While it's not a huge deal, it's very clearly an odd decision on Apple's part. As many have said, one of the big new features of the iPad Pro is to be able to write and draw using the new Pencil. The protruding camera might not drastically affect your ability to do that, but it certainly does not help it. And for what? So that we can have a 12 megapixel camera on an iPad, as opposed to 8? iPads have usually lagged behind iPhones in camera quality because the iPad is not a traditional picture taking device. It just seems backwards to create an uneven surface, for really no good reason, on a product where one of its new flagship features would benefit from a flat surface. Doesn't affect me since I won't be using the iPad on flat surfaces, but an odd decision nonetheless. I love Apple as much as anyone, but it doesn't mean I'm going to blindly support every design decision they make, especially one such as this that is inherently silly.
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iPad pro. Protruding camera!
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? Not sure I follow. 1MP? The 12.9 Pro and Air 2 have 8MP cameras and are flush, they could have easily went with that and no one would have blinked an eye.
For me, and apparently most, when it comes to the iPad, I want the camera as good as they can get it SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT PROTRUDE.
Apparently most? Hasn't Apple sold some 300 Million iPads? Where'd you get your data? Or is that opinion yours and a relative "handful" of people compaining here? This thread has a whopping 54 replies you know (before this one).
I have an iPhone 6 with a protruding camera. I hate it and think it's stupid, but I still bought the phone. I had a Galaxy S4 that had a protruding camera. I don't like it, but I deal with it. Sorry, that I haven't conducted a study on it for you. But yes, I do believe if you gave people the design choose, protrude or flush, they wouldn't want it to protrude. It's a pretty sensible thought.
I'm not saying they are wrong at all. I'm saying it's not smart to carry expensive devices around without protection. If you've never damaged any of your devices, or even scratched them, then you are very lucky. I take immaculate care of my devices and I've gotten scratches on the back of an iPhone and iPad from simply setting them on a table when they weren't protected. Cases ever since.
I have an iPhone 6 and a 6 plus. Both have the thin Apple leather case on them. Protruding camera issue is solved because it protrudes less than the thickness of the case. I appreciate the better pictures more myself.
We don't agree on this but I'm not claiming that "most people" take my side because I don't have any data that could possibly back it up.
If you want to give your opinion you are completely free to do so but realize you are speaking for yourself.
Sorry but a poll on a biased forum like MR does not make a Quorom where you can claim to have "most" people agreeing with you.
I think you missed the point. You are expressing your opinion and yours only. Others have different opinions. You don't need to make broad claims that your opinion is that of the majority. If you think a tiny poll in a forum like this justifies your claims? Well sorry but that's just not the reality.
I disagree, first, 8MP is hardly low res. Especially for a a camera/tablet camera. If it was a DSLR or dedicated digital camera then yes. The iPhone 6 has an 8MP camera, I don't think people were complaining its low res, in fact apple did a whole photo campaign with the 6. Secondly, I don't think the vast majority (like 99%) buy a 9.7" tablet just for the camera feature. No I don't have data to back it up (and neither do you in terms of data to the contrary so let's just let that specific argument die for now), but it seems like a reasonable assumption.
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Again, I just think it's bad design and a disturbing indication of the trend at Apple. You shouldn't need to another accessory to make a device work optimally for one of its primary intended uses - drawing and writing. Whether you want to put on a case or not, that up to the individual as you say, but you shouldn't be forced to for it to work optimally.
I won't bother respnding to the first one as we just disagree. Nothing more to say.
I don't need a case for my iPhones but I prefer to have one. One, to protect it from the unavoidable drop that is bound to happen. Two I find myself placing the phone on surfaces where it can be prone to sliding and the nice aluminum does slide on a lot of surfaces really well. The Apple cases do just enough to alleviate both issues for me. My IPP 12.9 got a big scratch on the back very early and I don't even know how but I put a back cover on it very shortly after I noticed it.
Even these are personal preferences so not really subject for debate.
