The industry is now offering it because the issues that you mention are largely addressed now.
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The industry is now offering it because the issues that you mention are largely addressed now.
- Being satisfied with a product isn't a measure of innovation on its own. Regardless, we have zero satisfaction data for the Surface Pro X because it's not out yet so we can't compare.
- You post something about the design saying it's my opinion when I already addressed what's opinion and what's objective, like the large camera bump on the iPad or lack of rounded corners.
- Thinner and lighter: this says nothing of innovation on its own. I can design and manufacture a tablet right now that's got a 13" screen and only weighs half of one pound. It's what's on the inside that counts (e.g., powerful processors, ports, etc.). I've also already addressed that the iPad is thinner and lighter. The Surface Pro does have a slightly larger display and t's also got a built-in kickstand and 2 USB-C ports. The devices are also not that far apart in terms of thickness and weight.
- There has been no comparison of the cameras, so nobody can say, including you, which one is better, but on paper the iPad Pro camera is better. Both the cameras are somewhat comparable spec-wise: SPX: 10.0MP rear-facing autofocus camera with 1080p HD and 4k video; iPad Pro 12.9 is a 12.0 MP camera with some other technology built-in. Regardless, back-facing cameras are not a defining feature of a tablet since people use much smaller devices like a smartphone for taking video and pictures. The front-facing cameras are 5 MP vs. 7 MP respectively.
- The Surface Pro keyboard is better than Apple's keyboard cover or many of the third party ones out there, period, full stop. No argument. It's a strawman to compare it to a laptop. We're not comapring it to that. We're comparing it to the iPad. What it has on the Apple keyboard cover and several other third party ones: 1) Backlit keys. 2) Comfortable fabric. 3) Actual palm-rest. 4) A glass, multi-touch trackpad. 5) A well for the Stylus that doubles as a "hidden" compartment and stylus charger so the stylus is effectively always charged.
- Surface Pro Slim Pen: it's absurd to say that Apple's pencil is "king" and "wayy more innovative". It's not. Period. Both pens are almost identical when it comes to pressure sensitivity and latency. The Surface pen also is supported across many applications in Windows, including running full Adobe applications like Photoshop and Illustrator. Now, Microsoft has updates to its Office applications so you can actually use the pen to write in applications like Excel and it will get converted into text and go into cells. The pen support across Windows is much, much better than iOS. It's an afterthought in iOS. The Surface Pro X also supports the Surface Dial, something 100% designed for artists. And here's an artist using the Surface Pro 6 and pen to draw. There, now you've seen someone use it for art.
- Seems like it can't and does not. With no ability to be propped up, the iPad out of the box cannot be used like a laptop.
- The iPad's battery life is not better than a Surface Pro X. We don't know that because the Surface Pro X is not yet released.
- You keep committing strawmen by taking something that is a feature of the Surface Pro that the iPad Pro doesn't have, and detracting away from it by comparing it to a different category product. The Surface Pro is a tablet, and it has 2 USB-C ports, the iPad Pro has 1.
- The 16 GB of RAM in the Surface Pro X will be used by full desktop programs that the iPad Pro does not run. And you cannot say it's slow RAM, because it's not. It's LPDDR4x RAM at 3733Mbps.
- The hard drive is replaceable by using a SIM card pin to pop off the cover, and then unscrew the SSD and replace it.
- The actual square mm of the Surface Pro X and the iPad Pro 12.9 are nearly identical.
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- Being satisfied with a product isn't a measure of innovation on its own. Regardless, we have zero satisfaction data for the Surface Pro X because it's not out yet so we can't compare.
- You post something about the design saying it's my opinion when I already addressed what's opinion and what's objective, like the large camera bump on the iPad or lack of rounded corners.
- Thinner and lighter: this says nothing of innovation on its own. I can design and manufacture a tablet right now that's got a 13" screen and only weighs half of one pound. It's what's on the inside that counts (e.g., powerful processors, ports, etc.). I've also already addressed that the iPad is thinner and lighter. The Surface Pro does have a slightly larger display and t's also got a built-in kickstand and 2 USB-C ports. The devices are also not that far apart in terms of thickness and weight.
- There has been no comparison of the cameras, so nobody can say, including you, which one is better, but on paper the iPad Pro camera is better. Both the cameras are somewhat comparable spec-wise: SPX: 10.0MP rear-facing autofocus camera with 1080p HD and 4k video; iPad Pro 12.9 is a 12.0 MP camera with some other technology built-in. Regardless, back-facing cameras are not a defining feature of a tablet since people use much smaller devices like a smartphone for taking video and pictures. The front-facing cameras are 5 MP vs. 7 MP respectively.
