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No prob….let me know if I should do it faster or slower. Like I said, I can clearly see the jelly effect in the videos that other people have posted, but I do not see them in my videos or live. Both sides appear equally “blurry” as I scroll.

Oops…. Forgot to do portrait. Hang on.

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Just to illustrate, in the following still from your video one can see that the horizontal lines become three lines, with the first only on the right and the third only on the left, which creates a slanted wavy effect.

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One thing thing that puzzles me a little. Why exactly is everyone so bent out of shape about this?

It seems like it's a perfectionist thing. After all, you're not reading when you scroll. It's just a 'non-functional', distortion that everyone is up in arms about.

I hear: "I can't unsee it"; "Once you see it it's always present". So when people go test this phenomena, they actually may fear that once they see it it's over: their new Mini will be ruined forever.

Eye of the beholder.
I was thinking the same thing… I don’t read as I scroll. I scroll down and read, scroll and read. The general blurriness you see as you scroll is 100% the result of a 60Hz screen…..much clearer scrolling on a 120 Hz screen.
 
One thing thing that puzzles me a little. Why exactly is everyone so bent out of shape about this?

It seems like it's a perfectionist thing. After all, you're not reading when you scroll. It's just a 'non-functional', distortion that everyone is up in arms about.

I hear: "I can't unsee it"; "Once you see it it's always present". So when people go test this phenomena, they actually may fear that once they see it it's over: their new Mini will be ruined forever.

Eye of the beholder

It's a minor annoyance that may be just an excuse to either trash this device, or undo an impulse buy.
For the people affected, it draw one’s attention (something squiggly/wavy is moving there), distracting from the current task. The effect can also cause nausea due to the mismatch between the expected and the perceived movement, and/or can cause a headache even if one doesn’t consciously see the effect.
 
No prob….let me know if I should do it faster or slower. Like I said, I can clearly see the jelly effect in the videos that other people have posted, but I do not see them in my videos or live. Both sides appear equally “blurry” as I scroll.

Oops…. Forgot to do portrait. Hang on.

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The dark mode and flick scrolling are helping reduce the effect.

When you flick scroll it goes blurry anyway. The biggest problem is continuous scrolling at a medium speed.

You could turn on light mode and scroll a bit slower and smoother (keep finger on screen and drag).

Or you could just continue to live in ignorant bliss. I don't want the mini spoiled for you if you're happy!
 
The dark mode and flick scrolling are helping reduce the effect.

When you flick scroll it goes blurry anyway. The biggest problem is continuous scrolling at a medium speed.

You could turn on light mode and scroll a bit slower and smoother (keep finger on screen and drag).

Or you could just continue to live in ignorant bliss. I don't want the mini spoiled for you if you're happy!

XD

Let’s just leave it at that. I don’t want to train myself to feel buyer’s remorse either
 
How is it normal behavior when literally NO OTHER device in their product line has this issue...?
Is it the higher PPI with a smaller screen? (iPad mini 6 -- 326 PPI) vs 264 for most of the others (https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-11-3rd-gen,ipad-mini-6th-gen,ipad-9th-gen).

I tried to go to an Air 4 from a 2018 iPad Pro 11 earlier this year and ... couldn't. The jagged display and lag with Apple Pencil made it impossible for me personally. I'm using a 2021 iPP 11 now.
 
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Just to illustrate, in the following still from your video one can see that the horizontal lines become three lines, with the first only on the right and the third only on the left, which creates a slanted wavy effect.

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Yes, I see what you are referring to. But this is not visible to me while I’m using my Mini, and I can’t even see it in my own videos.

So maybe for some people it can only be seen if you take stills from video, or slow down video to the point where the lines becomes wavy. Luckily I don’t do either of those things during my 10 hours of iPad Mini usage a day, and apparently I’m not sensitive enough to see it otherwise.
 
Well it's progress. People complain enough about something they either fix it or include it in the next version.

Looks like it's option 2 in this case :D But you need to complain or they will just keep selling the same junk to you.

Having said that, returning it, although an option, seems unnecessary if it doesn't actually effect usage.
 
Yes, I see what you are referring to. But this is not visible to me while I’m using my Mini, and I can’t even see it in my own videos.

So maybe for some people it can only be seen if you take stills from video, or slow down video to the point where the lines becomes wavy. Luckily I don’t do either of those things during my 10 hours of iPad Mini usage a day, and apparently I’m not sensitive enough to see it otherwise.
Is it true, mr President, that you refuse to acknowledge the epidemic that is the Jelly Scroll? Your poll numbers are tanking. The public has no direction.
 
If it is the refresh rate, why am I not seeing it on my mini 2?
I have a Mini 2 also, and it is definitely there, but in landscape orientation instead, and as a result not as obvious.
I also have the Mini 6, where it is more obvious, because it occurs in portrait orientation.

It does not bother me personally in normal usage on either one. The Mini 6 is a nice upgrade from the Mini 2, IMO
 
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I have a Mini 2 also, and it is definitely there, but in landscape orientation instead, and as a result not as obvious.
The hell? I absolutely adore my mini 2. And I refuse to learn to see it.

