iPad Pro iPad has become quite useless and I regret purchasing it

[sparksd]

Damn! this looks really nice and useful.

Yeah, the problem with the one in the original picture is that is has a large lip covering the lower part of the tablet - it's clearer in the image here:

https://www.ebay.com/p/1052156887

Something to consider when looking at these - there are a lot of different ones available.

 

[Night Spring]

Yeah, the problem with the one in the original picture is that is has a large lip covering the lower part of the tablet - it's clearer in the image here:

https://www.ebay.com/p/1052156887

Something to consider when looking at these - there are a lot of different ones available.

Just to be clear, the image I posted isn't the cushion I have. I just posted the first picture I found that was the same general idea. The cushion I have has a much smaller lip, which doesn't block the view of iPad at all.

 

[MrTSolar]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-needs-to-give-us-the-80-max-charge-option-on-the-iphone.2365460/post-31653730

Due to events ^, all I have to say now is:

 

[MrTSolar]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-needs-to-give-us-the-80-max-charge-option-on-the-iphone.2365460/post-31653730

Due to events ^, all I have to say now is:

 

[eicca]

The sad thing is today I tried a Mini 6 at the store and really really liked the form factor. But I have no actual use for it, and they removed the headphone jack.

 

[prospervic]

Huh? What are you basing that on? I don't believe that one bit. And it's pretty condescending.

Methinks he’s calling us “deplorables’.

 

[Mr. Dee]

I have an M1 MacBook Pro and 2017 12.9 iPad Pro. At home in bed, I would say the iPad Pro gets most of my time. If I am cooking dinner or having a meal, its most likely the iPad Pro that will be in the background playing music or listening to PBS news hour. The vast majority of web browsing is done on it. Social media apps for some reason I prefer using on my iPhone. Its truly a media consumption device and you really have to love it to really multi-task on it. I had to sign up for UPS delivery notifications and even though I did it, it felt jarring on the iPad. But with my smart keyboard it does a pretty good job. The iPad will never be a replacement for a conventional desktop OS like Windows or macOS, but it has come a far way. The Apple Pencil, which I also bought was a huge waste of money.

 

[prospervic]

I got a great deal of use out of a first gen iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboard cover as a computer for school. It was just so much more portable than a laptop, and it had a physical keyboard, but I could take handwritten notes without a bulky convertible tablet PC and could use it one handed in portrait mode when standing or when I didn’t have sufficient desk space to use it with the keyboard (without that weird arm hook technique people use to cradle open laptops).

But why are people expecting to find a use case for both an iPad Pro and a MacBook Pro? That’s like buying two MacBook Pros (a 13” and a 16”) and trying to find separate use cases for both. The iPad Pro is a laptop replacement (and probably works as much for many people, as long as their workflows can be reliably replicated or improved upon), so you shouldn’t expect to find a use for it other than as a laptop with convertible features. Buying both and deciding you’d prefer the even larger screen and more beefy hardware of a MacBook Pro (which has the advantage of being directly compatible with your old workflow if you’re not coming from an iPad already) isn’t really a failure of the iPad Pro as much as it is a failure of your mental model as to what the iPad Pro is.

Actually, given its many unique artistic, drawing, handwriting, photography, music creation and performance, kiosk, medical diagnostic, piloting, real estate and other uses, I would say that seeing the iPad Pro as merely a laptop replacement is a “mental model failure”.

 

[prospervic]

Yes, I'm trying to sell it. I am getting offered half the price of it. I'll try and see if I can get a better deal. I have made up my mind to sell it. I still have my air 2 lying around just in case I get fomo

Vermelho might buy it from you.​

 

[Larabee119]

People say iPad is useless.
Samsung: Hold my beer! I’m gonna more useless.
There are multiple ipad tiers and if you only use the m1 ipad for media consumption then it’s a waste of money.
I enjoy every bit of my ipad for content creation (sketching on the go mostly) and it’s a fantastic media device on the airplane.

 

[MajorFubar]

Ah, but that’s the key. People who use an iPad and a desktop Mac seem to like using both (count me in that number), while people who try using an iPad and a laptop Mac can’t seem to make it work.

That's because an iPad + keyboard kind of turns their iPad into a basic laptop which as a desktop Mac user they don't have. So it becomes their primitive Macbook with a touchscreen and keyboard, and does everything they can't do on their desktop Mac.

 

[AppZ.Zero]

Ive got an 6th gen iPad with the Pencil and have thought about upgrading to the 12,9" Pro Model. I am using Word and One Note very extensively but when i take a look at the Price Tag of the 12.9" Pro and the USeCase i have to admit, that its just not worth it. I can do the same on my 6th gen ipad, i would only gain some space on the screen.

I don't a good camera (i dont need a camera at all) on the ipad. I dont need a M1 Chip.

I need good working Software and a good integration into my Microsoft Environment. And thats where Apple is letting the iPad down. iOS is just not right anymore for a device, that would be capable of doing so much more. The Export-Functions and Share Buttons in iOS suck, aren't implement the same in every app. To have to rely on Apps is outdated, to be so limitied in it's features...

