iPad mini iPad Mini 6 jelly scrolling

[makingmark]

I’m keeping my mini 6 although I think the jelly scroll is shameful for an Apple product. As I’ve said before, it’s livable but it looks cheap because it is. I have no doubt Apple will eventually improve it.

As for claims the 6 is meant to be a primarily landscape device, I don’t buy it. If that’s the case, why is the front camera on the short side of the device (i.e.portrait orientation)? Yes I know about Center Stage. The 6 has redesigned hardware form so they didn’t have to keep front camera where it was to minimize costs. Unless, of course, it was cheaper and easier to have it there with the new design also. Which is what I suspect was the case with the hardware decisions that resulted in jelly scroll. Ship it, we’ll get it right later. Surely the right business decision but still a degradation of the previous display.

 

[babyexercise]

I’m keeping my mini 6 although I think the jelly scroll is shameful for an Apple product. As I’ve said before, it’s livable but it looks cheap because it is. I have no doubt Apple will eventually improve it.

As for claims the 6 is meant to be a primarily landscape device, I don’t buy it. If that’s the case, why is the front camera on the short side of the device (i.e.portrait orientation)? Yes I know about Center Stage. The 6 has redesigned hardware form so they didn’t have to keep front camera where it was to minimize costs. Unless, of course, it was cheaper and easier to have it there with the new design also. Which is what I suspect was the case with the hardware decisions that resulted in jelly scroll. Ship it, we’ll get it right later. Surely the right business decision but still a degradation of the previous display.

They even remove Touch Bar from new MacBook Pro, just add back few normal keys in keyboard. Cut cost and then increase the price a lot. Mini 6 with cheap vertical jelly panel for cut cost too for sure.

 

[Realityck]

I’m keeping my mini 6 although I think the jelly scroll is shameful for an Apple product. As I’ve said before, it’s livable but it looks cheap because it is. I have no doubt Apple will eventually improve it.

As for claims the 6 is meant to be a primarily landscape device, I don’t buy it. If that’s the case, why is the front camera on the short side of the device (i.e.portrait orientation)? Yes I know about Center Stage. The 6 has redesigned hardware form so they didn’t have to keep front camera where it was to minimize costs. Unless, of course, it was cheaper and easier to have it there with the new design also. Which is what I suspect was the case with the hardware decisions that resulted in jelly scroll. Ship it, we’ll get it right later. Surely the right business decision but still a degradation of the previous display.

Camera placement is for using FaceTime on both axises. Center stage tracking is very slow in use but you see it moving you more to the center as you watch your camera screen. I have no real issues with the 60 Hz screen, its way better watching videos then that mini 5 and it antiquated design with speakers around the lighting connector. I am use to looking at text all at once on a page, when you stop scrolling large swipes, not constantly moving it to read lines of text.
Still using it all the time when not at home and not in front of a computer.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I’m keeping my mini 6 although I think the jelly scroll is shameful for an Apple product. As I’ve said before, it’s livable but it looks cheap because it is. I have no doubt Apple will eventually improve it.

agreed.
I just hope they do actually “fix it”

 

[makingmark]

agreed.
I just hope they do actually “fix it”

To be clear, I meant they will fix it…on a mini 7! 🤣

 

[turbineseaplane]

To be clear, I meant they will fix it…on a mini 7! 🤣

Yeah - that's my feeling also.
Hopefully my Mini5 will still be enjoyable for another 2 years

 

[chillip]

I’ve cancelled my order. Played with one in the Apple store and it’s awful! My mini 5 doesn’t have that issue. Clearly a hardware issue.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I’ve cancelled my order. Played with one in the Apple store and it’s awful! My mini 5 doesn’t have that issue. Clearly a hardware issue.

I was just in the Apple store yesterday as I had occasion to visit the Tempur-Pedic store across the way in the mall.

Same impression again. I thought maybe I'd see if I felt any different with some time away. The jelly scroll sucks on the 6. To your point, my 5 exhibits none of this in any noticeable way (as it's in Landscape when it does it).

I really hope Apple can find a way to reverse the orientation.
I'd hate for the 5 to be my last Mini.

 

[allprologue]

Me, I just wish I could find the one I want in stock so I could have this same problem.

 

[chillip]

Me, I just wish I could find the one I want in stock so I could have this same problem.

I wouldn’t bother. It awful. Such a shame as the design is great!

 

[sparksd]

I wouldn’t bother. It awful. Such a shame as the design is great!

You think it's awful, others - me included - think it's great. allprologue needs to try it and find out for his or her self.

 

[DotCom2]

You think it's awful, others - me included - think it's great. allprologue needs to try it and find out for his or her self.

EXACTLY what I was going to say. People need to try it out for themselves. I for one, LOVE IT and have no issues at all!

 

[azentropy]

I decided to pass and not re-order after I cancelled previously due to the issue and it also not going to arrive in time for a trip I wanted to use it on. I saw it for myself a second time in person and it still bugs me. I returned all the accessories I had purchased ahead of time for it as well. Hopefully there will be an iPad mini 7 someday that will be 120Hz and/or not have the issue as prominent.

