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120Hz will make it unnoticeable to most people but some few will still notice it even with those. To really solve the issue for everyone need to go to 240hz panels. When people complain that Apple used cheap panels, they mean they didn't use the 120hz panel that they theoretically could have for that size. Will probably see that on the 7.

No, they just need to just use the Mini 5 panel then it is ok for most people. Using a vertical jelly effect panel for Mini 6 is just for cut cost. Just like they make a small white cloth and charge for $19, they just want money.
 
No, they just need to just use the Mini 5 panel then it is ok for most people. Using a vertical jelly effect panel for Mini 6 is just for cut cost. Just like they make a small white cloth and charge for $19, they just want money.
The did not do it to cut cost. It was because of the new speaker layout for landscaping axis which is used with FaceTime, Games, Editing Video/Photography, Typing, Video playback from anything from Youtube to Netflix. A lot of things you do on the Mini 6 doesn't involve scrolling text endlessly. If you look at digital comics they look a lot better in portrait with the longer less wide aspect ratio. I use to have to scroll a little up and down to see the whole page on a mini 5, now its on one page with the mini 6 and it looks a bit bigger as the top and bottom that are no longer clipped.

On some HTML content I can reproduce this visual effect easily, on most others like this site with the pink bar it isn't there no matter how much you try to make it be seen. So for my usage its a non issue. I can choose not to be so fascinated by it that you ignore everything else that makes the mini 6 very useful.
 
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The did not do it to cut cost. It was because of the new speaker layout for landscaping axis which is used with FaceTime, Games, Editing Video/Photography, Typing, Video playback from anything from Youtube to Netflix. A lot of things you do on the Mini 6 doesn't involve scrolling text endlessly. If you look at digital comics they look a lot better in portrait with the longer less wide aspect ratio. I use to have to scroll a little up and down to see the whole page on a mini 5, now its on one page with the mini 6 and it looks a bit bigger as the top and bottom that are no longer clipped.

On some HTML content I can reproduce this visual effect easily, on most others like this site with the pink bar it isn't there no matter how much you try to make it be seen. So for my usage its a non issue. I can choose not to be so fascinated by it that you ignore everything else that makes the mini 6 very useful.

Seem like only you would think that way. Apple does a lot of testing for sure and they know vertical jelly effect would be much more annoying for most people, just they need higher profit now.
 
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Babyexercise's explanation seems more likely than yours.
You ever read this March 2021 article?


Apple is holding its iPad wrong. The company designs its tablets as if the best way to hold one is in a portrait orientation. But landscape is actually more common, and Apple should make changes to the iPad’s design to reflect that.

I did a quick poll of friends, family and co-workers who use tablets to see how they prefer holding their computer before writing this. It was landscape by a landslide. Portrait had some supporters, of course, but a wide majority of people said they mostly position their iPad so the display is wider rather than taller.

Switch the power and volume buttons​

With an iPad in landscape mode, the volume buttons sit along the top edge. Volume up is on the left while volume down is on the right. That’s not the least bit intuitive. They should move to the left edge, so up would be up and down would be down.

The power button can switch places with them. It belongs on the top in landscape orientation anyway.
Sounds just like what they did with the mini.

Then you have this Mac Rumors article, everyone thought it was ridiculous before the Mini 6 was announced.


Don't be fuming if more iPad Pros are designed to be used in Landscape first. After all iPadOS 15 allows you to run iPhones apps only in landscape and their campaign to use a iPad as a laptop usually shows it in landscape mode with that magic keyboard.
 
You ever read this March 2021 article?





Sounds just like what they did with the mini.

Then you have this Mac Rumors article, everyone thought it was ridiculous before the Mini 6 was announced.


Don't be fuming if more iPad Pros are designed to be used in Landscape first. After all iPadOS 15 allows you to run iPhones apps only in landscape and their campaign to use a iPad as a laptop usually shows it in landscape mode with that magic keyboard.

A lot of people use the iPad Mini with one hand, making that impossible with landscape. Unless you are 7 feet tall, with hands to match.
 
