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As civil engineer I have no use (I want to, but the software won't allow the pro apps I need for my work) and my GF as an IT developer also finds no use (she wants to, but the software won't allow her to install the bunch of pro apps). What does "pro" stand for then?!?
In Apple language. “Pro” mean “better”. So iPad Pro is better than iPad (which it is). Could as well be named iPad+. As researcher and University teacher, iPad is a great tool for teaching, note taking and annotating pdfs. Is that Pro? At least I earn money. The Pro line contains the 12.9 which is great for pdf annotations with pencil of course.
 

StefanBK

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Some of you really have the blinders on with your Apple hate. There are SO MANY brands out there that use the word "Pro" in their higher end products. Rather than get your knickers all twisted up about how offended you are that YOU are a "pro" but don't feel a certain product is pro enough for you, how about just don't buy it and shut up? Why do people feel the need to dump all over others about the products they buy? Who cares?
It's not Apple hate - it's pure frustration with having such a high-end piece of technology crippled in such a software way.
If only I could use iPad Pro as a Mac, making it my "single source of truth" device for office/home/anywhere work, reading/browsing/gaming on my sofa / in bed, then I would gladly give $10K to have it.
 
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StefanBK

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In Apple language. “Pro” mean “better”. So iPad Pro is better than iPad (which it is). Could as well be named iPad+. As researcher and University teacher, iPad is a great tool for teaching, note taking and annotating pdfs. Is that Pro? At least I earn money. The Pro line contains the 12.9 which is great for pdf annotations with pencil of course.
Well, on all of their events Tim Cook refers "pro users", while the target aren't actually pros.Their target are just rich-and-not-so-pro users!!!
 

Vermelho

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People are complaining about the term “pro” for lack of capabilities for their hobbies lol.
If you’re a pro you will research the well documented features and software capabilities of your tools prior to purchase.
The iPad has powerful professional tools for specific applications, but it should be obvious that it isn’t appropriate for many others.
Expanded connectivity and 3rd party software applications are lagging beyond hardware capabilities, but that’s hardly surprising. If you don’t have a strong use for the pen and portability, or at least confidence in software coverage of your needs, then it’s an expensive recreational gadget.
 

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As civil engineer I have no use (I want to, but the software won't allow the pro apps I need for my work) and my GF as an IT developer also finds no use (she wants to, but the software won't allow her to install the bunch of pro apps). What does "pro" stand for then?!?

But the iPad Pro is not advertised as a software development tool. It would be like using a hammer to drive screws. Sure, you can 'drive' screws with a hammer, but don't expect it to be usable. It's just not done, except by people that only have hammers. Yeah, I have way to many different sized hammers, but they aren't for driving different size screws.

As far as 'pro' civil engineer apps, that's not Apple's fault, that's the developers for not taking the time to make the apps. I'm sure if they thought that it was worth it for them, there would be more apps out there.

It's all about the tool, and the recognition that it's not Stanley's fault that a hammer can't drive screws.
 
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PinkyMacGodess

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People are complaining about the term “pro” for lack of capabilities for their hobbies lol.
If you’re a pro you will research the well documented features and software capabilities of your tools prior to purchase.
The iPad has powerful professional tools for specific applications, but it should be obvious that it isn’t appropriate for many others.
Expanded connectivity and 3rd party software applications are lagging beyond hardware capabilities, but that’s hardly surprising. If you don’t have a strong use for the pen and portability, or at least confidence in software coverage of your needs, then it’s an expensive recreational gadget.

That is what I always told clients, and when I worked retail as well: Find the software that you have to run, see what it takes to actually be usable on that platform, and let that guide what hardware you buy. Too many people buy something, and then find out that the software either won't run on it, or runs like a dead horse.
 

PinkyMacGodess

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Why label something as "Pro", when the software won't let you do pro stuff. What person would buy and use iPad "Pro" just for reading/browsing and video/music playing?!?

Look at the Apple website. They list four iPad models. From right to left they are: The Mini, The iPad, the iPad Air, and the iPad Pro.

The Mini is small. It's 'mini', a smaller iPad. The iPad is, well, an iPad. The iPad Air is a lighter version of the iPad(?). The iPad Pro has a large screen version, plus they have more memory capacity choices than any other iPad, plus there are a lot of other things that the iPad Pro has that the others don't. The 'Pro' means size for the larger one, and size in capacity. The 'Pro' means external keyboard connectivity. The 'Pro' means more speakers. It's above and beyond the other models, in some cases way above. I'd call that 'Pro', for lack of a better word. Should they have called it 'Big'? Or 'Biggie'? Maybe 'Monster'? 'Pro' fits. I wouldn't buy a 2Tb iPad for just reading and listening/watching content. A graphics designer would probably consider that 'small'...
 

sparksd

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Look at the Apple website. They list four iPad models. From right to left they are: The Mini, The iPad, the iPad Air, and the iPad Pro.

The Mini is small. It's 'mini', a smaller iPad. The iPad is, well, an iPad. The iPad Air is a lighter version of the iPad(?). The iPad Pro has a large screen version, plus they have more memory capacity choices than any other iPad, plus there are a lot of other things that the iPad Pro has that the others don't. The 'Pro' means size for the larger one, and size in capacity. The 'Pro' means external keyboard connectivity. The 'Pro' means more speakers. It's above and beyond the other models, in some cases way above. I'd call that 'Pro', for lack of a better word. Should they have called it 'Big'? Or 'Biggie'? Maybe 'Monster'? 'Pro' fits. I wouldn't buy a 2Tb iPad for just reading and listening/watching content. A graphics designer would probably consider that 'small'...

