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Why on earth do you think I'm rewarding a bad decision or bad hardware? As far as I'm concerned there is nothing wrong with the LCD of the 6. Sure, I'd like OLED or Pro Motion, but I ordered it knowing it wasn't either of those. I'm very happy with my purchase decision!
It sounds like the jelly scrolling does not affect you in any way, so my post doesn't really apply to your situation. Congrats on your 6, it appears you are completely satisfied with it.
 
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Apple will never know or care who I am and won't care if one person chooses to not purchase their product. The point of my post is that they do pay attention to how well a product does on the market which, during the Tim Cook era, has shown to be very profit-driven. Complaints about their products are taken far less seriously when they are still selling a ton of them. Why would they "fix" something when they still get what they want from us, the consumer?

Withholding our money is the biggest power we have over large corporations. Accepting the jelly scrolling is a personal choice and within everyone's rights, but it does mean that Apple will be less compelled to change it. One person "boycotting" will not make a difference, it's a compounding effect throughout the market until the bottom line is negatively affected.
When I see these being sold as fast as they show up in Apple stores with deliveries 4 to 5 weeks out, there is really no amount of withholding your money that will make them notice presently. This is a product category that they will upgrade only if it gets lots of buyers. Apparently the demand is there to support that now. Some reviewers mentioned the Mini 6 doesn't have much competition.
 
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Apple will never know or care who I am and won't care if one person chooses to not purchase their product. The point of my post is that they do pay attention to how well a product does on the market which, during the Tim Cook era, has shown to be very profit-driven. Complaints about their products are taken far less seriously when they are still selling a ton of them. Why would they "fix" something when they still get what they want from us, the consumer?

Withholding our money is the biggest power we have over large corporations. Accepting the jelly scrolling is a personal choice and within everyone's rights, but it does mean that Apple will be less compelled to change it. One person "boycotting" will not make a difference, it's a compounding effect throughout the market until the bottom line is negatively affected.

If you don't like the product, don't buy it or return it if you did. The scrolling issue is virtually imperceptible to me so I'm not going to return it for what is a non-problem for me simply to make a point with Apple.
 
Withholding our money is the biggest power we have over large corporations. Accepting the jelly scrolling is a personal choice and within everyone's rights, but it does mean that Apple will be less compelled to change it. One person "boycotting" will not make a difference, it's a compounding effect throughout the market until the bottom line is negatively affected
Yes, I understand.
My point is that there is a big difference between deciding not to buy something because one doesn't like it, and deciding not to buy something because one thinks it will compel the manufacturer to change the product.
I think the latter is a poor basis for a personal purchasing decision. It would lead to the unwise decision to not buy something, even though it suits one's objectives and budget, but just in the hope that it will compel the manufacturer to improve it. This is definitely not how I make purchasing decisions.
 
Yes, I understand.
My point is that there is a big difference between deciding not to buy something because one doesn't like it, and deciding not to buy something because one thinks it will compel the manufacturer to change the product.
I think the latter is a poor basis for a personal purchasing decision. It would lead to the unwise decision to not buy something, even though it suits one's objectives and budget, but just in the hope that it will compel the manufacturer to improve it. This is definitely not how I make purchasing decisions.
Totally fair, I respect everything you’re saying here. The mindset I’m framing means that I don’t get to use the 6, an otherwise excellent device. A poor personal purchasing decision (which is, of course, subjective) is the actual cost of not giving any money to Apple. It also helps that the 5 is still a great device, as was pointed out in my original post.

So to follow up then, how do we compel Apple to change it?

I appreciate the discussion, good to talk about different views on this.
 
Jelly effect hurts eyes of most people but not everyone. If it doesn’t hurt you then buy mini 6 is totally fine
 
Totally fair, I respect everything you’re saying here. The mindset I’m framing means that I don’t get to use the 6, an otherwise excellent device. A poor personal purchasing decision (which is, of course, subjective) is the actual cost of not giving any money to Apple. It also helps that the 5 is still a great device, as was pointed out in my original post.

So to follow up then, how do we compel Apple to change it?

I appreciate the discussion, good to talk about different views on this.

The problem is that Apple only seems to respond to the most egregious issues that get widespread publicity, e.g. batterygate, the antenna problem, severe spyware flaws, etc. On "minor issues" (from their perspective, not ours) like blooming, white spots on 10.5 displays, jelly scrolling - they seem impervious to external pressure. I don't think they're unlike most major companies in this behavior.
 