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I'm either lucky or just not able to see it, but I've had my mini now for a few days and do not see this at all. Or, if it's there, it's not showing up in how I use it.
It's one of those can't-be-unseen things, so enjoy! I see the jelly. It's lame, but I still enjoy using my iPad Mini 6 for all of its good aspects, and just ignore the jelly as much as I can.
 
A lot of people use the iPad Mini with one hand, making that impossible with landscape. Unless you are 7 feet tall, with hands to match.
"A lot of people" does not jibe with the actual data. A MAJORITY use the Mini in landscape, consequently it is optimized for landscape usage.
 
I'm either lucky or just not able to see it, but I've had my mini now for a few days and do not see this at all. Or, if it's there, it's not showing up in how I use it.
Same. I just don't see it and even if I did the pros outdo the cons in my use case.
 
"A lot of people" does not jibe with the actual data. A MAJORITY use the Mini in landscape, consequently it is optimized for landscape usage.

What "data"? "A quick poll of friends, family and co-workers who use tablets?" Well, my data point of one (me) says it's used mainly in portrait, so I guess everyone must do that.
 
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What "data"? "A quick poll of friends, family and co-workers who use tablets?" Well, my data point of one (me) says it's used mainly in portrait, so I guess everyone must do that.
I've searched, found and read several articles about this. You could do the same if you're interested in the facts.
 
What "data"? "A quick poll of friends, family and co-workers who use tablets?" Well, my data point of one (me) says it's used mainly in portrait, so I guess everyone must do that.

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a bit dated since it 2017 but even back then most Apple users went landscape. Also most rest a iPad on a surface or themselves to hold it landscape with only one hand.
 
Don't be fuming if more iPad Pros are designed to be used in Landscape first. After all iPadOS 15 allows you to run iPhones apps only in landscape and their campaign to use a iPad as a laptop usually shows it in landscape mode with that magic keyboard.
That article makes the case for landscape preference for the bigger iPads. The mini has a different use case and is more likely to be used both ways. Apple is just treating it as a scaled down Pro.
 
I've searched, found and read several articles about this. You could do the same if you're interested in the facts.

You are mistaken. I love facts. I just don't care enough about this to confirm that one way or the other.

Here's another fact. If you go to Best Buy or Amazon reviews, the Mini scores 4.8 or so out of 5. But if you come here to geek central, you'd swear it was the worst piece of garbage ever made.

Don't confuse "enthusiasts" with regular people.
 
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The problem is just based on human perception and how different people see the world. I have a 6 and don't see the problem at all. But my eyesight is not great and I keep things big on screen so I end up scrolling large text where the result is a slight blurring instead of obvious slanting text to me. A blurring I can't normally notice anyway because of my eyes. People who keep the text small and have wide perception range will see it where I can't.

Apple made the choice on the 6 to make landscape perfect and sacrifice portrait for those people who can see the problem. They should have kept portrait perfect as before and sacrifice landscape, as before, where the longer lines make it noticeable to fewer people. Still this was a deliberate choice on Apples part, I think they didn't realize until later they made the wrong tradeoff. Hopefully the mini7 will have promotion 120hz display where fewer people will see this. There will aways be some though. Ultimate fix for everyone will need 240hz displays and that isn't happened for a long time.
 
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The problem is just based on human perception and how different people see the world. I have a 6 and don't see the problem at all. But my eyesight is not great and I keep things big on screen so I end up scrolling large text where the result is a slight blurring instead of obvious slanting text to me. A blurring I can't normally notice anyway because of my eyes. People who keep the text small and have wide perception range will see it where I can't.

Apple made the choice on the 6 to make landscape perfect and sacrifice portrait for those people who can see the problem. They should have kept portrait perfect as before and sacrifice landscape, as before, where the longer lines make it noticeable to fewer people. Still this was a deliberate choice on Apples part, I think they didn't realize until later they made the wrong tradeoff. Hopefully the mini7 will have promotion 120hz display where fewer people will see this. There will aways be some though.

