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iPad 2nd Generation Discussion

pkdoyle said:
This summer! Well, kinda... If you get the Sprint EVO 4G phone and you tether it with your iPad and you live in one of the cities where Sprint already has 4G coverage. Though this is probably not what you meant. :cool:
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Or today... The Sprint Overdrive is already available
 
My phone has OLED screen, it is really amazing to look at. Really nothing else compares that I have seen. OLED on the iPad would be pretty sick.
 
Current OLED screens have too many problems, including extremely high price (5x-8x that of LED backlit LCD), over-saturation of certain colors (particularly oranges and reds), inaccurate color (limited gamut and hues not always accurate), short pixel life, and extremely hard to see in full daylight. I think Apple is all in on LED-backlit LCD technology. It's not as sexy, but it's mature and stable. OLED is exciting technology, don't get me wrong, I just think it's a couple years away from being viable for a larger-screen, mass product. Besides, the iPad's IPS display is beautiful.
 
OLED is a young technology and, in my opinion, is not quite ready for prime time. Apple will do well to stay with proven tech until the bugs are worked out.

While OLED does look great, it still has downsides. Too many downsides to warrant the expense.
 
nStyle said:
diff between led and oled?
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It's a different screen technology with a new manufacturing process.

Advantages of OLED:

- Greater color and contrast depth. An LCD cannot show true blacks, OLED can.
- Incredibly thin. Some HDTVs with OLED screens are just a couple of mm thin!
- Potential for the manufacturing process to become extremely cheap; mere cents per screen in the future.
- More energy efficient (theoretically - see below)

Current disadvantages that need overcoming first:

- Massive batch failure rate during manufacturing.
- More difficult to see under bright sunlight than an LCD screen.
- The screens last less than 5 years.
- More energy efficient under most circumstances, but for a mostly white page (like a book, document, or website) it uses way more energy than an LCD.
 
Impossible. A 9.7" OLED will run, at the very least, $1,000, unless something changes between now and 2nd gen.
 
LadyHoneyBabe said:
I think that's what they're counting on...a huge drop in oled prices.
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I just read the article that was linked and I don't know where they pulled these prices from. The current iPad screen is not $60-$70, closer to $100+, and a 9.7" OLED is not $500, but $1000+. Currently, the only OLEDs that have been mass produced are small ones used in phones and watches.

Sony released an 11" OLED TV that had a resolution of 960x540. The price? $2,500.

Furthermore, the IPS screen on the current iPad is already stellar so any difference will be minute. But IIRC, an OLED is capable of producing true blacks, something no LCD or plasma can do, so that is definitely a plus.

BTW, flat panels' lack of ability to produce true blacks is the reason I still have a CRT HDTV in my bedroom. The Pioneer Kuro came close but CRTs still produce a better picture than all LCDs and Plasmas.
 
drjsway said:
BTW, flat panels' lack of ability to produce true blacks is the reason I still have a CRT HDTV in my bedroom. The Pioneer Kuro came close but CRTs still produce a better picture than all LCDs and Plasmas.
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The black levels of the iPad are just OK, that's probably my only real complaint about the screen. I have a Pioneer Kuro plasma at home for just that reason, the black levels are really low and it looks great. Of course if you put such a screen in an iPad it would weigh about 3 pounds, get 1 hour of battery life, and burn your hands off trying to hold it.
 
HiRez said:
The black levels of the iPad are just OK, that's probably my only real complaint about the screen. I have a Pioneer Kuro plasma at home for just that reason, the black levels are really low and it looks great. Of course if you put such a screen in an iPad it would weigh about 3 pounds, get 1 hour of battery life, and burn your hands off trying to hold it.
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I find the black levels on the iPad to be surprisingly good for an LCD. It is lower than the MBA and MBP. But you are right. It's just okay compared to a plasma like the Kuro, CRTs, or OLEDs.

Great TV, BTW. Too bad they don't make them anymore.
 
I think OLEDs are over rated for the price. LED backlit LCDs seem to be the best of all worlds for image, power, and price.

I have no complaints with the iPad IPS display.
 
Half of the people touting OLED don't even know why. It's getting pretty ridiculous.

I have a few OLED devices btw. There aren't enough positives to make up for the fact that you can't see a damn thing outdoors on most of them. Most of the reasons the Nexus One's screen looks so good has nothing to do with it being OLED.
 
This topic has become so annoying to see it brought up so frequently. Let me just help you all out with this right now.


Next year's iPad will NOT have an OLED screen. Just stop thinking it's possible. It's not. OLED is still a screen technology that is evolving, and Apple has never been a company to use components like that.
 
Hope it's higher resolution so the text in books/magazines display smoother fonts than current iPad.
 
lily69 said:
Hope it's higher resolution so the text in books/magazines display smoother fonts than current iPad.
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1600x1200 would be great, but I'd be happy with 1280x960, keeping the screen the same otherwise. It looks really good but I definitely think a higher dot pitch would help text look better, it's a little jaggy on the current model. If it's true that the next iPhone will have 960x640 packed into a ~3.5" screen, I don't see why that's not possible.
 
2nd generation Ipad? When to expect?

I am thinking about buying a Ipad 64gb Wifi now for notetaking, Ebook, and web browsing when my Mbp would be too much of a hassel. But also id be using it for photo presntation. But thats not the point...

The point is. How long should we expect another Ipad upgrade? 1 year? 18months? How long did it take the ipod touches to get their upgrades.

Also, any would think that the Ipad 1st generations will be easily sold used after the 2nd generation will be released?
 
Just get it now and enjoy it. Won't be until next yes theater we see a revision and even then 4.0 will be on the iPad this fall and it's sure to be good.
 
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