- The Surface Pro keyboard is better than Apple's keyboard cover or many of the third party ones out there, period, full stop. No argument. It's a strawman to compare it to a laptop. We're not comapring it to that. We're comparing it to the iPad. What it has on the Apple keyboard cover and several other third party ones: 1) Backlit keys. 2) Comfortable fabric. 3) Actual palm-rest. 4) A glass, multi-touch trackpad. 5) A well for the Stylus that doubles as a "hidden" compartment and stylus charger so the stylus is effectively always charged.
- Surface Pro Slim Pen: it's absurd to say that Apple's pencil is "king" and "wayy more innovative". Both pens are almost identical when it comes to pressure sensitivity and latency. The Surface pen also is supported across many applications in Windows, including running full Adobe applications like Photoshop and Illustrator. Now, Microsoft has updates to its Office applications so you can actually use the pen to write in applications like Excel and it will get converted into text and go into cells. The pen support across Windows is much, much better than iOS. It's an afterthought in iOS. The Surface Pro X also supports the Surface Dial, something 100% designed for artists. And here's an artist using the Surface Pro 6 and pen to draw. There, now you've seen someone use it for art.
The Apple Pencil is king and more innovative. Adobe are bringing out full Photoshop for iPad and will actually ensure the experience is lended to the iPad form in a superior way.. Windows touch / pen support is famously an after thought, Windows 8 started that off. A thread on here where people show their Apple Pencil drawings probably has more responses than professionals globally using the Surface Pen ROFL ..
- Seems like it can't and does not. With no ability to be propped up, the iPad out of the box cannot be used like a laptop.
- The iPad's battery life is not better than a Surface Pro X. We don't know that because the Surface Pro X is not yet released.
- You keep committing strawmen by taking something that is a feature of the Surface Pro that the iPad Pro doesn't have, and detracting away from it by comparing it to a different category product. The Surface Pro is a tablet, and it has 2 USB-C ports, the iPad Pro has 1.
- The 16 GB of RAM in the Surface Pro X will be used by full desktop programs that the iPad Pro does not run. And you cannot say it's slow RAM, because it's not. It's LPDDR4x RAM at 3733Mbps.
- The hard drive is replaceable by using a SIM card pin to pop off the cover, and then unscrew the SSD and replace it.
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/microsoft-surface-laptop-3-ssd-repair-upgrade
- The actual square mm of the Surface Pro X and the iPad Pro 12.9 are nearly identical.
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Let me give the opinion of someone who is at the same time a big ipad user and windows user (and has several ipad and surface devices).
First, 2 things.
- Contrary to probably most people here, I am perfectly fine with Windows. It has its issues, but the main one for me (forced updates) has been resolved with the latest version. And it also has advantages over IpadOS.
- I don't care about a device being a real tablet or not. I want a device to meet my needs (and laying on a sofa is not what I do with any of my devices)
I have many ipads (see my signature) and a surface 3 and pro 3 (sold my surface 2) and a hp elite (surface pro 4 clone)
Keyboard and kickstand: I have always been a fan of the kickstand, as it's ideal for watching videos, but for everything else I have come to realize it's not a very good design. A surface style device takes more room on a desk than an equivalent laptop and it's (for the same reason) uncomfortable on your lap. To use a French way of saying it, it's a false good idea. Over time I have come to appreciate ipad keyboard cover design and I now only use ipads with keyboards. The keyboards acts like a kickstand (even if just at one angle) with the added benefit of having the keyboard always available like a laptop, but taking less space and little weight. I have writing on glass, so this is ideal for me. Surface instead the keyboard is hanging when you move it around (or you need to close it, putting it in standby every time).
In business lunches for instance, the ipad pro is great to use on a restaurant table. It takes less space than a laptop (let a alone a surface...) and if you spill something on the keyboard it's not an issue...
Having said that I wish it was backlit. Also the 3rd gen pro keyboard makes it no longer lappable, that's why I returned it.
Power and Battery Life: We don't know yet. My guess it that SQ1 is going to be on pad with A12X, but we'll see. Battery life is probably going to be on par or slightly less than ipad. Again, tests aren't out yet.
RAM: pros need more RAM, 4GB is fine for now, but as pro apps arrive we need more. Especially if as some point ipados adopts floating windows. I won't buy anything new under 6GB.
