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hammie14

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Moyapilot

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If it irritates you now, then you made a good decision to return it. Its hard to unsee a thing like this, especially if its visible when you aren't going out of your way to look for it.

I'm kind of confused that with 2500 zones, that the lit up area is so big. Seems like it should be smaller.
 

Macalway

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I'm not sure what I'm looking for in those photos. There's those blue areas that look weird. What's that?

But the blooming is just fuzz around bright stuff, right? (which I don't see really)
 

rgarjr

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I'm not sure what I'm looking for in those photos. There's those blue areas that look weird. What's that?

But the blooming is just fuzz around bright stuff, right? (which I don't see really)
The blue areas are the leds lid up underneath the display. What’s weird is how far out it spreads out from the actual dot (target).
 

hopsenberry

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If the screen has as many zones as they claim there is no reason for the blooming to be that big. So maybe it is a software issue after all and it is something they can adjust.
 

Macalway

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Oh please LOL. If that's it, it's very bad. These look defective? But these are photos, so...

I have no clue what's going on. As far as unseeing, how do you unsee something like that? Wtf.

Worst case, they jumped the gun with the 'mini' when they clearly should have waited for micro (from the looks of that :D ). So they refused to use OLED as burn-in makes them all defective because of icons, etc, and they needed to do something.
 
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honestly its the reason I returned my past vizio tvs had similar tech and similar annoying blooming, went oled. one day I hope oled gets better
 

hopsenberry

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Oh please LOL. If that's it, it's very bad. These look defective? But these are photos, so...

I have no clue what's going on. As far as unseeing, how do you unsee something like that? Wtf.

Worst case, they jumped the gun with the 'mini' when they clearly should have waited for micro (from the looks of that :D ). So they refused to use OLED as burn-in makes them all defective because of icons, etc, and they needed to do something.
It looks exactly like that in real life. But you need to be in a pitch black room. If you are in normal lighting then you won't see it.
 

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When i first got my new iPads last week really didn‘t see the issue with everyone saying blooming is a nightmare I’m returning etc etc. If you check my posts i even commented saying that I didn’t have a problem like others where describing, until 2 days ago.

I had a problem on my iPad, messages where not syncing in iCloud and my music library screwed up, tried for a little while to fix it, switching sync on and off, deleting music and reinstalling to the point i couldn’t get it to sync correctly, so i thought screw this, let me restore iPadOS and start a fresh.

Entered DFU mode and restored via finder on my Mac, finder downloaded 14.6 and it installed no problem set everything up as a new iPad and noticed the blooming is now 10 times worse, I know the images really blow it out of proportion and its looks much worse in a picture but the blooming effect on my iPad is now at the point i’m going to return my iPad, which I said I was not going to do, hopefully this will be fixed in the upcoming iPadOS updates.

Not sure why it would be any different restoring via DFU mode but something has happened, and i checked all setting. I don’t want this to be another bashing of the new iPad because before this the screen was really good not sure what happened. If i had longer I would Try and install iOS 14.7 to see if this fixes it but I’m going to be busy and probably wont get the time, if i do ill post the results.
Blooming is not a software issue. Its an element of Mini-LED.
 

Macalway

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It looks exactly like that in real life. But you need to be in a pitch black room. If you are in normal lighting then you won't see it.
I can see that. An optical thing. That may be ok, if you avoid scenarios that would be unlikely anyway, which is reasonable, I guess. I'll need to test mine

I have one, but haven't gotten around to it. I'm not going to push it though. I'm not going to look for trouble :D
 

hopsenberry

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Blooming is not a software issue. Its an element of Mini-LED.
The point is that with 2596 dimming zones on a 12inch screen there is no reason the blooms should be so big.

There is definitely a problem with the display whether its software or hardware. It does not live up to its specs.
 
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Marshall73

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It looks exactly like that in real life. But you need to be in a pitch black room. If you are in normal lighting then you won't see it.
looks like that if you use a phone camera but unless you have the eyes of an owl your not seeing that like that pic.
 
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macduke

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Yeah, mine doesn't do any crap like this. If I turn it up to full brightness in a dark room I can see it sometimes, but it's not this bad, and I tried something interesting. I masked off the area where the bright parts are, and I see less bloom. It's so bright it's like it makes bloom in your eyes and in cameras, kinda like a lens flare. It's so bright it's lighting up the air between your iPad and eyes as it spreads out and you can see that, kinda like the beam of a flashlight in a dark place. But having seen some of these posts on here, I think there is definitely something up. I do professional design work and photography. I understand how light works and I have an irritatingly high bar for displays and details like this and it just doesn't bother me. Makes me think there are defective units and/or software issues that are lighting up too many surrounding zones or something. Perhaps the algorithm is off and it only presents itself in certain situations? Apple does so much tweaking and tinkering with their displays to make them look amazing that I wouldn't be surprised if that complexity introduces more bugs sometimes.
 

Isengardtom

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Do you have the new ipad? I do and I noticed the blooming right away. And yes it looks exactly like that.
Same here. the photo makes it a bit worse than it really is but that’s what I see too. Only under dark conditions though.

it‘s as if it’s using the 70 dimming zones instead of 2596
 

hammie14

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It looks exactly like that in real life. But you need to be in a pitch black room. If you are in normal lighting then you won't see it.

Thats one of the problems since i did the restore you can see it too in normal lighting conditions, its hard to see but its now noticeable, which is was not before the restore.

looks like that if you use a phone camera but unless you have the eyes of an owl your not seeing that like that pic.

Again you are right I didn’t notice it before the restore in my original post, it’s MUCH worse and you can see it with your own eyes since the restore. Before it no so many zones where switched on.
 

hammie14

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Blooming is not a software issue. Its an element of Mini-LED.

Yes i understand, but the display and LEDs are driven by software, and what I’m saying is if you look at the image i posted there are several dimming zones at and lit up that don’t need to be. This was not like this prior to me doing a software restore. Before the zones around the pointer where switched off more, this is why I’m saying it maybe software released. I probably didn’t word that correctly, I think software can be tweaked to make the blooming less noticeable. In this case something as cleared changed, as before it had more then half them dimming zones switched off!
 
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I masked off the area where the bright parts are, and I see less bloom. It's so bright it's like it makes bloom in your eyes and in cameras, kinda like a lens flare.
Anyone wanting to show the effect should be doing this. Take the bright spot out of the equation altogether and focus on the pixels that should be black :)
 
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lorsl

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You can do alot with the right local dimming algorithm. The blooming area is just waaaay to big for 2600 zones. It makes zero sense.
 
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