I don't see it on my mini 6 and I don't see it on any of the YouTube videos I've looked at either. Maybe it has to do with how fast one's brain processes visual input. In any event, I don't plan on anguishing over this any more but I do feel for those who ARE able to perceive the issue.
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Apple says this is normal behavior and has no plans to fix this:
arstechnica.com
Newest iPad mini has a subtle scrolling problem [Updated]
Apple says the issue is caused by normal LCD screen behavior.
arstechnica.com
Good to see that ArsTechnica is pushing against Apple’s narrative.Apple says this is normal behavior and has no plans to fix this:
Newest iPad mini has a subtle scrolling problem [Updated]
Apple says the issue is caused by normal LCD screen behavior.
Apple says this is normal behavior and has no plans to fix this:
Newest iPad mini has a subtle scrolling problem [Updated]
Apple says the issue is caused by normal LCD screen behavior.
It's not on my mini 5 (in vertical which is where I do most of my reading). Hence my mini 6 is now returned and I have no plans to repurchase.
So, now I have to decide if I can live with it. Not sure I can.Apple says this is normal behavior and has no plans to fix this:
Newest iPad mini has a subtle scrolling problem [Updated]
Apple says the issue is caused by normal LCD screen behavior.
What happened to Apple? I miss the old Apple.
They would have to redesign the screen assembly and drivers and source new displays (everything rotated 90 degrees), so they don’t really have a choice now; the mistake has been made in the design. We can only hope that they’ll change it around in a future iPad mini.
Here’s the skinny:
So, Apple confirms it’s how they work. So they all have it. On top of that, they are not going to pursue a fix, since that’s how they’re all supposed to operate (according to them).
Apple’s Response to Arstechnica:
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Update, 9/28/2021: In response to our inquiry, Apple has told us that the "jelly scroll" issue on the sixth-generation iPad mini is normal behavior for LCD screens. Because these screens do refresh line-by-line, there is a tiny delay between when the lines at the top of the screen and lines at the bottom are refreshed. This can cause uneven scrolling issues like the ones observed on the iPad.
We maintain that this effect is noticeable on the iPad mini in a way that it is not noticeable on other 60 Hz LCD iPads we've tested, like the iPad Air 4 and the latest $329 iPad. There's also a clear dividing line down the middle of the screen in portrait mode, as observed in our testing and in the video linked below—it's not a problem at the extreme edges of the display. The upshot is that the company doesn't believe there is a hardware or software issue to "fix," and that the screen apparently is the way it is.”
So, Apple confirms it’s how they work. So they all have it. On top of that, they are not going to pursue a fix, since that’s how they’re all supposed to operate (according to them).
Apple’s Response to Arstechnica:
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Update, 9/28/2021: In response to our inquiry, Apple has told us that the "jelly scroll" issue on the sixth-generation iPad mini is normal behavior for LCD screens. Because these screens do refresh line-by-line, there is a tiny delay between when the lines at the top of the screen and lines at the bottom are refreshed. This can cause uneven scrolling issues like the ones observed on the iPad.
We maintain that this effect is noticeable on the iPad mini in a way that it is not noticeable on other 60 Hz LCD iPads we've tested, like the iPad Air 4 and the latest $329 iPad. There's also a clear dividing line down the middle of the screen in portrait mode, as observed in our testing and in the video linked below—it's not a problem at the extreme edges of the display. The upshot is that the company doesn't believe there is a hardware or software issue to "fix," and that the screen apparently is the way it is.”
I tried this test as well…..nothing. I can see that everything gets a little blurry during movement, but one side does not appear to move faster than the other side. And it’s my understanding that the blurriness comes from the fact that it’s a 60 Hz screen rather than a 120 Hz screen.Yeah, but as I said, every display has some of it, even ultra fast gaming displays, it just how LCD/OLED works with todays technology. So we know there has to be some there, if it is enough for you to see it in real life or not is what we don't know. Different people will notice different levels of the effect, and watchinga video on it is not the same thing as seeing it live.
If you really want to find it, running the display scan skew test can help you in doing so (that's what I had to do). But it is good to know that if you do find it you will most likely be bothered by it.
Well, I guess this is something I can’t see, so I guess I should be grateful. 😆
This makes sense if it doesn't work out for you. In my case having clean scrolling in landscape is better and will likely incentivize me to replace my 5 for a 6.
I can understand people not liking Apple's decision to change the refresh orientation but it makes no sense to call it an inferior screen because Apple didn't resolve an inherent issue with all LCD screens.
It's not a 60Hz effect. It's extra blurriness on top of the 60Hz refresh rate. A bit like the screen being only 20Hz when scrolling though that's a made up number for illustration. The main point is the extra blurriness can cause eye strain and nausea in some people even if they don't actively perceive the wonky lines.
I guess now it makes perfect sense why Apple went with this as their marketing shots! Haha. Leaning tower of Mini. I guess the signs were all there….🤪
They are looking for clicks not pushing back because Apple's answer is correct. The story should be questioning why did Apple prioritize landscape over portrait.
I see zero difference with my Mini 5, side by side. Both have the exact same amount of “blurriness” as you scroll. I thought the jelly issue here was that one side of the screen is refreshing faster than the other side of the screen in portrait mode. Is there some other issue that people are now seeing?
Could you post a video? Just scrolling MacRumors at a medium rate shows the effect because of the horizontal lines between posts.
Apple's answer is correct, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a nonissue. It’s nice to see that AT is insisting that the effect has reached a new quality in the mini 6.
No prob….let me know if I should do it faster or slower. Like I said, I can clearly see the jelly effect in the videos that other people have posted, but I do not see them in my videos or live. Both sides appear equally “blurry” as I scroll.
Oops…. Forgot to do portrait. Hang on.
Apple engaging in Jedi mindtricks...Apple says this is normal behavior and has no plans to fix this:
Newest iPad mini has a subtle scrolling problem [Updated]
Apple says the issue is caused by normal LCD screen behavior.
One thing thing that puzzles me a little. Why exactly is everyone so bent out of shape about this?
It seems like it's a perfectionist thing. After all, you're not reading when you scroll. It's just a 'non-functional', distortion that everyone is up in arms about.
I hear: "I can't unsee it"; "Once you see it it's always present". So when people go test this phenomena, they actually may fear that once they see it's over: their new Mini will be ruined forever.
Eye of the beholder
It's a minor annoyance that may be just an excuse to either trash this device, or undo an impulse buy.
It seems like it's a perfectionist thing. After all, you're not reading when you scroll. It's just a 'non-functional', distortion that everyone is up in arms about.
I hear: "I can't unsee it"; "Once you see it it's always present". So when people go test this phenomena, they actually may fear that once they see it's over: their new Mini will be ruined forever.
Eye of the beholder
It's a minor annoyance that may be just an excuse to either trash this device, or undo an impulse buy.
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Interesting - I don't either, no matter how many times I watch it. I don't doubt that others do, though.