Fast charge: you can already fast charge an ipad pro with a mac charger. It's not as quick as the pro x, but the faster you go the more you wear the battery, even under 80% (touch the ipad while fast charging and see how much hotter it becomes)
Ports: No doubt surface wins. And you forgot to mention it has surface connect. So you don't even need usb c to charge.
Promotion: I don't care about it.
Stylus: out of the box the surface pen is superior to the pencil, at least the first gen on. Better feel than the plastic on glass feel of the pencil, lighter and shorter, more like a real pen. But if you put a screen protector (Paperlike or not) the pencil feels much better and the second gen is as good or better than the surface pen. I still don't know how the new slim (flat) surface pen feels. We'll see.
Camera: I hardly care about the camera, and don't mind the bump.
SSD: it's user replaceable (contrary to the laptop). Problem is that it's a size that it's not currently available for purchase so we need to see if it becomes freely available (and it will probably cost quite a bit)
Weight and screen size: This is more tricky. Ipad pro 12.9 is very similar, once you add the keyboard, to the surface pro X (the screen surface is actually a bit more on the ipad). Having said that. Surface lacks an equivalent to the 11in/10.5in ipad pro. Which for me is the sweet spot for on the go use (business meetings, trains, planes etc.). So the pro can be much more portable...
Lastly, the pro x seem to lack on of the big advantages that Windows has over ipados, being able to run dropbox with local syncing... This is a dealbreaker for me, until Dropbox makes its software compatible with Windows on Arm (and no, it does not work with emulation...)
First, 2 things.
- Contrary to probably most people here, I am perfectly fine with Windows. It has its issues, but the main one for me (forced updates) has been resolved with the latest version. And it also has advantages over IpadOS.
- I don't care about a device being a real tablet or not. I want a device to meet my needs (and laying on a sofa is not what I do with any of my devices)
I have many ipads (see my signature) and a surface 3 and pro 3 (sold my surface 2) and a hp elite (surface pro 4 clone)
Keyboard and kickstand: I have always been a fan of the kickstand, as it's ideal for watching videos, but for everything else I have come to realize it's not a very good design. A surface style device takes more room on a desk than an equivalent laptop and it's (for the same reason) uncomfortable on your lap. To use a French way of saying it, it's a false good idea. Over time I have come to appreciate ipad keyboard cover design and I now only use ipads with keyboards. The keyboards acts like a kickstand (even if just at one angle) with the added benefit of having the keyboard always available like a laptop, but taking less space and little weight. I have writing on glass, so this is ideal for me. Surface instead the keyboard is hanging when you move it around (or you need to close it, putting it in standby every time).
In business lunches for instance, the ipad pro is great to use on a restaurant table. It takes less space than a laptop (let a alone a surface...) and if you spill something on the keyboard it's not an issue...
Having said that I wish it was backlit. Also the 3rd gen pro keyboard makes it no longer lappable, that's why I returned it.
Power and Battery Life: We don't know yet. My guess it that SQ1 is going to be on pad with A12X, but we'll see. Battery life is probably going to be on par or slightly less than ipad. Again, tests aren't out yet.
RAM: pros need more RAM, 4GB is fine for now, but as pro apps arrive we need more. Especially if as some point ipados adopts floating windows. I won't buy anything new under 6GB.
Fast charge: you can already fast charge an ipad pro with a mac charger. It's not as quick as the pro x, but the faster you go the more you wear the battery, even under 80% (touch the ipad while fast charging and see how much hotter it becomes)
Ports: No doubt surface wins. And you forgot to mention it has surface connect. So you don't even need usb c to charge.
Promotion: I don't care about it.
Stylus: out of the box the surface pen is superior to the pencil, at least the first gen on. Better feel than the plastic on glass feel of the pencil, lighter and shorter, more like a real pen. But if you put a screen protector (Paperlike or not) the pencil feels much better and the second gen is as good or better than the surface pen. I still don't know how the new slim (flat) surface pen feels. We'll see.
Camera: I hardly care about the camera, and don't mind the bump.
SSD: it's user replaceable (contrary to the laptop). Problem is that it's a size that it's not currently available for purchase so we need to see if it becomes freely available (and it will probably cost quite a bit)
Weight and screen size: This is more tricky. Ipad pro 12.9 is very similar, once you add the keyboard, to the surface pro X (the screen surface is actually a bit more on the ipad). Having said that. Surface lacks an equivalent to the 11in/10.5in ipad pro. Which for me is the sweet spot for on the go use (business meetings, trains, planes etc.). So the pro can be much more portable...
