and stutters everywhere, and a 0,2 sec delay became a 2 seconds black screen ....🙄
I use Chrome because its the only browser which has perect sync with all of my devices,Windows,Mac and Android included.And the black screen is a iOS 9 issue because if you see their changelog Google states "Optimised for iOS 9" and yet its happening.ALso happening on Instagram app for me too
lol 0.2 seconds?It lasts for a minimum of one second.I would take a video but its similar to what this guy has
This black screen drives me nuts especially because it is jarring and annoying.It doesnt happen after I use my phone for some time but when its idle for an hour and I open an app it starts recurring
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in that video you have the demonstration it's app related and it's not iOS ...
I have the latest version of youtube installed and there isn't any black screen on startup. The video showed the older version (the icon is red, now is white) ...
I don't care what Google write on the change log: clearly they made a poor optimization work on Chrome (while the team working on YouTube made a better job).
I7guy
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Shirasaki
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And you would be first in line to post in them .
Everyone's experiences may vary, but a clean install of an OS will yield the same results on the same hardware. Perception is irrelevant. One is faster than the other, regardless of opinions.
Again, the point of this thread isn't to say that Apple is doing anything wrong releasing a slower OS with more features. It's to show that slowdown exists and they don't care enough to ensure older devices stay responsive.
As posted in the OP, Microsoft has been doing a great job releasing OS updates without slowing down the software on older hardware. They learned this lesson with Vista. It's certainly possible to update the OS without slowing down a device, maybe if you wrote an OS you would realize this.
Sorry but that's simply not the case that the same results would happen. Plenty of people have done fresh installs aand came away without issues that they might have had before. And some people have certainly had issues while others haven't, at least not the same ones and/or to the same degree. That's been th reality for a long time. To try to imply otherwise is to simply ignore basic reality.
That's why there aren't plenty of people complaining about all kinds of versions of Windows in various Microsoft and tech forums. Right?
Trickhot3102
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A forum member put it perfectly...
"It's the iPhone 4s that's the problem, not iOS 9!"
Meaning, it's a four year old phone. You can't expect it to run the latest OS like its a new phone. My 5s is running pretty good for being two years old. There is some lag with iOS 9, but I prepared for that before I downloaded it! I knew that it would slow it slow it down and it might to show signs of age! i actually really like iOS 9! It's running buttery smooth on my iPad Air 2 and it runs very well on the 5s. I will admit that it does have some lag and bugs, but I think it's much better than iOS 8 was.
"It's the iPhone 4s that's the problem, not iOS 9!"
Meaning, it's a four year old phone. You can't expect it to run the latest OS like its a new phone. My 5s is running pretty good for being two years old. There is some lag with iOS 9, but I prepared for that before I downloaded it! I knew that it would slow it slow it down and it might to show signs of age! i actually really like iOS 9! It's running buttery smooth on my iPad Air 2 and it runs very well on the 5s. I will admit that it does have some lag and bugs, but I think it's much better than iOS 8 was.
decafjava
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Until people complain about apps not working with their older version of ios - although some devs make the effort not all are able or willing to do so.
I7guy
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I7guy
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Yes the overall swiping from page to page is better. Using an app, contrasted to being in and out of an app every 10 seconds, seems smother under iOS 9.
I7guy
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