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Other iPhone 13 Pro models will be excellent phones to hold on to for a long time

usagora said:
Meh. I never obsess about that number. As long as I notice no significant loss of battery performance in real life day to day use, I don't care.
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I have definitely noticed a pretty decent drop but I’m also on iOS 15 betas so that may resolve itself with GM. I hope…
 
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14 is much worse. I’ve never had to regenerate new debit cards for 13 but anything with 4s, I’ve been asked to. Also back when account numbers could be picked (they learned fast) they’ll always choose the 3s and 8s or 2s and 8s.

TheYayAreaLiving said:
Same goes for the number 13 :(

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LFC2020 said:
Not worth upgrading from a 12 pro max.

120hz is useless on a small display.

wifi is already fast enough, 5G is a gimmick so they can sell more phones, no need for it on mobile phones.

Always nice to have a bigger battery, my 12 pro max is good enough when it comes to battery life.

I’ll be keeping my 12 pro max for another year, unless apple has some surprises in store for us.
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Correction: Not worth upgrading, for you.
 
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TheYayAreaLiving said:
iPhone 14 in 2022 is going to be the game-changer since Apple will be eliminating the notch :) Apple will be bringing the best of the best since competition is getting tough. Just look at the way smartphones are being dominating in China 🇨🇳
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It’s gonna be really funny if they keep the notch. Lol
 
TheYayAreaLiving said:
The notch is definitely staying but it’s going to get smaller lol. The notch doesn’t bother me. I think in 2022 that’s when we will see the new design.
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Yah I agree. It’s fine I like how it distinguishes the iPhone from android.

MacRumors so is gonna melt down when they keep any semblance of a notch. I want to see people here ranting about it.
 
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I want no notch, but if Apple reduce notch in 2021, they will at least keep the new notch for 2-3 years in total meaning IMO a no notch iPhone can't happen in late 2022 if they already reduce notch in late 2021. I would like to be wrong but changing yearly screen design is definitely not Apple-like plus it impacts production margin (economy of scale)
 
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If they would pay their engineers as much as they ask for each phone they could’ve been notchless years ago ridiculous how long it’s taking to get rid of this notch
 
It's because they've bet the farm on FaceID and that tech requires a boatload of sensors and transmitters beaming at your face.
If they'd just accept defeat and build a small forehead back on the top of the display to hold all the sensors, the unsightly notch problem would go away.
But they're obviously enamoured with the faux full screen effect the notch provides, so it's extremely unlikely they'll bring a forehead back.
The notch will be here for a long long time.
 
I’ve been thinking about getting new iPhone 13 pro but I have to wait and see what the price are in Australia
 
But one thing is what I’m concerned about the problem is battery are always strained so quickly, hopefully the iphone 13 is going to improvement with last longer battery
 
skaertus said:
I don't know.

Every iPhone is expected to be an excellent phone to hold on to for a long time. And at $1,100 and beyond, it better be. And Apple will support the phone with updates for years to come. At the same time, Apple will offer new products with new features to make you feel compelled to replace your current one.

The iPhone 12 Pro Max is already a great phone to hold on to. It has 5G, a beautiful OLED display, a very fast processor, good cameras, and decent battery life.

All you hear about the iPhone 13 (Pro/Max) at this point is speculation. Apple has not yet released the product. It may come with a 120Hz display, which is definitely not a must-have. And a huge battery, which will be drained quicker by the faster display. You may find it is good to keep for several years, but what if Apple releases a brand-new redesigned iPhone 14 next year?

Do not fool yourself. None of the features you listed makes it future-proof. In fact, Apple is working around the clock to create new features to make any existing product obsolete, so consumers will spend more money buying the yet-to-be-released ones.

So, you should either (a) accept that you will trade your phone every year or (b) just buy the phone with the features you feel are most needed and abstain from succumbing to new shiny products. There is no such thing as being objectively future-prooof.
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collin_ said:
IMO the X60 modem is the first 5G modem actually worthy of commercial use. The ability to use multiple bands of 5G at once seems like a critical feature to me and I’m surprised Apple shipped 5G phones without that ability.
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Hmmm, that sounds more tempting as I find my 12 Pro 5G is quite spotty.

Would this newer 5G modem actually help with reducing the spotty signal ?
 
I just switched from iPhone 12 Pro back to my old iPhone SE(yes, the first gen 2016 version).

It's not fast. The screen is tiny by comparison. Camera is decent but not amazing.

However, my hand has never been so relaxed. I can do 99% of the things with just one thumb. :)
 
The only phone I've ever kept for more than 2 years was the 7 Plus. I held onto that until the 11 Pro Max was released because Apple kept the top tier of storage at 256GB for 3 cycles, and I got a free battery replacement at some point. Very excited to be getting a true 5G phone, MagSafe, and 1TB of storage, but I agree with the OP; it's unclear what bells or whistles Apple could release in the coming years that would make me jump after purchasing the 13 Pro Max.
 
If we take a look to all the rumors and speculations.
IPhone 14 will have three
interesting things.
48 MP camera maybe touch id and 120 hz on all models.
I hope iPhone 14 and ar glasses will come together.
 
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I need my upgrade fix. Put that on a CC with 29.99% interest rate. Count me in!

*shakes*

JK.

I used to upgrade all my tech every year 10 years ago, but eventually if it works just use it.

But for phones, I still upgrade every year.

But for laptops, only when major features are announced....so can't wait for the MBP M1X from my 2018 MBP!
 
As an XS Max owner I felt I wasn't missing out on much with the 11 and 12 apart from better camera but C19 curtailed a lot of travel so it really didn't matter.
I'm gonna grab a 13 Pro Max because I read the notch will still be around next year.
More zoom would be nice and TouchID would be awesome to complement FaceID, but the wife needs a new phone so I'm getting this year's model. I think 2023 is gonna be the notchless, Touch ID mega phone to end all phones.
 
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