Lastly, the pro x seem to lack on of the big advantages that Windows has over ipados, being able to run dropbox with local syncing... This is a dealbreaker for me, until Dropbox makes its software compatible with Windows on Arm (and no, it does not work with emulation...)
pro x is another piece of garbage that cant run any apps that will be abandoned by ms like in the past.
if one thing i have learned from microsoft , its they will never support their stuff. and you will most likely be left in the dust.
Going to the heart of @booksbooks question, I answered: no, the iPad doesn’t need a built in kickstand.
The current approach of buying a case with some kind of stand means that people have choice in the type and range of stand they want their iPad to have. A built-in stand is both forced on everyone and would stop you having a case on the back of the iPad.
The current approach of buying a case with some kind of stand means that people have choice in the type and range of stand they want their iPad to have. A built-in stand is both forced on everyone and would stop you having a case on the back of the iPad.
this is not windows RT
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Cases with kickstands exist. I have one for my 12.9 pro from UAG. But it makes it heavier than the smart cover.
Also, the second gen logitech keyboard for the pro has a built in kickstand that works also in portait mode (contrary to the surface, which is 90° in portrait mode).
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Windows RT springs to mind. It's the same kind of challenge for MS now, to run Windows on ARM and get developer support. If they couldn't do it then, I don't see how they can now. At least Apple has developers on its side, AND an in-house, industry leading ARM silicone operation that nobody can compete with as of today.
It's a shame too because the Surface RT really appealed to me at the time, it was Microsoft's shot at having a real iPad competitor of their own. If I was them I'd even have paid grants to big developers to bring their best apps out for it and have a support agreement. A little like Apple did with MS Office back in the day, which was huge in making the Mac 'useful'..
Also, the Microsoft Kin device, promising but was cancelled. And of course, Windows Phone, but it had the same issue, lack of support from developers / lack of interest from consumers who couldn't use their favourite apps, a vicious circle.
It's a shame because Microsoft can build good quality hardware. All they're lacking is a good ecosystem where both Google and Apple have one. They threw away their chance / attempts at creating one. Now they've held their hands up and welcomed Android.. sad times.
What the iPad needs IS:
1. better quality, bug free OS
2. pro apps
3. more power through USB-C port to support more external devices.
4. and for the love of .... FIX the FILES app... so that people are actually able to use it and copy files reliably to and from external madia reasonably fast.
5. maybe bettr low latency pencil support for 3rd party apps
the 11 inch iPad Pro still has best in class hardware (processor + graphics + screen + battery + size).
If I wanted the 13 inch one, I'd probably go for a surface. Mostly because it allows me to manage and copy files at USB3 speeds... But if I go 13 inch I might as well go for a sleek ultrabook with more ports and better keyboard.
1. better quality, bug free OS
2. pro apps
3. more power through USB-C port to support more external devices.
4. and for the love of .... FIX the FILES app... so that people are actually able to use it and copy files reliably to and from external madia reasonably fast.
5. maybe bettr low latency pencil support for 3rd party apps
the 11 inch iPad Pro still has best in class hardware (processor + graphics + screen + battery + size).
If I wanted the 13 inch one, I'd probably go for a surface. Mostly because it allows me to manage and copy files at USB3 speeds... But if I go 13 inch I might as well go for a sleek ultrabook with more ports and better keyboard.
This a has nothing to do with Windows RT. Windows on Arm has a built-in emulator that allows you to install virtually any 32bit app (and for 95%+ of Windows software there is a 32bit version). This is the same emulator that allows to run 32bit apps on 64bit systems on any intel and AMD pc, except it's not a hardware one like on intel/AMD, but a software version of it. This has been the case for the past 2 years. Except that until now Snapdragon 835 and 850 were too slow to run apps in emulation at a decent speed. 850 was pretty good with native apps (such as edge and office), but still slow in emulation. So Qualcomm made a beefed up version of the 855, called 8cX, that is on par with a quad core i5 speed. Microsoft in turn, took the 8cX, increased the TDP and added AI so that even on emulation this thing can be compared to an i5 chip. So this does not need developers to adopt it (by the way in the meantime MS made a new Edge based on Chromium that works with any Chrome extension and Firefox made a native ARM version).
We are still waiting for benchmarks and real life tests, but people should stop comparing this to Windows RT, you are spreading misinformation.
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Well, one runs a tablet software and one runs an desktop OS. There are two different markets IMO. For example, the iPad compliments my MacBook Pro. The surface is a full blown laptop/desktop replacement. Sure some can get away with replacing their laptop with an iPad, but IMO they are two very different workflows. I pretty much use my laptop as a desktop that stays docked 24/7. My iPad is essentially my laptop and I can get light task completed on the go.
