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Other iPhone 13 Pro models will be excellent phones to hold on to for a long time

collin_ said:
I usually upgrade my iPhone every year, but I think I’m going to run my iPhone 13 Pro Max into the ground. I hate to use the f-word, but there are a few features that will make these models exceptionally nice and, in some cases, truly “future-proof.”
  • Finally a 120hz display
  • WiFi 6E, the X60 modem, and possibly even Bluetooth 5.2
  • Huge batteries (relatively speaking)
I think these Pro models are going to be really nice, well-rounded phones that have the potential to last a very long time. Next year’s periscope lens is really going to tempt me because it seems super useful, but I think I’ll be able to do without it. I’ve been waiting for a model worth holding on to and this seems to be it. Would be interested to hear you guys’ thoughts on this.
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I don't know.

Every iPhone is expected to be an excellent phone to hold on to for a long time. And at $1,100 and beyond, it better be. And Apple will support the phone with updates for years to come. At the same time, Apple will offer new products with new features to make you feel compelled to replace your current one.

The iPhone 12 Pro Max is already a great phone to hold on to. It has 5G, a beautiful OLED display, a very fast processor, good cameras, and decent battery life.

All you hear about the iPhone 13 (Pro/Max) at this point is speculation. Apple has not yet released the product. It may come with a 120Hz display, which is definitely not a must-have. And a huge battery, which will be drained quicker by the faster display. You may find it is good to keep for several years, but what if Apple releases a brand-new redesigned iPhone 14 next year?

Do not fool yourself. None of the features you listed makes it future-proof. In fact, Apple is working around the clock to create new features to make any existing product obsolete, so consumers will spend more money buying the yet-to-be-released ones.

So, you should either (a) accept that you will trade your phone every year or (b) just buy the phone with the features you feel are most needed and abstain from succumbing to new shiny products. There is no such thing as being objectively future-proof.
 
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collin_ said:
This is actually super easy for me and never involves waking up in the middle of the night. I sit at my desk most of the day and also charge my phone there. I just plug in the phone, go about my business, then eventually hear a little chime and stop the alarm and unplug the phone.
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Fair point, but then in being too worried about Battery Capacity degrading - you have actually artificially decreased it yourself. If you only use up to 75%, then that's even worse than those that are in the 80s......

The whole purpose of a tool is to use it to the max the way it is intended - not limiting use to keep it better. Just my two cents.

Limiting to 75% throughout the charge, then I guess I would be running out of juice in the evening much more often.
 
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collin_ said:
I usually upgrade my iPhone every year, but I think I’m going to run my iPhone 13 Pro Max into the ground. I hate to use the f-word, but there are a few features that will make these models exceptionally nice and, in some cases, truly “future-proof.”
  • Finally a 120hz display
  • WiFi 6E, the X60 modem, and possibly even Bluetooth 5.2
  • Huge batteries (relatively speaking)
I think these Pro models are going to be really nice, well-rounded phones that have the potential to last a very long time. Next year’s periscope lens is really going to tempt me because it seems super useful, but I think I’ll be able to do without it. I’ve been waiting for a model worth holding on to and this seems to be it. Would be interested to hear you guys’ thoughts on this.
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This argument is valid for literally every iPhone releases from the 6s onward.
 
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Fair point, but then in being too worried about Battery Capacity degrading - you have actually artificially decreased it yourself. If you only use up to 75%, then that's even worse than those that are in the 80s......

The whole purpose of a tool is to use it to the max the way it is intended - not limiting use to keep it better. Just my two cents.

Limiting to 75% throughout the charge, then I guess I would be running out of juice in the evening much more often.
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Okay so I see what you mean but running out of juice is just never an issue for me. I’ve owned iPhones since the 4S and can’t remember a single time one of them has actually died on me. So if I don’t really get any tangible benefit from charging higher than 75, I might as well keep the battery in great shape. It helps with resale value. Pretty common for people to put “[x]% BATTERY HEALTH” in the titles of iPhone listings these days.
 
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Ethrem said:
Yep. Case in point, Tapatalk just did it while scrolling.

No device is immune to lag issues because the processors use variable clock speeds depending on the load applied to them. If anything lag will continue to get worse because older ARM chips used a single core type, modern ones use two core types for high and low power tasks, and now there are chips like Snapdragon 888 that actually use three core types, with the load distributed based on performance algorithms and the CPU governor in use.
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What you are talking about is sloppy third party coding. I have some apps like that on my iPhone as well. The CPU/GPU and the screen refresh rate is negligible for most people, as long as the app(s)/website(s) in question has been properly programmed.
 
