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rui no onna

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Yeah, getting a refurbished or preowned items should always be on the table. This way you can maximize what you can get with the budget that you have and always try to leave yourself some flexibility. I spend a couple of weeks causally looking around and doing my research along with adding what might possibly be the AIR 5 before the official announcement and of course checking what certain items are going for in the preowned market. I ended up getting a preowned iPad pro 3rd gen (M1) 256gb wifi for close to $650. . Its a very nice upgrade from my iPad Air 1 ;)

I always check Apple’s Refurb store but I’m resistant to buying used unless it’s from a close acquaintance. ?‍♀️
 

MrSky

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I have an Air 4 and buying this Air 5 for one reason. My wife's Air 1 doesn't allow her to install hardly any app now. Says she needs a newer iOS version. She's resorted to watching shows and stuff on her 13 Pro Max because the iPad is basically useless. Will be giving her my Air 4 and I use the 5.
If you trade in your Wife iPad air 1, you can get $45 from apple store.
 
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MrSky

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I always check Apple’s Refurb store but I’m resistant to buying used unless it’s from a close acquaintance. 🤷‍♀️
yeah. that is true, an official apple refurbish is best because they normally replace the battery too so you don't have to worry about the battery going bad on you and you do not want to get stuck with a stolen Apple product.
But there are other places that you can also check that is preowned yet not officially refurbish and safe. And that is store returns, if the items is no good, then just return it. I would normally only look at the current or recent models because they would still be under Apply 1 year warranty. BestBuy and Walmart seems to have pretty good refurbish (customer returns) deals here and there.

example : These are Walmart customer returns, some of them will come with original box and everything and some with come with brown box will accessories in a zip lock bag. but if its no good, then just return it. :)

Refurbisehd Apple iPad Mini 6 64GB Pink Wi-Fi MLWL3LL/A (Latest Model) $399​


Refurbished Apple iPad Air 4 64GB Sky Blue Wi-Fi MYFQ2LL/A (Latest Model)$439​

Refurbished Apple iPad Air 4 256GB Sky Blue Wi-Fi MYFY2LL/A (Latest Model)$499​


Refurbished Apple 11" iPad Pro Wi-Fi - 2nd Generation 128GB $499​

Apple iPad Pro (11") 3rd Gen 128GB Space Gray Wi-Fi 3HQR3LL/A (Latest Model) Refurbished $599​

Refurbished Apple iPad Pro (11") 3rd Gen 128GB Space Gray Wi-Fi MHQR3LL/A (Latest Model)$599​


Apple iPad Pro (11") 3rd Gen 256GB Space Gray Wi-Fi MHQU3LL/A Refurbished $699

 
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MrSky

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What a joke….the few things she can do on it makes it worth more than $45.
True which is why I still have my old iPad air and just leave it near the kitchen. I also use a old app called Splashtop for remote desktop to control and view my pc at home (kinda like having windows on the ipad). But once you give your wife your ipad air 4, she will not touch the ipad air 1 ever again.
 
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jsmith1

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Ended up getting a refurbished 11” Pro 2nd gen (2020) 128GB from Apple for $609 before tax.

Me happy. Sorry I pissed off so many people. Enjoy your devices, whatever they are.
Wow, you paid that much for something that old…they saw you coming.
 
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allenvanhellen

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You might not feel this way if iPadOS 16 brings support for pro apps like FCP and Logic... but that's a big if. Not sure what the M1 is really for in this or the iPad Pros.
 

aevan

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For those who are going to buy this, you’re getting screwed.

It's clearly not meant as an upgrade for people who have the previous Air. But if you're looking for a tablet, for that money you get:

- The fastest tablet on the market and one of the fastest mobile computers in general
- The best tablet app ecosystem on the market
- Great design
- Industry leading security and authentication
- Great battery life
- Great screen and speakers
Also, you get support for one of the best styluses out there with the Apple Pencil.

So... How are people getting screwed? Maybe your expectations were unrealistic?
 

MajorFubar

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You might not feel this way if iPadOS 16 brings support for pro apps like FCP and Logic... but that's a big if. Not sure what the M1 is really for in this or the iPad Pros.
I've been waiting for this to happen for years but it never happens. A leak from a so-called Apple insider, round about the same time the second-gen iPad Pro was announced, said Apple were developing a version of Logic which would work on the iPad. All of us in the Logic universe got all excited about soon being able to take an iPad on the train or plane and work on our projects. With the benefit of hindsight, what this 'leak' actually was (if anything more than hearsay) is Apple were developing a version of Logic for what would become the Apple Silicon Mac.
 
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MajorFubar

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I've heard UK's MI6 and US's FBI have been drafted in to assist with the on-going global search for ipadOS productivity apps that make use of more than 10% of the power of the M1 processor.
 
