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iPad as a laptop replacement
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Very sensible choice for you needs (although if anyone intends to use their iPad outside I usually recommend spending a little more for the iPad Air with its less-reflective screen). Trying to get everything done with only one device won't work for everyone. And while some people balk at buying both a MacBook and iPad, you've demonstrated how this can be done without spending a small fortune.
iPad OS 22 they're going to make it so you can play audio from the iPad speakers while being connected to an external display, and they think you're gonna love it.
Final Cut Pro along with Logic Pro is coming to the iPad for those that care for it... but once Microsoft decides to implement a full desktop version of Office, it's going to open up so much possibilities.
Obviously, there's users who have legacy or specific software that is not on the iPad platform... but I like where the iPad is at now.
Many people here were saying when Final Cut Pro comes to iPad it would only then be a true "pro" device. Whilst I'm on the side of no longer trying to make the iPad my sole device, it also feels like Apple and iPad enthusiasts cannot win. Final Cut Pro for iPad is a brilliant step in the direction many people wanted. Moreover, things like Stage Manager, external display support, etc. show Apple are pushing the platform towards the direction of being more useful for more people.
Microsoft Office being rubbish on iPad is a Microsoft issue. They could bring a more comprehensive suite but choose not to.
Lets see how close FCP is to it's desktop equivalent and if there is a free scaled down equivalent like MS Office for those that need only basic functionality
Hardly in the same class and not from a 3rd party etc
Of course it would not be in the same class, it is a "scaled down version" that only needs "basic functionality", and you never specified it had to be a third-party option...
Folks be asking questions, not liking the replies, and moving the goalposts...
Ha ha ha. Welcome to the world in 2023 my friend. Since I added the Logitech keyboard setup to my ipad it's become much more functional as an all around computing device.
I'm looking at the 12.9" M2 iPad Pro & a Logitech Combo Folio...
The Logitech kit is great. I bought it two weeks ago and used it the entire time we were in the hotel room, and never took out my notebook.
This will very likely be full FCP. Davinci is full Davinci and supports A12 (although it crashes often on anything with less than 6GB RAM), this only works with M1 and up, so it's very likely that it is the full FCP, even plugins are coming. It may even have some additional iPad only features
with Final Cut Pro, iPad is now a true laptop replacement. This thread is now complete.
Final Cut Pro & Logic Pro, check...
Xcode, maybe...?
Which macOS/Apple silicon/Metal 3D app will be the first to announce an iPadOS variant...?
Blender...? Cinema 4D/ZBrush...? Houdini...? LightWave...? Maya...? Modo...?
OTOY has Octane X for iPadOS out already, free on the app store, for iOS/iPadOS/macOS...
A theoretical Full Metal Blender/Octane X combo could be interesting on the rumored 14.1" M3 Pro iPad Studio, and no subscription fees...! ;^p
Apple mixed reality headset for palettes & controls surrounding iPad Studio and up to two 5K 27" 120Hz ProMotion displays...
Everything is 120Hz ProMotion...
Upgraded (iPhone Pro 15) Cameras/LIDAR scanner in iPad Studio used for motion capture, Apple mixed reality headset for immediate feedback to performer (mirrored image?)...
Apple mixed reality headset used for holographic-like animation skeleton manipulation...
Stuff like that...?
Xcode, maybe...?
Which macOS/Apple silicon/Metal 3D app will be the first to announce an iPadOS variant...?
Blender...? Cinema 4D/ZBrush...? Houdini...? LightWave...? Maya...? Modo...?
OTOY has Octane X for iPadOS out already, free on the app store, for iOS/iPadOS/macOS...
A theoretical Full Metal Blender/Octane X combo could be interesting on the rumored 14.1" M3 Pro iPad Studio, and no subscription fees...! ;^p
Apple mixed reality headset for palettes & controls surrounding iPad Studio and up to two 5K 27" 120Hz ProMotion displays...
Everything is 120Hz ProMotion...
Upgraded (iPhone Pro 15) Cameras/LIDAR scanner in iPad Studio used for motion capture, Apple mixed reality headset for immediate feedback to performer (mirrored image?)...
Apple mixed reality headset used for holographic-like animation skeleton manipulation...
Stuff like that...?
with Final Cut Pro, iPad is now a true laptop replacement. This thread is now complete.
I don't need Final Cut Pro on my laptop or iPad Pro - I'll use it on my desktop. Don't need it to make my iPad a replacement for my laptop.
