Looked at this in YouTube. In the sidebar, a link to a glowing review of the Mini 6 ("You SHOULD BUY the iPad Mini 6 Today!").
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Looked at this in YouTube. In the sidebar, a link to a glowing review of the Mini 6 ("You SHOULD BUY the iPad Mini 6 Today!").
This is the best depiction of the jelly effect I've seen so far:
* Video is timestamped to start at 7:20
* Scrolling needs to be in portrait mode
* I really wanted to buy this iPad mini but I don't think I can do it when I'm primarily buying it for reading ebooks and articles
* Video is timestamped to start at 7:20
* Scrolling needs to be in portrait mode
* I really wanted to buy this iPad mini but I don't think I can do it when I'm primarily buying it for reading ebooks and articles
No reply from Apple yet? I really hope we hear soon. I’m waiting as long as I can before my 14-day window closes. Holding out hope 🤞
Wow - that would drive me totally insane..
I've not seen anything even remotely like that on either of our 5's in the house
Try the iPad mini 5 in landscape - some have the same issue with the 5 in that orientation, although not as pronounced.
Oh believe me - no need to go try - I'm on the thing constantly - never seen anything like that (I wouldn't keep an iPad that did something like that - that kind of stuff makes me go crazy)
I think the real key here is the switch to it happening in the different orientation vs before.
I don’t know if the video is exaggerating the effect somehow or if that display is significantly worse than mine. I can see the jelly scroll effect but it isn’t that bad.
And that’s why I’d be hesitant to exchange the unit. What I have now is nowhere near that bad. I mean, it’s there, and kinda bad, but I’d hate to get one like that!!
It really does make one wonder, as @Rafterman as said, if we have a couple different display manufacturers involved and some of the screens out there are not meeting spec as well as they should be.
Yep that’s what I have seen on iPads I have owned in the past. It’s not unique to the mini 6 and it won’t be fixed either.
It does, but at that speed of scrolling, do I really care? Looking at that video, no.
That's not particularly fast scrolling? I scroll with similar speed all the time. I guess it's subjective.
EDIT: Just saw that you're getting yours on Wednesday. Wait until you see it with your own eyes. You may or may not care.
But do I care about this issue at that scrolling speed? No. But it's subjective so there is no right or wrong on it - it's what bothers the individual that's critical.
Exactly. I looked at it in the Apple Store and on the displays I tried, my feeling was "Meh".
Good demo? He goes so fast, you can't possibly see anything.
I think there is room for improvement in these types of displays. I understand that typically the scan rate is equal to the refresh rate, but this does not necessarily need to be the case. Ideally the scan would be instantaneous (a "global scan") and there would therefore be zero scan skewing, but I am not aware of panels that can do this.
But it is also (theoretically) possible for the scan to occur in a very short period of time, and then pause until the next refresh cycle. So, for example, for a 60Hz refresh rate, the scan of the entire screen could occur within 1/240 second, then pause for the remaining 3/240 second, to give a total 1/60 second refresh time.
This is analogous to the rolling shutter effect of electronic shutters. Ideally the entire camera sensor is read out instantaneously, but in general this is not possible and the sensor is read out sequentially, giving rise to a similar jelly effect (rolling shutter) for moving objects/sensors (when using an electronic shutter, not a mechanical shutter). However the better sensors have faster readout speeds, minimizing this effect. A video may be taken at 30 fps, but the sensor readout is several time faster, for example within 1/240 second, and the sensor essentially pauses until the next frame at 1/30 second.
Not sure if I am making any sense, but I don't think it needs to be assumed that this jelly effect is something due to some inviolable law of physics that is impossible to improve.
I went to the web page you videoed at "THE IMAGINARY ROCKET DRIVING A SMALL-TOWN SPACEPORT" on The Verge:
< https://www.theverge.com/22682978/camden-georgia-spaceport-cumberland-island-faa-astra-rocket-debris >
and had no jelly-scrolling at all, neither in Safari nor Firefox on my 256 GB iPad mini 6. Did you use Google Chrome? I used to have similar problems on my iPads perhaps ten years ago, when fast scrolling resulted in large blocks of the screen lagging behind -- I think that was with the iCab web browser. But iCab hasn't had any problems like that more recently. I think that iPads were quite a bit slower in those days, something like 1/1000th as fast as this A15-powered machine.
It may also depend on how smoothly you scroll whether or not it is noticeable. The line of text is going to tilt for any scrolling with vertical scan lines but if the scrolling is smooth it will be just that, a slight tilt with no wobble. If the scroll is jerky the display will get the jelly effect. Different people may be smoother than others.
I am on the fence about keeping my yet to be shipped order. My normal usage is landscape and I am getting the device as a bed reader mostly for the larger text size and my declining eyesight. I use my iPhone now in landscape which should show text slant and don't notice it. Maybe I am a smooth enough scroller that I minimize the obnoxiousness of the effect.
I am on the fence about keeping my yet to be shipped order. My normal usage is landscape and I am getting the device as a bed reader mostly for the larger text size and my declining eyesight. I use my iPhone now in landscape which should show text slant and don't notice it. Maybe I am a smooth enough scroller that I minimize the obnoxiousness of the effect.
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I see obvious jelly scrolling on my iPad Mini 6 for this web page in portrait orientation (using Safari).
I also see jelly scrolling for this web page on my 11" iPad Pro in portrait orientation, but much less so, because it is a 120Hz display.
btw, it does not bother me at all on either one. Just an observation.
To get the right scrolling speed to best show it, you need to swipe repeatedly up and down the full length of the screen, sort of like wipers on a car, counting:
1 second
2 second
3 second
4 second
where each "second" you do a swipe up plus down. Or maybe a bit slower than this.
Yeah, not exactly a normal way to scroll.
When you say this doesn't happen on other iPad models, was it the exact same text source? Possibly the graphics processor is struggling to properly format this particular page source during scroll.
For me the constant tilting is
This has nothing to do with the GPU. It’s an intrinsic characteristic of LCD (and OLED) displays that is particularly prominent on the mini 6 due to its display refresh orientation.
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