Exactly - the marketeer's dilemma: what do I call this product to differentiate it from other models? The naming is marketing, nothing more.
 

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It's not Apple hate - it's pure frustration with having such a high-end piece of technology crippled in such a software way.
If only I could use iPad Pro as a Mac, making it my "single source of truth" device for office/home/anywhere work, reading/browsing/gaming on my sofa / in bed, then I would gladly give $10K to have it.
Stop looking at everything you dislike as a vendetta against you personally and just use the tool that does what you need. It's not that complicated.
 

alien3dx

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Look at the Apple website. They list four iPad models. From right to left they are: The Mini, The iPad, the iPad Air, and the iPad Pro.

The Mini is small. It's 'mini', a smaller iPad. The iPad is, well, an iPad. The iPad Air is a lighter version of the iPad(?). The iPad Pro has a large screen version, plus they have more memory capacity choices than any other iPad, plus there are a lot of other things that the iPad Pro has that the others don't. The 'Pro' means size for the larger one, and size in capacity. The 'Pro' means external keyboard connectivity. The 'Pro' means more speakers. It's above and beyond the other models, in some cases way above. I'd call that 'Pro', for lack of a better word. Should they have called it 'Big'? Or 'Biggie'? Maybe 'Monster'? 'Pro' fits. I wouldn't buy a 2Tb iPad for just reading and listening/watching content. A graphics designer would probably consider that 'small'...
old times , they said apple good for development not have many size . now as you know iphone - mini , normal , pro ? , pro max ? and ipad new os mini 5 and 6 diff layout , normal ,air , pro ? waiit where my pro max ipad ? hm.
 

rui no onna

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old times , they said apple good for development not have many size . now as you know iphone - mini , normal , pro ? , pro max ? and ipad new os mini 5 and 6 diff layout , normal ,air , pro ? waiit where my pro max ipad ? hm.

iPhone Pro = iPad Pro 11-inch

iPhone Pro Max = iPad Pro 12.9-inch
 
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rui no onna

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I wouldn't buy a 2Tb iPad for just reading and listening/watching content.

Lol, I would. Not quite 2TB (unless it’s discounted by a lot) but I do have 1TB cellular. Long series of manga and comics take up quite a bit of space plus it’s nice to have favorite movies/TV/anime on hand when power or internet is down or too slow.

My home usage is 90-95% iPad, 5-10% PC. To me, it’s worth splurging more on the iPad to get the config that works best for my usage rather than get a tricked out laptop that would just sit in a drawer.
 

sparksd

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Lol, I would. Not quite 2TB (unless it’s discounted by a lot) but I do have 1TB cellular. Long series of manga and comics take up quite a bit of space plus it’s nice to have favorite movies/TV/anime on hand when power or internet is down or too slow.

My home usage is 90-95% iPad, 5-10% PC. To me, it’s worth splurging more on the iPad to get the config that works best for my usage rather than get a tricked out laptop that would just sit in a drawer.

That's really the key to all of this - get the device you like best to use, whether it be an iPad, laptop, desktop, phone, whatever.
 

Ludatyk

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spiderman0616

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Wow… I expect that retail price to make a steep decline quickly! Or perhaps plenty of giveaways during promotions…
I really think it's just more that Google doesn't respect their professional audio listeners enough to give them pro features. ;)
 

chevyboy60013

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Just chiming in to comment on how freaking cool this job sounds.
It is an awesome job, however the US government has to put their nose where it does not belong and require you to pay $175 and take an aviation knowledge test that has nothing to do with flying drones, but more so about airspace and airspace regulations that really do not apply to drone pilots since we cannot fly over 400 feet, have to keep it in sight and cannot fly near airports…. Like if someone wants to fly near an airport and cause a major crash, taking the test and being licensed will stop them? Works real good with more gun control laws….. not even required to do any form of drone flight test to prove you can fly one, what is the point of any test then? At least when you get a driving license, you have to do the written test and then an actual driving test, which makes perfect sense.
 

PinkyMacGodess

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Lol, I would. Not quite 2TB (unless it’s discounted by a lot) but I do have 1TB cellular. Long series of manga and comics take up quite a bit of space plus it’s nice to have favorite movies/TV/anime on hand when power or internet is down or too slow.

My home usage is 90-95% iPad, 5-10% PC. To me, it’s worth splurging more on the iPad to get the config that works best for my usage rather than get a tricked out laptop that would just sit in a drawer.

But I said 'I wouldn't'. I can see why someone would want to buy a 2tb iPad Pro, they can afford it? But practicality? Oh whatever...
 

rui no onna

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But I said 'I wouldn't'. I can see why someone would want to buy a 2tb iPad Pro, they can afford it? But practicality? Oh whatever...

Whether it's practical or not depends on the individual. Mind, I've seen the 2TB iPads go on sale for same or lower price than 1TB on Amazon.

Granted, I've got a 20TB NAS that's full and requires upgrading and I probably semi-qualify for https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/
 
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LibbyLA

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That is what I always told clients, and when I worked retail as well: Find the software that you have to run, see what it takes to actually be usable on that platform, and let that guide what hardware you buy. Too many people buy something, and then find out that the software either won't run on it, or runs like a dead horse.
That has been what I’ve told people since the 1980s. Don’t fall in love with the hardware. Choose your software and buy what it runs on. You’d think that would be common sense but apparently it isn’t.
 
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