Based on Apple's previous M.O., you may not see a Mini 7 for two or three years.

Though I do hope that Apple, seeing how they really pimped up this new model, will start to give the Mini line some more love than it has in the past.
 
You ever read this March 2021 article?





Sounds just like what they did with the mini.

Then you have this Mac Rumors article, everyone thought it was ridiculous before the Mini 6 was announced.


Don't be fuming if more iPad Pros are designed to be used in Landscape first. After all iPadOS 15 allows you to run iPhones apps only in landscape and their campaign to use a iPad as a laptop usually shows it in landscape mode with that magic keyboard.

Apple would use this to explain if this is true, but Apple just said jelly effect in Mini 6 is normal. If vertical jelly effect is better then why not do that in the new Pro too?

Why all iPad models other than Mini 6 does not have vertical jelly effect because it is easy to tell it is annoying.
 
The problem is just based on human perception and how different people see the world. I have a 6 and don't see the problem at all. But my eyesight is not great and I keep things big on screen so I end up scrolling large text where the result is a slight blurring instead of obvious slanting text to me. A blurring I can't normally notice anyway because of my eyes. People who keep the text small and have wide perception range will see it where I can't.

Apple made the choice on the 6 to make landscape perfect and sacrifice portrait for those people who can see the problem. They should have kept portrait perfect as before and sacrifice landscape, as before, where the longer lines make it noticeable to fewer people. Still this was a deliberate choice on Apples part, I think they didn't realize until later they made the wrong tradeoff. Hopefully the mini7 will have promotion 120hz display where fewer people will see this. There will aways be some though. Ultimate fix for everyone will need 240hz displays and that isn't happened for a long time.

They knew it for sure since most of the average human can easily feel it, it is just about $$$. If they can earn $10 more by doing it then they would when they only want money now.

Another recent example is No Touch Bar in new Mac Pro, just black keys with much higher price.
 
They knew it for sure since most of the average human can easily feel it, it is just about $$$. If they can earn $10 more by doing it then they would when they only want money now.

Another recent example is No Touch Bar in new Mac Pro, just black keys with much higher price.

Hey Apple, a 1970s Wyse data terminal keyboard called, they want their keyboard back.
 
They knew it for sure since most of the average human can easily feel it, it is just about $$$. If they can earn $10 more by doing it then they would when they only want money now.

Another recent example is No Touch Bar in new Mac Pro, just black keys with much higher price.

Not so sure on "most of the average human can easily feel it". I've tried blind tests with several people with my Mini 6 (including engineer friends), not telling them about the issue but asking them what they saw wrong in the display when using it in portrait mode. Only one person noted the issue, "Looks a little jagged on scrolling but not sure." I never would have noticed it were it not for reading about it here.
 
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Sooooo....are there any owners who swapped out a unit showing "jelly" scroll to then receive a unit that doesn't have it?
 
They knew it for sure since most of the average human can easily feel it, it is just about $$$. If they can earn $10 more by doing it then they would when they only want money now.

Another recent example is No Touch Bar in new Mac Pro, just black keys with much higher price.
They knew for sure that most average humans won't notice it or will think it is a very minor issue and sales and reviews have born this out. The number of people who do notice it and find it intolerable is likely larger than they expected though and Apple would have had more happy customers if they hadn't made the change to make landscape look better over portrait

Change of display preference is a zero cost change, they definitely lost sales because of it, so it was a bad marketing choice. The real fix is a promotion display that would cost them a lot more than $10. Too bad they didn't do that, everyone would have been thrilled if they did so at the price they are charging. I'd have paid $100 more for just that.
 
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You are mistaken. I love facts. I just don't care enough about this to confirm that one way or the other.

Here's another fact. If you go to Best Buy or Amazon reviews, the Mini scores 4.8 or so out of 5. But if you come here to geek central, you'd swear it was the worst piece of garbage ever made.

Don't confuse "enthusiasts" with regular people.
All I've focused on are the facts regarding 60Hz LCD displays. That's all this is about. The pixel peepers are the ones making a tempest in a teapot.
 
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