So to follow up then, how do we compel Apple to change it?

I appreciate the discussion, good to talk about different views on this.
I don't think we can compel Apple to change something like this. Although I am sure Apple is aware of the feedback, and does market research to get the same, this is not a defect like antennagate and bendgate which rendered the device functionally unusable; it is just something that is unpleasant. Most reviewers are acknowledging the jelly scroll but essentially saying it is not a big deal; I bet the majority of feedback to Apple is going to be similar, with a small minority strongly objecting to it (as on any product). Antennagate and bendgate did result in a change a year later (revised antenna layout, and stronger aluminum), but I don't see this in the same category.

I suggest just give Apple feedback directly:


And buy, or not buy, the device based on whether the positives outweigh the negatives to you personally. Then enjoy it with no regrets.
 
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The problem is that Apple only seems to respond to the most egregious issues that get widespread publicity, e.g. batterygate, the antenna problem, severe spyware flaws, etc. On "minor issues" (from their perspective, not ours) like blooming, white spots on 10.5 displays, jelly scrolling - they seem impervious to external pressure. I don't think they're unlike most major companies in this behavior.
The apparent imperviousness to external pressure may be due to technological and manufacturing challenges that we just simply do not understand, not just due to stubbornness. There are also often patents or agreements involved that prevent Apple from just fixing issues like their competition. They are not going to reveal these challenges.
I have seen this on many other products. We do not understand why they don't just fix it - well, because we do not understand. And it is not in their interest to explain.
 
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The apparent imperviousness to external pressure may be due to technological and manufacturing challenges that we just simply do not understand, not just due to stubbornness. There are also often patents or agreements involved that prevent Apple from just fixing issues like their competition. They are not going to reveal these challenges.
I have seen this on many other products. We do not understand why they don't just fix it - well, because we do not understand. And it is not in their interest to explain.

Agree. No doubt that there is a cost-benefit analysis involved in these decisions.
 
I just purchased a 256gb Space Gray mini. The way I scroll on my iPad's, the jelly scroll is not an issue. I typically scroll very slowly as I read. Scrolling this way, I cannot see the effect. If I scroll very fast in portrait mode, then I can see the effect if I am specifically looking for it, so it is definitely there on my iPad.

I will be keeping the iPad, as slow scrolling doesn't seem to cause the effect as far as I can see. I do see how this might bother some, but wanted to share my findings in case it helps someone trying to make a decision on one of these devices.
 
Just return it then
Yeah I guess that will be the option if I can’t get used to it. Problem is the only other option for a small tablet I have is getting rid of my iPhone+Watch and going Fold 3. So I want to be sure I can’t get used to it before I do that.
 
Had a go with the Mini at the Apple Store, Anyone find it slightly heavier feeling than the 5 ? Also, lag on the home screen from 60hz was instantly noticeable and didn’t require a 120hz display to take stock of it.

But scrolling, videos, maps seemed fine to me.
 
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Yeah I guess that will be the option if I can’t get used to it. Problem is the only other option for a small tablet I have is getting rid of my iPhone+Watch and going Fold 3. So I want to be sure I can’t get used to it before I do that.

I have a Fold 3 as a secondary phone (I'm too invested in the Apple ecosystem to make it my number one) and the Fold is a good phone, actually fun to use once you flip it open. Only drawback - it is a bit heavy, llike carrying two phones.
 
Honestly I think Apple knows almost no good idea how to sell new iPhone in future anymore, so they have gave 13 all possible hardware upgrades like much bigger camera sensor and 120hz screen to keep the sales number for this year, nothing left for 14 then they can just start to cut cost like giving you a horrible grade display panel in Mini 6.
 
I have a Fold 3 as a secondary phone (I'm too invested in the Apple ecosystem to make it my number one) and the Fold is a good phone, actually fun to use once you flip it open. Only drawback - it is a bit heavy, llike carrying two phones.

Yeah I had the Fold 2 but didn’t run my iPad Pro 12.9” at that point. And I’m not a 2 phone person so it would replace mine, so a move like that would disrupt the ecosystem. But I did like the Fold really, guess it was only annoying during exercise and golf.
buy Mini 5
Had one, want something new and better. The 5 is lacking RAM severely at this point and the reloads are too much for one.
 
It’s so so bad. It actually makes me nauseous. The fact that it doesn’t happen in landscape OR other iPads tells me it’s a defect either with software or hardware.
 
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