Why didn't anyone 6itch about it until now? That's been out for 8 years.
 
If you use a mini as a portable document reader then the practical result is that “upgrading” from the 5 to the 6 results in a much worse experience. And all for a record high price.

Apple got lazy and assumed the mini is just a small iPad Air. They didn’t engage their brains. Why show adverts with people holding the mini in one hand when that is the orientation that exposes the massively flawed screen!

This is exactly what is so perplexing.

The jelly is so obvious in portrait mode and they spent a whole bunch of time advertising how great it is for all these professional portrait mode applications in the field

Just another own goal — one of many lately from Apple.
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They would have to redesign the screen assembly and drivers and source new displays (everything rotated 90 degrees), so they don’t really have a choice now; the mistake has been made in the design. We can only hope that they’ll change it around in a future iPad mini.

Yep… This is locked in for the next 2 years at least.
😐😡
 
Apple did everything they could to make it as obvious as possible. Compared to the mini 5 they changed the orientation of the refresh so it would show up in vertical mode and made the screen narrower.

It was such a stupid decision it blows my mind how this got into the final design.

This is what happens when Tim Cook is more concerned with cheaply recycling the designs from other iPads rather than thinking about how the iPad mini is its own device with different use cases.

You don't know any of that. You'd swear this was the Hidenburg, with "the calamities of all calamities." Good god, for those affected, the affect is so subtle and only if you do certain things. People have lost their damn minds.
 
One thing thing that puzzles me a little. Why exactly is everyone so bent out of shape about this?

It seems like it's a perfectionist thing. After all, you're not reading when you scroll. It's just a 'non-functional', distortion that everyone is up in arms about.

I hear: "I can't unsee it"; "Once you see it it's always present". So when people go test this phenomena, they actually may fear that once they see it it's over: their new Mini will be ruined forever.

Eye of the beholder

It's a minor annoyance that may be just an excuse to either trash this device, or undo an impulse buy.

Like the people who exchange 5 iPhones or whatever because the colors arenl't just right.
 
How is it normal behavior when literally NO OTHER device in their product line has this issue...?
Every iPad has this problem, as do the iPhones. As do pretty much every screen, as far as I know, usually noticeable in landscape. The problem is that it refreshes vertically, so it's much more noticeable because of the narrow display in portrait mode.
 
The dark mode and flick scrolling are helping reduce the effect.

When you flick scroll it goes blurry anyway. The biggest problem is continuous scrolling at a medium speed.

You could turn on light mode and scroll a bit slower and smoother (keep finger on screen and drag).

Or you could just continue to live in ignorant bliss. I don't want the mini spoiled for you if you're happy!
I’ve been using Minis exclusively for almost 9 years now, and so far nothing has yet deterred my enjoyment of these little beauties. I still don’t see it when I do continuous scrolling at medium speed keeping my finger on the screen and dragging, and I still don’t see it when use apps or websites that don't have dark modes. I think I’m just not sensitive enough to see this issue, perhaps BECAUSE I’ve using Minis for the last 9 years. :)
 
If you really want to find it, running the display scan skew test can help you in doing so (that's what I had to do). But it is good to know that if you do find it you will most likely be bothered by it.

One thing I did was change the bounce setting on that test to off. This makes the screen just scroll down instead of bouncing back and forth. With bounce on I can clearly see the slanting lines after a few seconds. With bounce off, I don’t see any slanting lines unless I “train” my vision by watching several seconds of the bounce mode first. After waiting 30 seconds or so, testing with bounce off again looks perfectly normal to me. Such a weird effect for me but I’m happy I don’t see it in normal use.
 
Like the people who exchange 5 iPhones or whatever because the colors arenl't just right.
JMHO, but I have to say that this reminds me a bit of people who find fault in a cell phone display by looking at a blank, white screen and putting it next to another display with a blank, white screen. They too apparently cannot “unsee it.” This is not discounting the effect because you could clearly see a difference in the pictures, but I was lucky enough to not to be sensitized to that particular issue and I never spend one second during my normal usage of my cell phone by looking at a blank, white screen. 😆
 
I’ve been using Minis exclusively for almost 9 years now, and so far nothing has yet deterred my enjoyment of these little beauties. I still don’t see it when I do continuous scrolling at medium speed keeping my finger on the screen and dragging, and I still don’t see it when use apps or websites that don't have dark modes. I think I’m just not sensitive enough to see this issue, perhaps BECAUSE I’ve using Minis for the last 9 years. :)

I love the 6. I just wish it had 512GB storage.
 
Please everyone stop disparaging folks for whom this is a major deal breaker.

If you're sensitive to this and can't "not see it" -- it sucks -- be happy you don't have that issue.

If portrait mode usage is of prime importance for you, this is major bummer vs previous Mini's

The world is bad enough without us fighting over this.
Please show some empathy!
 
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