Assuming there is anything to fix
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dude, there is. Its too fragile.Assuming there is anything to fix
Anyway, good luck and may you find the device you need!
Not for proper usage it isn’t.
Look, we could go on and on. Let’s just accept the fact we look at this differently and leave it at that.
“Oh it’s bent? Was it in a backpack?”
Love that this is implied that this is something you shouldn’t do
What baloney from that Apple store dude! "This this is the first time i ever heard of one bending!"
I think the iPad Pro design is a fail on Apple's part. The device shouldn't have that issue. With a phone it's different because it's smaller, it gets tossed around more and you're always liable to bend it in your pocket, front or back. This is a tablet and it should have enough structural integrity not to bend, unless you really abuse it and pay no mind to the conditions you're using it in. But this, putting it in a backpack... come on.
There's also an mkbhd video on the iPad Pro and there's a shot where you could see his iPad is bent (it looked that way to me, at least). There's also the JerryRigEverything bend test where the iPad Pro snaps too easily. Granted, that bend test isn't normal usage, but it does speak to the structural integrity of the device, like it or not.
Some say the bend only happens on LTE models and the bend starts at the antenna band. If true, it's ridiculous as it means you are more likely to get a bend on your device if you buy the more expensive model.
How many reports on other iPad models bending? None, I guess. But we do have reports on this one bending, and then some. Regardless of how many people are affected, this device is too expensive to take the risk. If this is something that can happen, and it most certainly can because it's happening to other people, then I can't have peace of mind using the device. I can't pay this much and constantly hope it doesn't bend, it destroys the experience for me because I couldn't use it worry-free.
There's also an mkbhd video on the iPad Pro and there's a shot where you could see his iPad is bent (it looked that way to me, at least). There's also the JerryRigEverything bend test where the iPad Pro snaps too easily. Granted, that bend test isn't normal usage, but it does speak to the structural integrity of the device, like it or not.
Some say the bend only happens on LTE models and the bend starts at the antenna band. If true, it's ridiculous as it means you are more likely to get a bend on your device if you buy the more expensive model.
How many reports on other iPad models bending? None, I guess. But we do have reports on this one bending, and then some. Regardless of how many people are affected, this device is too expensive to take the risk. If this is something that can happen, and it most certainly can because it's happening to other people, then I can't have peace of mind using the device. I can't pay this much and constantly hope it doesn't bend, it destroys the experience for me because I couldn't use it worry-free.
I’m not saying people aren’t having issues with their iPads, but this guy lost all credibility IMO with his opening statement.
“Ok, so, I woke up 2 days ago and I looked down at my iPad, and lo and behold it was bent.”
Look at the bend in that thing......there’s no way it just spontaneously bent overnight......and I find it unlikely he wouldn’t have noticed it the last time he used it.
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He's not saying it bent by itself over night. He's saying he noticed it was bent when he woke up.
The bent is definitely there. Bought a 11” and 12.9” (both LTE) and sent the 11” back, because it was bent from the beginning out of the box.
Forgot to make a picture of it. But you can see that the weak spot is definitively the LTE antenna area.
Forgot to make a picture of it. But you can see that the weak spot is definitively the LTE antenna area.
And as I said...there’s no way you wouldn’t notice a bend like that when you last used it.
Full disclosure......my Wi-Fi only 12.9” had a very slight bend out of the box which hasn’t gotten any worse over time.
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Did he know he was being recorded?
What is proper usage?
I'm not trying to be coy,cute, or smart, but rather refute the idea that the people who have bent iPads were using it wrong. I don't think we ought to be blaming the victim, but rather the design.
Proper usage in my book is that, I would use this new iPad the same exact way that I used my prior iPad which did not produce any problems or bends.
One of the reasons I chose to return the 2018 MBP was for the fact that I had to treat the laptop like an 8th century Ming vase out of fear that the keyboard would fail. Do I really want to go back to that mind sent for the IPP? Can I put this in my bag, and travel/commute? It seems based on the videos and posts, that very act could cause the iPad to bend, especially if you use a backpack
I heard somewhere here or another forum, that apple store employees are ordered not to say anything about bending and in fact play dumb.
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How do you figure there’s “no way he wouldn’t notice it”? It’s almost like you’re assuming these things are built so tough it takes an incredible amount of pressure to bend. You hear people here every single day talk about how they also “just noticed a bend”. Wanna tell them the same thing? “Oh come on you had to have known it was bent when you bent it!”