That's true. The Surface is, for all intents and purposes, a PC laptop without the keyboard. And many real PC users and laptop users would also argue that the Surface devices make a poor replacement for their workflows too, as with the iPad only lifestyle, the Surface devices require an equally big change to workflow and economics. Some hail it as 'the ultimate device', but many owners past and present tend to talk about it like 'a device that's not really pro for anything'..
Luckily, I can get by on iPad only.
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Emulators are not stable or efficient or reliable enough in the real world to run serious tasks, and definitely won't on Windows. Comparing Qualcomm chips to Apple's iPad chips... oh boy. They'll get eaten alive. Apple is far ahead on here. And sure, if what your saying didn't suffer from these issues, it'd still be ancient unoptimised Windows desktop apps,way out of their league making for a poor user experience and needing one to run around with a USB mouse plugged into their tablet .. 'the future' alright...
Windows RT failed because it was on ARM.
Developers didn't support ARM.
Users didn't buy it.
It's very likely that the same will happen with this, even with their cute little emulator.
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iPad OS is going in the right direction. Bugs will be fixed, though 13 is incredibly buggy as it goes. They're still yet to release an update like Microsoft did deleting all of the users files, mind you....
iPad OS has pro apps: Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer, Luma Fusion, full Photoshop is coming, Shapr3D CAD and tonnes more... It's really on the developers for that. The user base is there, the chip performance is there. If it doesn't come to iPad, good luck getting it on ARM Windows for one single device...
The USB-C port will eventually become Thunderbolt, the sooner the better. External drive support will also catch up as iPad OS 13 is stabilised.
The Files app is fine, assuming speed improves which it will..
The Apple Pencil has the lowest latency of any tablet input device in its class... it continually improves.
100% this.
As someone who uses 3 iPads all for different reasons I have different cases that suit the needs of that iPad (One is in a rugged case, the other a slim plastic backed case with fold-able cover and the large Pro has no back case but a Smart Keyboard. 2 of those cases offer kickstand like functionality. If I need to re-purpose these devices I'll just buy a different case. I would hate a permanent kickstand to be fixed on to the back of the iPad, if anything it removes flexibility by introducing hardware components people may not need. The iPad is about simplicity of computing and design.
Such a dramatic title for such a subjective opinion. Personally, I like how Surface Pro X looks, but I prefer the minimalist look of iPad Pro. As for the kickstand - it would add thickness to the iPad. It’s Apple’s way to create a “naked robotic core” (as they call it on ATP podcasts), something you customize with accessories. One could prefer one approach to the other, but saying the iPad design needs to significantly evolve? Lol, come on.
I could say that Surface needs to significantly evolve, since it doesn’t have wireless pen charging like iPad does. And how it doesn’t have beautiful rounded corners like the iPad does. And how it’s not thin as the iPad.
At the end of the day, Pencil beats the Ntrig for art in very important areas which is a lot more important than the kickstand, so I’d say it’s Microsoft who needs to evolve their products - but, again, it all comes down to personal preference and requirement.
I could say that Surface needs to significantly evolve, since it doesn’t have wireless pen charging like iPad does. And how it doesn’t have beautiful rounded corners like the iPad does. And how it’s not thin as the iPad.
At the end of the day, Pencil beats the Ntrig for art in very important areas which is a lot more important than the kickstand, so I’d say it’s Microsoft who needs to evolve their products - but, again, it all comes down to personal preference and requirement.
Luckily, the Surface Pro X doesn't use an emulation layer but a translation layer. It's silicone based, and nothing like the x86 emulators for PPC Macs. The API calls are translated (not emulated) at a close-to-native speed.
Also, Windows RT didn't fail due to the ARM architecture. It failed due to only running Windows Store apps. To develop an app for Windows Store for any architecture took time and the payoff was minimal. To compile it for ARM took 5 minutes and checking a checkbox.
This notion that some of you have that a device must be all things to all people in order to be successful confuses me. A Surface device need not be a complete replacement for a computer in order to be successful, it can exist and strive as something to supplement workflows just as well as the iPad does. The iPad certainly has many shortcomings just as Surface Pros do, so this pissing match thing is rather absurd.
I used a Surface Go for almost a year, then switched to the iPad Pro. It's nice to have a built in stand but then again if it breaks or something, it's not nice. I bought a case from Amazon for $15 (CAN) and now I have a kickstand!