I think Apple's marketing images make it look bigger than reality. I thought the iPhone bulge would be huge, but in reality it's only like 1mm and barely noticeable. I think it will be the same with the iPad and surely won't cause wobble issues.
Apple is fully of brilliant engineers. Do you honestly believe that in all their testing and prototypes not one of them attempted to draw on a "Pro" tablet featuring and advertising drawing with the Apple Pencil on a table laying flat?
Apple is fully of brilliant engineers. Do you honestly believe that in all their testing and prototypes not one of them attempted to draw on a "Pro" tablet featuring and advertising drawing with the Apple Pencil on a table laying flat?
When you draw or use on a flat surface, where does all the pressure go to? You pretty mcu h have to buy a case if you want to use it on a flat surface in a 'pro' way
So you're just going to ignore the videos that prove otherwise?
Just because some guy posts a video saying he doesnt notice? Who cares. It's common sense, if you have an ipad with a flush camera and another with a camera that sticks out and you press down on both, one will get wear over time and one will not. If it drops the camera will take the hit first as well.
For my uses i would have an ipad with just the smart cover, so this camera hump is a no go for me since i dont want to spend money on a a case just for being able to lay my device soundly on a flat surface
So first it's about wobble, then it's about wear and tear and now it's about dropping it? Slippery slope, much?
Maybe try it for yourself before condemning a great product because of some non-existent problems.
I never said it was about wobble, which probably does exist by the way, you're reading other people and attaching it to me. A protruding camera is unsightly, impractical and becomes the first point of wear and tear on the back of the ipad.
But apple doesnt care because people like you love it no matter what and buy 256gb versions of this stuff 2 gigs of ram and all.
Your timing couldn't have been worse. I literally just said this:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/no-ipad-air-3.1962682/#post-22707146
and I've said it before too
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-pencil-support.1958309/page-11#post-22611509
I have no issues with my 6S with protruding camera. It does wobble but only slightly. Since iPad is much bigger the wobble will be much less, likely undetectable as the device flexes slightly anyway. As for damage, my 6S camera is flawless but my screen is scratched to buggery. Point is it's tough, and no lol it's not going to be the first thing that makes contact with the floor when you drop it
frankly i don't care about your quote mining. An iphone and iPad are different devices. I like a case on my phone since it will go outside on my person more, whereas an ipad will stay at home more on a flat surface like a table.Your timing couldn't have been worse. I literally just said this:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/no-ipad-air-3.1962682/#post-22707146
and I've said it before too
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-pencil-support.1958309/page-11#post-22611509
I have no issues with my 6S with protruding camera. It does wobble but only slightly. Since iPad is much bigger the wobble will be much less, likely undetectable as the device flexes slightly anyway. As for damage, my 6S camera is flawless but my screen is scratched to buggery. Point is it's tough, and no lol it's not going to be the first thing that makes contact with the floor when you drop it
Again take your iphone out of your case and wobble it and pull it on its back along on a hard surface and tell me how confident you feel. If it was flat it would be smooth. Polls show majority are on my side. But if you want to be an apologist go right ahead.
You don't care or you don't care to be proven wrong?
I am not apologising on behalf of Apple here, I have presented two videos that demonstrate that the iPad doesn't wobble but it seems you already know how the device will act despite not even seeing or touching one.
Based on the evidence rather than opinion I would suggest that it in fact doesn't wobble, but you know best, right? I mean you're the one that said if it's dropped the 1mm camera protrusion will make contact first lol
You didn't address any my points and just keep repeating yours, good jobYou don't care or you don't care to be proven wrong?
I am not apologising on behalf of Apple here, I have presented two videos that demonstrate that the iPad doesn't wobble but it seems you already know how the device will act despite not even seeing or touching one.
Based on the evidence rather than opinion I would suggest that it in fact doesn't wobble, but you know best, right? I mean you're the one that said if it's dropped the 1mm camera protrusion will make contact first lol