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Personally, I'm going to wait for the 13S/14 iPhone where they address the possible problems this upcoming generation will have (120hz with battery, different type of speaker above, etc). Even if it means the one after that looks radically different.
 
Will wait for the 2022 iPhone pros myself, all of the above plus periscope, no notch, finally a finger print reader and whatever other incremental upgrades apple adds on.
 
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collin_ said:
It seems that you are conflating refresh rate with “lag.” They are not the same thing, and are not inherently connected. Of course iPhones don’t “need“ it, but it would still be very noticeable and very nice. If iPhones “don’t lag“ (which is true), then 120hz will be even more beneficial as the phone can keep up with the high refresh rate.
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I suppose you are right.

If a phone lags, it is because the processor cannot keep up, not the screen. Why would it stop lagging by doubling the refresh rate?
 
Best iPhone till the next one comes out
How can u say that when you don’t even know if the leaks of the iPhone 13 are true
 
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Ethrem said:
As long as they don’t use the same crappy batteries they used in the 12 series. The fast wear on these is insane. There are some of us who are already close to the 80% mark (fortunately not me, I’m at 93%, but that’s still not great for a device not even a year old).
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Really? That has not been my experience at all. I have a launch day 12 Pro and my battery health is still at 100%. Crazy that some people have batteries that bad...
 
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My XS was traded for a 12 purely because of 5G, maybe a little bit for better battery but it wasn’t actually that bad. Two years I used that phone, could’ve used it for longer and would’ve if I had to save the money.

I don’t see why any of the iPhone since iPhone 5 shouldn’t be used for three years or longer. My dad used his 5 for four years, I know someone who is still using is launch-day 6. Batteries can be replaced.
 
sunapple said:
My XS was traded for a 12 purely because of 5G, maybe a little bit for better battery but it wasn’t actually that bad. Two years I used that phone, could’ve used it for longer and would’ve if I had to save the money.

I don’t see why any of the iPhone since iPhone 5 shouldn’t be used for three years or longer. My dad used his 5 for four years, I know someone who is still using is launch-day 6. Batteries can be replaced.
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5G tech is evolving quickly. 12 will be EOL quicker than 13 and 14 will have the first 5G modem with upgradable firmware and will have the longest mileage as a result.

The carrier aggregation limitations of the X55 modem in the 12 series coupled with the inefficient design that runs hot will shorten the lifespan of these devices.
 
Ethrem said:
5G tech is evolving quickly. 12 will be EOL quicker than 13 and 14 will have the first 5G modem with upgradable firmware and will have the longest mileage as a result.

The carrier aggregation limitations of the X55 modem in the 12 series coupled with the inefficient design that runs hot will shorten the lifespan of these devices.
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Nice 😜 But I don’t assume you mean the phone will become unusable in the near future. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.
 
sunapple said:
Nice But I don’t assume you mean the phone will become unusable in the near future. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.
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Unusable no although heavy use of 5G may cause problems since the heat it puts out is right next to the cameras. When I do a few back to back speed tests on 5G my 12 Pro Max it gets so hot it’s actually uncomfortable to hold and the heat is focused next to the camera and on the side of the phone.
 
The Game 161 said:
Notch will still be here in 2022…might just be a punch hole
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Keep the notch, punch hole, dose not bother me, just don’t give me this 👇🤦‍♂️🤮🤢

Looks like dead pixels or a damaged screen, don’t know what Samsung was thinking. 🤦‍♂️

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TheYayAreaLiving said:
iPhone 14 in 2022 is going to be the game-changer since Apple will be eliminating the notch :) Apple will be bringing the best of the best since competition is getting tough. Just look at the way smartphones are being dominating in China 🇨🇳
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Apple probably wouldn’t name it 14 just at the risk of China not liking that number, superstitious and all.
 
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Ethrem said:
As long as they don’t use the same crappy batteries they used in the 12 series. The fast wear on these is insane. There are some of us who are already close to the 80% mark (fortunately not me, I’m at 93%, but that’s still not great for a device not even a year old).
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Meh. I never obsess about that number. As long as I notice no significant loss of battery performance in real life day to day use, I don't care.
 
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