 

[chillip]

iPad OS 15.1 RC2 is just for mini 6. Can anyone confirm if this fixes the issue or it’s a hardware issue? Thanks

 

[Realityck]

iPad OS 15.1 RC2 is just for mini 6. Can anyone confirm if this fixes the issue or it’s a hardware issue? Thanks

RC2 is unrelated to that. No change.

 

[sparksd]

iPad OS 15.1 RC2 is just for mini 6. Can anyone confirm if this fixes the issue or it’s a hardware issue? Thanks

It's a hardware implementation issue - go back in this thread and look at the technical descriptions on it.

 

[*~Kim~*]

What does RC2 do? I wasn't planning to update until they fix the icons.

 

[Hoo Doo Dude]

I'm amazed how people can continue to ignore the fact that this is the nature of 60Hz LCD displays ... all of them. It exists in every single one from all companies. There is no "issue". The only change is Apple optimized things for landscape instead of portrait. This makes sense entirely with the upgraded speaker arrangement. There would be little merit to doing that without changing the refresh orientation to match. It isn't a defect or mistake in design. If you use the Mini 6 in landscape you'll unlikely notice. If you try hard enough in portrait you can see it. If just knowing it is there drives you to distraction then you're out of luck and should return it. I'd never have known it was happening had I not read these posts and even then I can't see it in normal use. Can I see it easily if I scroll wildly fast? Sure, just like you can with any other of the millions of 60Hz LCD displays in use. It is not an "issue". There won't be an update to "fix" this as there is nothing to fix.

 

[Rafterman]

I'm amazed how people can continue to ignore the fact that this is the nature of 60Hz LCD displays ... all of them. It exists in every single one from all companies. There is no "issue". The only change is Apple optimized things for landscape instead of portrait. This makes sense entirely with the upgraded speaker arrangement. There would be little merit to doing that without changing the refresh orientation to match. It isn't a defect or mistake in design. If you use the Mini 6 in landscape you'll unlikely notice. If you try hard enough in portrait you can see it. If just knowing it is there drives you to distraction then you're out of luck and should return it. I'd never have known it was happening had I not read these posts and even then I can't see it in normal use. Can I see it easily if I scroll wildly fast? Sure, just like you can with any other of the millions of 60Hz LCD displays in use. It is not an "issue". There won't be an update to "fix" this as there is nothing to fix.

The is MacRumors. Aka, OCD Central. Maybe some people are more sensitve to it. But in the end, we all have a choice to buy or not buy. I'm not sure why there is all this anger.

 

[MrGimper]

The is MacRumors. Aka, OCD Central. Maybe some people are more sensitve to it. But in the end, we all have a choice to buy or not buy. I'm not sure why there is all this anger.

In fact it's better than that.... we can all try and if unhappy, we can return it within 14 days.

 

[chillip]

I'm amazed how people can continue to ignore the fact that this is the nature of 60Hz LCD displays ... all of them. It exists in every single one from all companies. There is no "issue". The only change is Apple optimized things for landscape instead of portrait. This makes sense entirely with the upgraded speaker arrangement. There would be little merit to doing that without changing the refresh orientation to match. It isn't a defect or mistake in design. If you use the Mini 6 in landscape you'll unlikely notice. If you try hard enough in portrait you can see it. If just knowing it is there drives you to distraction then you're out of luck and should return it. I'd never have known it was happening had I not read these posts and even then I can't see it in normal use. Can I see it easily if I scroll wildly fast? Sure, just like you can with any other of the millions of 60Hz LCD displays in use. It is not an "issue". There won't be an update to "fix" this as there is nothing to fix.

Have to disagree. I have mini 5 and latest IPad Air and doesn’t have this issue in any orientation. It’s very obvious in the mini 6, enough to be an issue for me at least and many others. Apple have used a cheap panel.

 

[Hoo Doo Dude]

Have to disagree. I have mini 5 and latest IPad Air and doesn’t have this issue in any orientation. It’s very obvious in the mini 6, enough to be an issue for me at least and many others. Apple have used a cheap panel.

The 60 Hz refresh LCD panel causing this is a statement of fact. Look up how these work, your assertion is incorrect. It is an issue for you but not because of anything technically going on.

 

[chillip]

I understand the technical side. The case in point is that’s it’s very obvious on the mini 6. I don’t notice this issue on my other iPads.

 

[Hoo Doo Dude]

Any panel from any manufacture that is a 60Hz LCD and oriented similarly will exhibit the same degree of distortion in scrolling. The only reason you see a different is the screen orientation for the refresh. It is optimized for landscape on the Mini 6. You scroll others in portrait you won't see it. You scroll them in landscape you will.

 

[BurgDog]

Any panel from any manufacture that is a 60Hz LCD and oriented similarly will exhibit the same degree of distortion in scrolling. The only reason you see a different is the screen orientation for the refresh. It is optimized for landscape on the Mini 6. You scroll others in portrait you won't see it. You scroll them in landscape you will.

120Hz will make it unnoticeable to most people but some few will still notice it even with those. To really solve the issue for everyone need to go to 240hz panels. When people complain that Apple used cheap panels, they mean they didn't use the 120hz panel that they theoretically could have for that size. Will probably see that on the 7.