- Drivers for hardware, games and apps will only work if they're designed for a Windows 10 ARM-based PC. For more info, check with the hardware manufacturer or the organisation that developed the driver. Drivers are software programs that communicate with hardware devices — they're commonly used for antivirus and antimalware software, printing or PDF software, assistive technologies, CD and DVD utilities, and virtualisation software. If a driver doesn’t work, the app or hardware that relies on it won’t work either (at least not fully). Peripherals and devices only work if the drivers they depend on are built into Windows 10, or if the hardware developer has released ARM64 drivers for the device.
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You are confusing 2 different things. The translation is what Microsoft has created to convert (relatively easily) x64 apps into native ARM apps. To run native x86 they use a software emulator that is based on on the X86 emulator.
The pc hardware will be working fine, what may not work are some external peripherals. Mouse, keyboards, monitors and similar peripherals will all work with no issues, but other peripherals like old (non wifi) printers, scanner etc. will probably not work. Most of what you cite (antivirus, pdf printing, assistive technologies) is already built into windows on arm, but third party software may not be compatible or only partially.
Windows on ARM is an important move for Microsoft, as it help diversify from that almost monopoly that is Intel and will also push Intel to improve to stay competitive or simply survive. The same will happen with MacOS. It's just a matter of time.
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What I need is to be able to fully use UHS-II cards formatted to exFAT in a way I'm sure data stored on them will not be corrupted. Right now I'm back to 2009 in terms of card-to-device transfer speed times and back to 2000 for device-to-card...
That said - I'd gladly pay apple 50$ more per device for an implementation of full fledged USB-3 on ipads. Thunderbolt - even better - but I need it now, not in two years time.
Luma Fusion, useful as it may be, is a far cry from the likes of premiere. It is super fast and apparently very well optimised - I'd give it that, and probably mostly fine for vlogging and anything which does not require a lot of post-processing. Very promising for sure, but not there yet. Still - worth buying for sure.
Affinity suite - cool, but the Apple pen has noticeable lag in both of these vs stock apple apps.
Good to have these apps on the iPad, though. Nice for single project jobs, even if they are not ideal for batch editing (imho). Still, I'll buy every version just to support Adobe's competition if for nothing else.
Photoshop will shift the landscape quite a bit. But again - it's not here yet.
Still lacking:
tethered camera support for canon/nikon/sony/fuji/etc. Could be wi-fi for all I care, but AC+mimo speeds at minimum, most cameras are stuck at b/g/n.
What about a pro raw editor LR mobile is not there yet after a good few years - and right now it has virtually no competition.
Fast way of renaming files?
Not so sure about the bugs.... or QC really sucks at Apple.
Why would the files app insist on loading all previes for image files before showing me the file list is beyond me. For sth like 64GB folder full of images it takes a while... What about disappearing folders/files if you leave the app running in the background? What about a system crash when using high power draw SSDs. I refuse to believe apple is unaware of these - I mean - surely they must have used iPads, right? Or do they really treat this as more of a "there here's your external storage support, now bugger off" sentimental project to bring back the cool vibe of 1990', paraphrasing Federighi. But all in all, one might expect that hardware-software integration company would have figured out the by now intricacies of copying files reliably...
Sorry for the bitter tone, but they are advertising the iPad 11 inch as a professional device to replace PCs/laptops in 2019, and they seem to completely overlook the basic stuff. Also gone is the "it just works" - it just doesn't - I don't really care if it's a bug or a feature.
The closed kickstand takes up no room--you could make a third party folding case that
covered it. But why? The surface stand cover keyboard is great--the apple smart cover
is garbage. And, no trackpad for the smart cover
The Surface Pen for the X IS WIRELESS.
The corners of the SPX ARE ROUNDED.
How does the Apple pencil beat the Surface Pen. Explain, specifically, how. Demonstrate and prove how it beats the Surface Pen.
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(1) – "No, you do not.", and (2) – "Apple never marketed it as such."
Beyond that you present your "personal experience" as "statistical evidence" in an effort to make it support your personal assumptions, and infuse the whole shebang with a hefty portion of unquantifiable and highly subjective personal observations like "uninspired" or "blocky".
What in the world could possibly lead you to believe that a $265B company would not have considered, most likely even have built in form of prototypes, a hardware feature one of their competitors had from day one of that product's launch?
I'd have understood a question, or even a complaint along the lines of "I'd really love a Surface-like kickstand built into my next iPad", but what you have asserted here is little more than thinly veiled clickbait.
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