Yeah. Not really.
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Well boy oh boy are they playing that role well
It’s not at all like I’m “...assuming these things are built so tough it takes an incredible amount of pressure to bend.”How do you figure there’s “no way he wouldn’t notice it”? It’s almost like you’re assuming these things are built so tough it takes an incredible amount of pressure to bend. You hear people here every single day talk about how they also “just noticed a bend”. Wanna tell them the same thing? “Oh come on you had to have known it was bent when you bent it!”
Yeah. Not really.
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Well boy oh boy are they playing that role well
Saying “there’s no way you wouldn’t notice a bend like that...” is completely different from saying that it can’t be bent. That’s a significant bend!
Anything within reason: holding it, taping on it, drawing while it’s in your lap, reading in a park, handing it around to your colleagues during a presentation, using it on a desk, putting it in a shoulder bag or a backpack, taking it on a picnic or a bike ride, taking it on a plane, that sort of thing. I treat my new iPad like every iPad before. It’s not going to bend on its own.
But do I put a 5.9mm thin device into a crammed backpack and then place it into a plane’s overhead compartment, where other people will put their bags on top of mine (like one of the members here mentioned)? No. Even if older iPads withstood that torture, I don’t consider this proper usage for a small device like this.
I never jammed my iPads or MacBooks into crammed backpacks that get kicked or pushed around. They are precisely made, premium, thin and light devices. No, you don’t need to baby them. I don’t take special care when placing my iPad into a bag or a backpack. I don’t treat it with rubber gloves. I just apply common sense.
I think humans are good at estimating the fragility of their property. I don’t put my glasses in my back pocket and sit on them. And I’ve could’ve gotten a thicker frame, but I wanted one that had a minimal frame (it’s just a thin thing above the lenses) because I wanted very light glasses. But I don’t complain that I can’t just throw them anywhere and have to treat them with care.
Compared to the previous generation, this one is - of course - a bit more fragile. A thinner, lighter device is going to be more delicate. As I said, iPad 2 was quite a bit more fragile than iPad 1. But it was also smaller and lighter. Latest iPhones are way more delicate than the first ones, just as glass screens are more shatter prone than plastic ones. As devices become lighter and smaller, they become less durable - but do we really want to carry Nokia 3310s in this day and age? As long as device functions normally, it’s fine.
Also, there are devices that are less delicate - like, once I carried a Lenovo gaming laptop, it was made out of plastic and it was around 2cm thick. I even think the screen was plastic - that thing you could probably sit on. It was also heavy and unwieldy. It’s good that these devices exist to fit into specific lifestyles. There are benefits and downsides to different approaches.
Now, if my iPad Pro bent while I was drawing.... if it bent while I was typing on the screen while holding it in my lap.... if it bent while carrying it in my shoulder bag.... if it bent while charging - that would be a totally different story. For example, people getting their iPads bent out of the box is unacceptable - but I believe that is a different issue, related to production.
My point is that the current model should be able to accomodate the same level of handling and usage as the prior model and clearly it cannot. @Freida stated its too fragile, and you refuted his post stating not for proper usage. The current iPad is fragile, there's no if ands or buts about it. I'm on the outside looking in, to be sure, but clearly if people are complaining about doing things they've long did before but now its damaging the iPad, that means the iPad is more fragile.
Some people are complaining (and, tbh, most of them don’t actually have these iPads, let’s not kid ourselves). Some are claiming they have no issues. I don’t know, that is all anecdotal. Perhaps they’ve been mistreating their iPads. Perhaps it was bad luck. @Freida said it’s too fragile. I say it’s not. We’re just users and you don’t know us. Perhaps Freida is too rough on their devices but was just lucky before. Perhaps I’m too gentle. This doesn’t mean anything. People should decide for themselves, but let’s not act like it’s been proven that these iPads have a design flaw. They are more delicate than old ones, for sure, but with good reason (lighter, smaller volume, Pencil charging opening). They work as I expect them to. They don’t work as Freida expects them to. Perhaps it’s bad design, perhaps the expectations are wrong. Fragile is a relative term.
This is such a silly thread, I mean let's be honest... who here thought a aluminum device at 5.9mm the size of a sheet of paper WOULDN'T bend? Does anyone know how physics work? As for people complaining about past iPads being much stronger... no, I have 2 iPads (one from 2017 and one from 2014, and both are the thinner 6.1mm, and they are bent) and I can just as easily bend them more as I can the current iPads. ***Again, let's be honest here, this is a stupid thread, I am going to state that I believe most people complaining are either not actual owners, Apple haters, or are upset because the prices are much higher for these and so any imperfections are too hard to accept.