My Verizon 5G home internet went out for 6 days. Verizon insists on telling customers “7-10 business days for tickets to be reviewed” which for your cell phone’s internet might be acceptable, but not for home internet. I have a 12.9” M1 iPad Pro that has an unlimited data plan, but not unlimited tethering. So for 4 work days I used my iPad connected to my 27” LG UltraFine monitor on my cellular data connection.
For the most part, it worked well. I attended Zoom and Teams meetings, screen recorded demos from our engineering sprint reviews, collaborated with designers in Figma, and used Slack, Teams, Outlook, OneDrive, and could do what I needed in Jira and Confluence.
While it would be frustrating to use it for work as my only device for an extended period of time, it got the job done.
Whether it could replace your laptop is entirely dependent on your needs.
For the most part, it worked well. I attended Zoom and Teams meetings, screen recorded demos from our engineering sprint reviews, collaborated with designers in Figma, and used Slack, Teams, Outlook, OneDrive, and could do what I needed in Jira and Confluence.
While it would be frustrating to use it for work as my only device for an extended period of time, it got the job done.
Whether it could replace your laptop is entirely dependent on your needs.
Honestly I am expecting Apple to start getting Mac Apps on the iPad, no full MacOS but rather provide more help in the SDK to port the apps to iPadOS. That would also bring more MacOS apps to their AppStore for more revenue.
Because if Apple doesn’t then side loading will provide some sort of emulation or translation for it.
I do hope Apple brings proper mouse and keyboard support though, so you can have full screen apps and games that fully take over the mouse movements.
Because if Apple doesn’t then side loading will provide some sort of emulation or translation for it.
I do hope Apple brings proper mouse and keyboard support though, so you can have full screen apps and games that fully take over the mouse movements.
Apple is already making as easy as possible to port apps, I doubt they can do much more, other that trying to convince some major software houses to port their apps to iPadOS, even without optimising them for touch, like it happened with DaVinci Resolve... Remember that for companies that means giving Apple 30% so not a huge incentive to do that...
Some subscriptions based apps could skip that like Microsoft does, but Microsoft is a competitor with Surface so has not a big incentive to make Office equal on iPad. Other major free app would be full Chrome, but Google is a competitor too so even if it becomes possible to have full browsers with extentions I doubt they will do it and (outside the US) there is whatsapp, which is a huge deal for businesses in many countries, but Facebook hates Apple (who has implemented anti-tracking options) and they'll avoid to make an iPad app...
And even just this is a huge deal. If iPadOS could run full Office, full Chrome and whatsapp it would be a huge deal for many businesses and individual around the world.... much bigger than FCP and Logic....
Easy to port Mac apps to the iPad? As far as I know there's no tool that makes that possible... there's the Mac Catalyst tool to bring iPad apps over to the Mac, but nothing like that for the iPad.
I do think with Apple bringing FCP and Logic to the iPad… its a sign for the tech industry as in “hey we (Apple) are taking the iPad platform seriously… others will follow.”
Yes, they have the M series in the pro versions, it time to use that to it's fullest.
Exactly, unfortunately it only works the other way around and we know Apple is dedicated to keeping iPadOS on the iPad which admittedly, is a good decision as MacOS even with the iPadOS UI on top would be, well, problematic in all sorts of ways, and a buggy hell, I'd assume.
I would like to have iPadOS-like features on MacOS, to some extent I actually like how restrained and simplified the apps are. I would also like to see more advanced MacOS-exclusive features on the iPad. In the end I'd like to be able to ditch one of the devices and use the other for both purposes. But that would not be in Apple's financial interest.
They run completely different operating systems, it only works the other way around to run the limited iPadOS apps on MacOS. MacOS apps on the other hand are programmed to use libraries and functions solely available under MacOS, they would crash and burn if you tried to run these on an iPad. You'd have to re-write this apps or even start over from scratch programming them for iPadOS. There is no way to just port them over.
If we wanted to have apps that are fully compatible with both the Mac and the iPad, it would have to be the other way around, the iPads would have to be running MacOS and then you can have a single app that combines a touchscreen UI for the iPad and a full desktop version. But that is not something Apple is moving towards at all. Apple seems very much invested in iPadOS, for example by writing a separate Stage Manager implementation just for the iPad.
Agreed those would be a bigger factor for many than FCP. Problem is Google, Microsoft, Meta are run by bean counters and board directors now. Those companies won't put in the resources to do that unless the market share for the iPad increases and it makes it worth it for them. Problem is increased iPads sales needs those apps (and a few others) before its sells more.
Even before M1 the A-series chips were capable of full versions of those, even with limited ram. Yet those App companies still put out a watered down version for the iOS.