The iPad Pro 12.9" could be my daily driver and i would really like to use it that way. But iOS sucks on a device like that.

(I am totaly fine with iOS on my 13 pro max)

 

[XIO[-]OIX]

Now, this will depend on the individual use case but I want to share my experience.

I bought iPad Pro 12.9 M1 6 months ago, I had the Air 2 previously. Initially I used to use it as a multimedia/Youtube device and was so impressed by the display and speakers. But as I bought the MacBook Pro 16, the use case of iPad Pro has completely diminished for me.

I mostly use my laptop and don't even pick up my iPad Pro anymore. I knew beforehand that iPad was severely limited in software. I don't know why this even exists anymore. Even the baseline MacBook Air has good value and could do heck more than the iPad.

Most of my gripes are with the software, it just cannot do much. It doesn't even have a good video player where I can watch local dolby vision content, the ones on the App Store are unnecessarily expensive. On my MacBook I can use Subler to convert an mkv DV file with 4-5 clicks and watch it on the QuickTime player. Everything is unnecessarily complicated on the iPad.

The files app is a hot mess as well on iPadOS 14. I haven't upgraded to the 15 as I have read posts about the battery life gone down to the *******. There isn't even the progress bar for copying/pasting files to and from the iPad and It sometimes fails when doing that. Every time I use the files app, I fold my hand and pray for it to go smoothly. The widgets on the iPadOS 15 has messed up the spacing on the home screen as well. Instead of adding some features the update has been an annoyance for the users. ymmv.

I am not an artist or a gamer. I did thought about picking up the Apple Pencil for the heck of it but I read forum posts about how it doesn't jive well with screen protectors so I just gave up on that idea.

Then I thought I could use it to read books but this damn thing is not that easy to hold or read on without getting fatigued eyes and hands.

It's a shame that such a good hardware is just completely hampered by the bad software experience.

For me, this has been the most regretful purchase I have ever made in my life. I am thinking about selling it but I don't know if it will fetch any good value where I live. I wished I had purchased a Mac mini or the Air instead of the iPad. Another Mac could have actually helped me in web development or other hobbies that I like exploring from time to time.

I suspect you might not be using it propperly. What do you mean by “iPad cant do much”? Yes it can


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Also I think Mbpro and iPad, or rather laptop and ipad are mutually exclusive. If you use one, you dont really need the other one

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Also, Samsung is it you? ?

 

[AppZ.Zero]

Also I think Mbpro and iPad, or rather laptop and ipad are mutually exclusive. If you use one, you dont really need the other one

I dont think this is the case.

If i want to paint something or make fast Notes in a meeting the ipad ist way better.
If i want to build a presentation or work with excel or a scientifici document in word, the laptop is the way to go.

And i think thats what annoys many people. The iPad would be capable of working with full-scale Desktop Apps, but Apple DECIDES that the software will not run on an ipad.

Apple is trying to keep a hard gap between a full scale OS and iOS, and i really dont see the point anymore.

Ofc there is an obvious one: Money. Apple would sell fewer Laptops if the iPad could run Desktop Apps and had a better file Manager and could be more customized. I really think thats the only reason why we dont have a Mac OS running on an iPad.

(If they would release something like that, my Windows-Laptop and Desktop would have a hard time and the 12.9" iPad Pro would be a nobrainer for me)

 

[MajorFubar]

And i think thats what annoys many people. The iPad would be capable of working with full-scale Desktop Apps, but Apple DECIDES that the software will not run on an ipad.

Apple is trying to keep a hard gap between a full scale OS and iOS, and i really dont see the point anymore.

Ofc there is an obvious one: Money. Apple would sell fewer Laptops if the iPad could run Desktop Apps and had a better file Manager and could be more customized. I really think thats the only reason why we dont have a Mac OS running on an iPad.

^^^ this exactly. When the iPad ran A-series chips and Macs ran Intel you kind of thought ah well perhaps iPads just simply can't run a desktop-class OS and desktop-class apps without everything grinding to a stuttering halt, and so that's why we have iPadOS and its amateur-grade apps and file management (in comparison to desktop-class apps and MacOS).

Then they put the M1 processor into both, and suddenly it became obvious the iPad only runs a crippled OS with amateur-grade software by choice.

 

[MajorFubar]

Apple seem scared of putting MacOS on an iPad presumably because they saw Microsoft's attempt to make a one-for-all OS tank in front of their eyes. Yet we've already passed the point where the architecture in them is way over specified for the OS and apps available to them. M1 Mac's p*ss all over demanding AV apps like ProTools, Logic, Final Cut, Premiere Pro and After Effects: the software behind all the songs you listen to and all the films you watch. While iPads get to run Cubasis and Luma Fusion...

 

[sparksd]

Just to be clear, the image I posted isn't the cushion I have. I just posted the first picture I found that was the same general idea. The cushion I have has a much smaller lip, which doesn't block the view of iPad at all.

I assumed as much. Not sure why anyone would buy the pictured one. Would certainly make swiping up a pain!