Physics people, even if they went back to make these iPads thicker (6.1mm-7.5+) they would bend. Get over it and start remembering basic physics from your science studies or classes.
(Both 9.7" and 10.5" Pro bend like butter)
(iPad Air 2 bends like play-dough)
(This just talks about how ridiculous all this bending is.)
(Another #BendGate is stupid video)
Physics people, even if they went back to make these iPads thicker (6.1mm-7.5+) they would bend. Get over it and start remembering basic physics from your science studies or classes.
(Both 9.7" and 10.5" Pro bend like butter)
(iPad Air 2 bends like play-dough)
(This just talks about how ridiculous all this bending is.)
(Another #BendGate is stupid video)
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I noticed a bend in my iPad Air 3 today. I couldn’t work out how if bent it since I’d never sat on it or did anything that could cause a bend. What’s interesting is my iPad Air 2 had the exact same bend in the exact same place.
Tonight I was lying in bed holding my iPad one handed in the bottom left corner. I was lying down with it holding it above me (yes I know that’s a weird way to hold it but I only do it for short periods of time). I realised this was where the bend is and that the weight of the right side of the iPad was kind of pulling it down almost. I am certain this is causing the bends. I’m going to try and hold it when sat up in the same place (bottom left) so that the gravity is pushing down on the opposite side. Il try this for week and see what happens. I hope I’ve explained it properly but without pictures it’s hard to say.
For anyone that’s had a bent iPad and couldn’t think of why, have a think about how you hold your iPad. Do you hold it one handed on one of the corners? Is the weight and gravity pulling it down and bending it? I’d be interested with what people say.
Tonight I was lying in bed holding my iPad one handed in the bottom left corner. I was lying down with it holding it above me (yes I know that’s a weird way to hold it but I only do it for short periods of time). I realised this was where the bend is and that the weight of the right side of the iPad was kind of pulling it down almost. I am certain this is causing the bends. I’m going to try and hold it when sat up in the same place (bottom left) so that the gravity is pushing down on the opposite side. Il try this for week and see what happens. I hope I’ve explained it properly but without pictures it’s hard to say.
For anyone that’s had a bent iPad and couldn’t think of why, have a think about how you hold your iPad. Do you hold it one handed on one of the corners? Is the weight and gravity pulling it down and bending it? I’d be interested with what people say.
This video only speaks to those units with minor bends out of the box. I notice he makes no attempt to justify those that are easily bending through normal use and storage (normal to the owner's previous experience with earlier models). And yes, these purposefully bending videos are ridiculous. But the real elephant in the room will always be the overall fragility of the unit due to its lack of structural support and thinness.
Other folks may be willing to put their money on the table and take the chance -- or baby the unit more than previous models. Me, I continue to expect a unit that can be used in a heavy business environment, where we don't spend an inordinate amount of time ensuring the unit's safety and care, and can stand up to the rigors of a super user. This is what we had with previous models overall, and this is what other competitors like the Surface Pro may offer as an alternative.
For the usage most folks need these for, there are alternatives. OS doesn't matter as much as the support of the apps they require. Some will prefer to use iOS, but it's an easy trade-off if the hardware is perceived as unreliable. I haven't made that decision yet. My current model iPad Pro will hold me over for a bit longer. But Apple has opened the door to a wandering eye, something no business should do accidentally or on purpose.
This needs to be addressed. If they want to keep a thin, more fragile model, fine. Just know that super users will consider more robust options. It's too much money to ponder otherwise. If Apple views these units as disposable commodities (fragility and cheap construction being the target) then they should be priced as such. Yes, the iPad Pro has been selling fine as far as I've heard, but it would sell even better if those of us who consider durability as a prime requirement were onboard. Worse, it sours the Apple brand to those people, and with other current quality issues, it makes one think more closely about their investments in future hardware.