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ericwn

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I've heard UK's MI6 and US's FBI have been drafted in to assist with the on-going global search for ipadOS productivity apps that make use of more than 10% of the power of the M1 processor.

Exactly, Apple and all other chip makers should just call it a day and stop developing better hardware products altogether.
 

kc9hzn

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At the very least I’d wish we’d have software parity compared to iPhones. That also includes a weather app, a watch app, health app and whatever else I’m missing. Having a weather widget but then no weather app while essentially running the same operating system is a bit weird.
That’s fair, though the Watch app and health app are special cases. For the Watch app to be on iPadOS, the Apple Watch would have to also pair with an iPad. I think the reason Apple doesn’t do that is because iPhones are on cellular, and having that always on internet connection is definitely a part of their vision for the Apple Watch (for audio streaming, for notifications and at a glance notifications). (As an aside, it would not surprise me one bit if, when the Apple Watch finally permits use independent from an iPhone, the cellular watches are the only one with that feature.)

The data in the Health app can be very personal, and the iPad is something of a multiuser device, even if it doesn’t have an account system. Plus, in terms of medical ID and whatnot, it makes sense to have it on the device you tend to carry with you everywhere.

(As for the weather app, that’s another one I don’t really use on my iPhone, so I don’t really miss it on the iPad. I definitely have a casual interest in meteorology, so having more data than the basic info the weather app gives me is high on my list. Real time radar, NWS alerts, temperature trends, etc. But yeah, it’s a little weird to have a weather widget without a weather app.)
 

kc9hzn

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The base-model MacBook Air has a 128GB SSD... oh wait, that was the MacBook Air from 2010... well I guess we just can't get that level of generosity anymore, can we?
That MacBook Air also came from that time when the MacBook was either dropped or was about to be. It was the upgrade path for, say, 2006-2009 MacBooks with ~120GB hard drives, like the one I owned.

As for the iPad Air, it and the entry level iPad are definitely built to a price (while that’s not as true for the iPad Pro). Apparently, that price point meant that Apple was either unable or unwilling to increase the storage capacity of the base config to 128GB. (Actually, 128GB is a number Apple doesn’t seem particularly fond of, many of Apple’s devices over the years has skipped 128GB and offered 64GB base with 256GB as the next option. Obviously, they do sell some 128GB devices, but they’re not the norm, for sure.)
 

ufgatorvet

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OK, I am going to let my true "noob" colors show here (please go easy on me ;)), but why is 64 GB and even 256 GB too low for most "non-average consumers".

With cloud storage for photos and music, with streaming services and now that iPad can have external storage options, what am I *NOT* storing on my iPad that I should (or, at least, what others are)?

For some of the posts I read I wonder why all the consternation.
 
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spiderman0616

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OK, I am going to let my true "noob" colors show here (please go easy on me ;)), but why is 64 GB and even 256 GB too low for most "non-average consumers".

With cloud storage for photos and music, with streaming services and now that iPad can have external storage options, what am I *NOT* storing on my iPad that I should (or, at least, what others are)?

For some of the posts I read I wonder why all the consternation.
You're right to wonder. People make all kinds of bold claims as if they're fact around here. "Most" people need this, "most" people need that. Nobody commenting here really knows what most people want. Only Apple executives have those numbers.
 

yitwail

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With cloud storage for photos and music, with streaming services and now that iPad can have external storage options, what am I *NOT* storing on my iPad that I should (or, at least, what others are)?
Some people might need access to storage when wifi isn't available, and might want to leave the usb port open for charging?
 

ufgatorvet

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You're right to wonder. People make all kinds of bold claims as if they're fact around here. "Most" people need this, "most" people need that. Nobody commenting here really knows what most people want. Only Apple executives have those numbers.
OK, that makes me feel better.

I may be easily influenced (ok, I can work on that), but this morning when placing the order for the 64 GB option, my finger was hovering over the 256 GB option while thinking: I need 256 GB, I need more, you can't have "enough", maybe I need to go to Pro, I am going to run out of space storing things I haven't yet thought about ... sweating.

I ultimately didn't cave and went with my gut. My Air 4 after owning since launch still have 20+ GB space free.
 
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Richard8655

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OK, I am going to let my true "noob" colors show here (please go easy on me ;)), but why is 64 GB and even 256 GB too low for most "non-average consumers".

With cloud storage for photos and music, with streaming services and now that iPad can have external storage options, what am I *NOT* storing on my iPad that I should (or, at least, what others are)?

For some of the posts I read I wonder why all the consternation.
I never quite understood this myself, with all kinds of external sources for storage access available. Why the desire to make one's iPad an isolated database system holding all your data given streaming, wifi, and cellular technologies available is beyond me.
 
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