 

[Night Spring]

Apple seem scared of putting MacOS on an iPad presumably because they saw Microsoft's attempt to make a one-for-all OS tank in front of their eyes. Yet we've already passed the point where the architecture in them is way over specified for the OS and apps available to them. M1 Mac's p*ss all over running demanding AV apps like ProTools, Logic, Final Cut, Premiere Pro and After Effects: the software behind all the songs you listen to and all the films you watch. While iPads get to run Cubasis and Luma Fusion...

The problem with running MacOS on iPad, is that if you do that, it'll basically turn into a laptop with touchscreen and detachable keyboard. The problem with Microsoft's attempts at making a one-for-all OS that run on both desktop and tablet, is that touchscreen UI becomes an afterthought. So you get a so-so laptop (because detachable or foldable keyboard just isn't as good as a regular laptop keyboard), and a so-so tablet (because software isn't optimized for tablet). If Apple put MacOS on the iPad, the iPad will also turn into a so-so laptop and a so-so tablet. Unless they allow it to switch to iOS when in tablet mode.

I had hoped that with time, Apple would be able to grow iOS into a system that is as full-featured and powerful as MacOS, but with touch interface. However, they seem to have stalled. I think one reason is the physical limitations of the tablet form. Like, if I'm editing a complex document, I want a bigger screen than even the biggest iPad Pro. I don't like doing that on a laptop even. I want a full-size desktop monitor. I suspect that's the case with a lot of professional computer work -- they are best done on a full-size monitor. And while there are people who want/need to do that kind of work on the go, as people have been saying, the laptop already fulfills that need, and so there's little incentive for developers to port professional apps to the touchscreen interface. I suspect that's why even Apple hasn't yet gotten around to making iPad versions of their professional apps.

 

[MajorFubar]

I had hoped that with time, Apple would be able to grow iOS into a system that is as full-featured and powerful as MacOS, but with touch interface. However, they seem to have stalled. I think one reason is the physical limitations of the tablet form.

I think another reason is it would increase confusion and blur the lines even further regarding the purpose of laptop vs tablet. Put MacOS on an iPad Pro, give it a keyboard and mouse, and what you've effectively done is invalidate the purpose of the cheaper Macbooks, which are basically then just an iPad without the touchscreen and with a permanently-attached keyboard. Apple will have thought through all these considerations, and more. I get that.

But the M-series processors are so darned powerful that no software out there is really making use of their potential in an iPad.

 

[arvinsim]

I didn't regret purchasing an iPad. I regretted purchasing an iPad Pro.

Should've just gone with the iPad Mini.

 

[Mackilroy]

^^^ this exactly. When the iPad ran A-series chips and Macs ran Intel you kind of thought ah well perhaps iPads just simply can't run a desktop-class OS and desktop-class apps without everything grinding to a stuttering halt, and so that's why we have iPadOS and its amateur-grade apps and file management (in comparison to desktop-class apps and MacOS).

Then they put the M1 processor into both, and suddenly it became obvious the iPad only runs a crippled OS with amateur-grade software by choice.

Sounds like your expectations for iPads could use some recalibrating. Have you ever tried Procreate? Shapr3D? Ferrite? They’re all excellent, and hardly amateur. Nor are they the only quality iPad apps. Is your phone crippled because it isn’t trying to be a laptop? No. Similarly, the iPad isn’t crippled. My iPad serves a distinct niche from my MBP, and does so far better than my MBP could do if I tried to shoehorn it into a role better suited for a tablet.

 

[MrTSolar]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-needs-to-give-us-the-80-max-charge-option-on-the-iphone.2365460/post-31653730

Due to events ^, all I have to say now is:

 

[AppZ.Zero]

Similarly, the iPad isn’t crippled.

Think different.

 

[MajorFubar]

Sounds like your expectations for iPads could use some recalibrating. Have you ever tried Procreate? Shapr3D? Ferrite? They’re all excellent, and hardly amateur. Nor are they the only quality iPad apps. Is your phone crippled because it isn’t trying to be a laptop? No. Similarly, the iPad isn’t crippled. My iPad serves a distinct niche from my MBP, and does so far better than my MBP could do if I tried to shoehorn it into a role better suited for a tablet.

It's no real surprise that apps like ProCreate obviously benefit from something with a touch-interface, to be fair. They're designed for it. I've not seen Shapr3D. But I have seen Ferrite: it's strictly amateur-grade, on par with the free 'Cakewalk by Bandlab' on PCs.

iPad Pro hardware has the power to run pro-grade apps like the full version of Office, Adobe Suite, Logic, Final Cut, ProTools, and so on. So why are they just not there? For the money you can spend on one, they should be an option.

I don't consider my phone to be at all competing with a desktop computer, it's almost apples an oranges, whereas Apple are literally advertising iPads as computer replacements.

 

[Isamilis]

I didn't regret purchasing an iPad. I regretted purchasing an iPad Pro.

Should've just gone with the iPad Mini.

I buy iPad Pro for the promotion screen and M1 (future proof). The price for 256gb in my country is $100 difference with iPad Air 256gb with better display (need to read a lot), speaker, processor and faster thunderbolt 3. No regrets so far. I used mostly as tablet.