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No where in those videos did they say or did I see those iPads were pre-bent. I have a tin-foil hat if you need it.
jk, but really what do you want Apple to do? Use Titanium or Magnesium? Both will still bend.Good luck with that, also working at Best Buy Geeksquad, I had more Samsung and Windows tablets come in with bends, bad screens, software issues, or defects than iPads. I saw one or two iPads ever that just didn't work or had a body defect... but no crazy bent iPads (like everyone saying here) that I ever saw of the 2+ years working there. The Samsung tablets on display are bent FYI. I can grab a photo and post it here next week if everyone wants. Truth is, I'll take an iPad that needs basic consideration of care while owning but works and does all I paid for... vs a windows tablet/laptop that calls for software errors, updates, and reformatting 3x a month... plus all the fun malware, virus, and spyware that come with it. If you think Windows are an alternative... good for you, no one here is stopping you from grabbing one. Again, I'll take a working product that can potentially get broken if used carelessly than a product that sucks out of the gate and can also get broken without proper consideration.
Can we please use a little more logic in these threads everyone? Science is real and no matter what manufacturer makes what tablet... it can/will bend too. Again I see no point to this thread, I have owned 9 of the 2018 iPad Pros (returned them due to the touch error that occurred before iOS 11.3.) NONE had a single bend, I checked each one and none were defective that way.
Do I like Apple... yes and no, I love the iPad and iPhone, but I dislike the MacBooks, crazy cult stuff that occurs here and there, and the high prices... but I'll take a device that may bend but works flawlessly vs anything else (cause anything else actually sucks to use from my experience.) All this is my opinion, take it or throw it.
No where in those videos did they say or did I see those iPads were pre-bent. I have a tin-foil hat if you need it.
Good luck with that, also working at Best Buy Geeksquad, I had more Samsung and Windows tablets come in with bends, bad screens, software issues, or defects than iPads. I saw one or two iPads ever that just didn't work or had a body defect... but no crazy bent iPads (like everyone saying here) that I ever saw of the 2+ years working there. The Samsung tablets on display are bent FYI. I can grab a photo and post it here next week if everyone wants. Truth is, I'll take an iPad that needs basic consideration of care while owning but works and does all I paid for... vs a windows tablet/laptop that calls for software errors, updates, and reformatting 3x a month... plus all the fun malware, virus, and spyware that come with it. If you think Windows are an alternative... good for you, no one here is stopping you from grabbing one. Again, I'll take a working product that can potentially get broken if used carelessly than a product that sucks out of the gate and can also get broken without proper consideration.
Can we please use a little more logic in these threads everyone? Science is real and no matter what manufacturer makes what tablet... it can/will bend too. Again I see no point to this thread, I have owned 9 of the 2018 iPad Pros (returned them due to the touch error that occurred before iOS 11.3.) NONE had a single bend, I checked each one and none were defective that way.
Do I like Apple... yes and no, I love the iPad and iPhone, but I dislike the MacBooks, crazy cult stuff that occurs here and there, and the high prices... but I'll take a device that may bend but works flawlessly vs anything else (cause anything else actually sucks to use from my experience.) All this is my opinion, take it or throw it.
"The Samsung tablets on display are bent FYI. I can grab a photo and post it here next week if everyone wants."
Yes please, since I've never seen a bent Samsung tablet, and I know their top tablet, the S4, is made of glass, so how could it bend? Break yeah bend no.
"...but no crazy bent iPads (like everyone saying here) that I ever saw of the 2+ years working there"
You sound like the Apple store dude in the film above who said he never heard of an Ipad bending before. Yeah right. The internet belies him and you. What you said about Samsungs too. Do a search for "bent Samsung tablet". You really won't find anything.
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@Kal-037 please stop bombarding us with facts and logic. It is obvious you are a physics-sheep, always on the side of laws of physics no matter how badly they impact the needs of true users and professionals.
It has been decided here that the new iPads are flimsy and fragile, you see. The decision has been made, it’s done. We’re waiting for Apple to make thick, heavy iPads, so we can watch 1000 “Samsung makes lighter tablets that are easier to hold, Apple is doomed” videos on YT and say Apple is no longer innovating. That’s the plan, please stick to it! Remember last year how number one complaint for 12.9” was the weight and size? Well, this year it’s the ability to do spring bar excercises with one! Please keep up!
(Just light-hearted humor, hope no one gets offended)
It has been decided here that the new iPads are flimsy and fragile, you see. The decision has been made, it’s done. We’re waiting for Apple to make thick, heavy iPads, so we can watch 1000 “Samsung makes lighter tablets that are easier to hold, Apple is doomed” videos on YT and say Apple is no longer innovating. That’s the plan, please stick to it! Remember last year how number one complaint for 12.9” was the weight and size? Well, this year it’s the ability to do spring bar excercises with one! Please keep up!
(Just light-hearted humor, hope no one gets offended)
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